anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 92

treetopflyn · 04/08/2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewater921

yea i would like to know where you got it from too ..

Ditto

degibson84 · 04/08/2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

Where did you get it from.
Fish-Street seems to be pretty good about fixing actual problems.
This seems like something they would cover.

well they arent covering it i had to open a paypal dispute and they declined a refund so now i have to wait on paypal to make a ruling

Sacohen · 04/08/2013, 01:35 PM

What was there reason for not covering it?

degibson84 · 04/08/2013, 01:40 PM

they are claiming it is fine and over 3000 pumps that they sent out were all like that and i was the first to claim it was broken. in very horrible english they said

"HI Dan

I have got for your photo, the box is not damage, and it is not damage on the item, no need to worry on it.

thanks
Eric"

and in another email after i said he needs to look at the picture again he said

"HI Dan,

I only can see the box is OK, did not damage on the box, it will not affection on your usage~

thanks
Eric"

degibson84 · 04/08/2013, 01:42 PM

the next email he sent was

"the packaging is ok, mostly it delivery from factory to us already the same, we have send out over 3000pcs is the same case and same box, it is not damage on the box~"

jrp1588 · 04/08/2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

Gimmick? Ever been in the ocean, snorkel/dive a real coral reefs? The wave modes give the closest visual to actually looking at a real coral reef. Is it needed? No Does it look more natural? Yes

I'll take better flow over the look of corals waving any day. I had an MP40 before this for a few years and played with wave mode plenty. The corals didn't react any better to the waves than they did reef crest. The noise was however much more annoying. I also don't really care for how fast corals and nems wave with these sorts of pumps on wave mode. It looks too regular and fake to me. I prefer the randomness of ELSE mode blowing the tentacles around randomly.

treetopflyn · 04/08/2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

I'll take better flow over the look of corals waving any day.

I am getting PLENTY of flow in wave mode with mone WP-40. More than 2 Korilla 750 and 2 Korilla 1400.

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

The corals didn't react any better to the waves than they did reef crest.

Agree but wave looks more natural

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

I also don't really care for how fast corals and nems wave with these sorts of pumps on wave mode. It looks too regular and fake to me. I prefer the randomness of ELSE mode blowing the tentacles around randomly.

Else mode in my tank makes everything look windswept so there is no way I would run it all the time.

Guess it depends on the tank and aquascaping. I am getting PLENTY of flow and a wave action that looks just like what I see when snorkeling shallow reefs. Once I hook it up to my Reef Angel I will be using random AND wave mode randomly though out the day.

bluewater921 · 04/08/2013, 01:54 PM

i know the guy who bought 40 and was selling them on e bay at a good mark up . i saw atleast 10 boxes crushed .. he posted a pic of them on here back on page 65 i think

bluewater921 · 04/08/2013, 01:57 PM

my corals have never looked better in W1 mode with dial between 10 and 11:00 my sohal tang loves playing in the wave it makes .. very happy so far

rrasco · 04/08/2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

Fish-street is pretty fast about shipping.
Mine was pre-ordered 3/22, shipped 3/25 and arrived 3/29.
I have read that other people get stuck getting into the US.

I ordered one on 3/22 as well, still waiting. Mine from 3/25 showed up 3/30 though. Pinged them again this morning to see what they say.

degibson84 · 04/08/2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewater921

i know the guy who bought 40 and was selling them on e bay at a good mark up . i saw atleast 10 boxes crushed .. he posted a pic of them on here back on page 65 i think

i just went from page 65 through to now and didn't see a picture. anyway mine is crushed not just a little bent or anything

jrp1588 · 04/08/2013, 02:07 PM

To each his own I suppose. Now that my tank is bare bottom, it is especially easy to see the difference in flow. Neither mode is powerful enough to keep all the detritus suspended in my tank (which is why I considered a second WP40 for my 75gal) In wave mode, the detritus is sort of scattered all over the tank bottom. In else mode it all collects in one spot.

