anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 94

rrasco · 04/09/2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

Over $200 for a piece of non-essential equipment is expensive in my book. I'm only 25 and have a ton of student loans. My build is very budget constrained. I'd rather put that $200 into some new coral frags. My tank is so bare right now. I haven't been able to restock since my sand bed caused a soft crash.

One day you'll change your tune. What I once thought was expensive in this hobby ($200), is no longer expensive in my eyes (in this hobby). Not that I have more money, just realize what this hobby really costs.

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Originally Posted by chercm

have any one tried to run 2x WP40 in a 4x2x2 ft tank ?

what mode to use ?

If I ever get my 2nd unit I will. I plan to run them in else mode, well, technically I am going to run a 'reef crest' mode set to a given max intensity.

jrp1588 · 04/09/2013, 08:27 AM

Point is, I've been doing this for 4 years without a controller. I'm not averse to expensive equipment when I see how it will clearly help. I had an mp40 after all. I also had an ati sunpower. I just don't see a controller being necessary for my setup.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 09:24 AM

There are plenty of people who don't use controllers.
It is all personal preference and how much time you have to dedicate to the tank.
I've seen people on the forums who work out on oil platforms and are not home for extended periods of time. they have other (wives, girlfriends, whatever) take care of the tank for them, but can't ask them to do more then feed it and report any major issues so they use a controller to simplify things.

I myself don't use one right now and I'm still trying to decide if I need one.
Yes $200 - $300 is a lot of money, sure you can spend more on the hobby, but I have a 9 year old son with Cerebral Palsy and is confined to a wheelchair, so every spare cent (which is not much) goes to medical needs and therapy for him.

Realistically I can't afford to be in this hobby, but I do it because in my situation I need something to take my mind off of reality.

artkwan · 04/09/2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

Point is, I've been doing this for 4 years without a controller. I'm not averse to expensive equipment when I see how it will clearly help. I had an mp40 after all. I also had an ati sunpower. I just don't see a controller being necessary for my setup.

I can see your point. I ran a 39 gallon corner tank with softies and LPS in my old office for 10 years without major issues, and hardly supplementing anything.

Once I moved to my new office and had a chance to do things I wanted and set up the tank as an in wall setup, I splurged on an Apex controller. Now that I am working on an SPS dominated display tank running an approximate 200 gallons including the sump and refugium, I have found the controller