Most MP40 users don't actually use the pulse mode, which I find kind of funny. I think the most realistic looking setup would be 2 of these pumps on opposite sided of the tank on a controller set to a long pulse anti-sync mode. Then you could have 5 seconds or so in 1 direction, then 5 seconds in the opposite direction. I think this would look cool, but I don't like how short pulse makes stuff wave so quickly. It looks like all the corals are set to a metronome.

bluewater921 · 04/08/2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by degibson84

i just went from page 65 through to now and didn't see a picture. anyway mine is crushed not just a little bent or anything

let me if i can find it for you ..

degibson84 · 04/08/2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewater921

let me if i can find it for you ..

i saw where he ordered the 40 but didn't see any pics unless it was a link to the pic

moatdaddy · 04/08/2013, 02:13 PM

You won't find them. Keep the topic on the product please and I have already discussed my opinion on fish street and jebao warranty issues as well as abysmal customer support.

bluewater921 · 04/08/2013, 02:19 PM

yup RC removed the pix .. sorry it was between 74 and 76

FlyTekk · 04/08/2013, 03:02 PM

Hey all question. I ordered 2 wp40 for my 60x18x26h tank. 120G. It will be barebottom fowlr. No corals at all and actually will depend on flow to get crud off tank bottom into skimmer. My question is will 2 of these be too much flow for fish only with live rock?

Will the fish be injured in any way with 3000+ gph x2 in this tank? I rather not get anything to decrease the output of pump if left on high wont hurt the fish.

moatdaddy · 04/08/2013, 03:04 PM

Not only will they be fine they will more than likely love it. Mine do.

jrp1588 · 04/08/2013, 03:06 PM

I am confident your fish will be fine with 2 of these in a tank that large. I still think I could get away with 2 in my 75gal bare bottom, but I feel like siphoning the crud the collects in a pile in the corner a couple times a week is just as good. If I had all SPS coral or fish only, I would get 2 of these in a heart beat. I'm just not sure my nems and frogspawn would take to it well.

FlyTekk · 04/08/2013, 03:09 PM

Awesome! I worried a clown would swim to near it and not be able to get away from its grasp.

Another question, i will be running on else mode def have no purpose for waves. Is else just a cycle of the different wave modes or is it really like a vortech reefcrest mode?

And will the fish be okay with else mode same as w1 etc.

jrp1588 · 04/08/2013, 03:17 PM

It is similar to the reef crest mode. Reef crest on the MP40 smoothly transitions in a gradient between higher and lower speeds in a random fashion. Else mode on the WP40 also transitions between higher and lower speeds randomly, but it does it in a more...choppy fashion, as in it's not so much of a smooth increase or decrease in speed. It just immediately bumps up or down to the next speed. This makes the noise a bit more noticeable, but it's not bad at all.

Sacohen · 04/08/2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyTekk

Awesome! I worried a clown would swim to near it and not be able to get away from its grasp.

Another question, i will be running on else mode def have no purpose for waves. Is else just a cycle of the different wave modes or is it really like a vortech reefcrest mode?

And will the fish be okay with else mode same as w1 etc.

No my clowns love it. They spend all day on the water treadmill.

FlyTekk · 04/08/2013, 03:20 PM

Wow awesome! Cant wait. Thanks for the help guys!

treetopflyn · 04/08/2013, 03:29 PM

I will be getting a second one for my 105 but they will not be running at the same time. The ONLY reason I want a second is to alternate the flow direction.

From some of the comments on here I am starting to wonder if the flow rate varies from pump to pump like Korillas.
2 running at the same time at max speed ,in my tank, would be like a cross between washing machine and tornado.

slipknottin · 04/08/2013, 04:18 PM

So does hooking one of these up to a controller give you the ability to ramp up and down the speed more slowly and get rid of the sound they make when hooked up to the controller they come with?

04/08/2013, 01:54 PM	#2283
bluewater921 Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: melbourne fla Posts: 605	i know the guy who bought 40 and was selling them on e bay at a good mark up . i saw atleast 10 boxes crushed .. he posted a pic of them on here back on page 65 i think __________________ if i was a fish i would play on the reef & swim in the surf Current Tank Info: 180 in the wall reef

04/08/2013, 01:57 PM	#2284
bluewater921 Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: melbourne fla Posts: 605	my corals have never looked better in W1 mode with dial between 10 and 11:00 my sohal tang loves playing in the wave it makes .. very happy so far __________________ if i was a fish i would play on the reef & swim in the surf Current Tank Info: 180 in the wall reef

04/08/2013, 02:19 PM	#2291
bluewater921 Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: melbourne fla Posts: 605	yup RC removed the pix .. sorry it was between 74 and 76 __________________ if i was a fish i would play on the reef & swim in the surf Current Tank Info: 180 in the wall reef

04/08/2013, 03:29 PM	#2299
treetopflyn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,580	I will be getting a second one for my 105 but they will not be running at the same time. The ONLY reason I want a second is to alternate the flow direction. From some of the comments on here I am starting to wonder if the flow rate varies from pump to pump like Korillas. 2 running at the same time at max speed ,in my tank, would be like a cross between washing machine and tornado. __________________ 105 Gallon Reef Savvy (48"x 24"X 21") Glass Holes overflow, 29G sump, Mag 12 return, Reef Octopus 150, 2- Jebo WP-25s, Phosoban reactor, 2 Ai Sol Blue's controlled by Reef Angle Controller.

04/08/2013, 01:35 PM	#2278
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	What was there reason for not covering it?

04/08/2013, 01:40 PM	#2279
degibson84 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 2,393	they are claiming it is fine and over 3000 pumps that they sent out were all like that and i was the first to claim it was broken. in very horrible english they said "HI Dan I have got for your photo, the box is not damage, and it is not damage on the item, no need to worry on it. thanks Eric" and in another email after i said he needs to look at the picture again he said "HI Dan, I only can see the box is OK, did not damage on the box, it will not affection on your usage~ thanks Eric"

04/08/2013, 01:42 PM	#2280
degibson84 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 2,393	the next email he sent was "the packaging is ok, mostly it delivery from factory to us already the same, we have send out over 3000pcs is the same case and same box, it is not damage on the box~"

04/08/2013, 02:07 PM	#2287
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	To each his own I suppose. Now that my tank is bare bottom, it is especially easy to see the difference in flow. Neither mode is powerful enough to keep all the detritus suspended in my tank (which is why I considered a second WP40 for my 75gal) In wave mode, the detritus is sort of scattered all over the tank bottom. In else mode it all collects in one spot. Most MP40 users don't actually use the pulse mode, which I find kind of funny. I think the most realistic looking setup would be 2 of these pumps on opposite sided of the tank on a controller set to a long pulse anti-sync mode. Then you could have 5 seconds or so in 1 direction, then 5 seconds in the opposite direction. I think this would look cool, but I don't like how short pulse makes stuff wave so quickly. It looks like all the corals are set to a metronome.

04/08/2013, 02:13 PM	#2290
moatdaddy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Panama City beach florida Posts: 848	You won't find them. Keep the topic on the product please and I have already discussed my opinion on fish street and jebao warranty issues as well as abysmal customer support.

04/08/2013, 03:02 PM	#2292
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Hey all question. I ordered 2 wp40 for my 60x18x26h tank. 120G. It will be barebottom fowlr. No corals at all and actually will depend on flow to get crud off tank bottom into skimmer. My question is will 2 of these be too much flow for fish only with live rock? Will the fish be injured in any way with 3000+ gph x2 in this tank? I rather not get anything to decrease the output of pump if left on high wont hurt the fish.

04/08/2013, 03:04 PM	#2293
moatdaddy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Panama City beach florida Posts: 848	Not only will they be fine they will more than likely love it. Mine do.

04/08/2013, 03:06 PM	#2294
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	I am confident your fish will be fine with 2 of these in a tank that large. I still think I could get away with 2 in my 75gal bare bottom, but I feel like siphoning the crud the collects in a pile in the corner a couple times a week is just as good. If I had all SPS coral or fish only, I would get 2 of these in a heart beat. I'm just not sure my nems and frogspawn would take to it well.

04/08/2013, 03:09 PM	#2295
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Awesome! I worried a clown would swim to near it and not be able to get away from its grasp. Another question, i will be running on else mode def have no purpose for waves. Is else just a cycle of the different wave modes or is it really like a vortech reefcrest mode? And will the fish be okay with else mode same as w1 etc.

04/08/2013, 03:17 PM	#2296
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	It is similar to the reef crest mode. Reef crest on the MP40 smoothly transitions in a gradient between higher and lower speeds in a random fashion. Else mode on the WP40 also transitions between higher and lower speeds randomly, but it does it in a more...choppy fashion, as in it's not so much of a smooth increase or decrease in speed. It just immediately bumps up or down to the next speed. This makes the noise a bit more noticeable, but it's not bad at all.

04/08/2013, 03:20 PM	#2298
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Wow awesome! Cant wait. Thanks for the help guys!

04/08/2013, 04:18 PM	#2300
slipknottin Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Britain, CT, USA Posts: 2,445	So does hooking one of these up to a controller give you the ability to ramp up and down the speed more slowly and get rid of the sound they make when hooked up to the controller they come with?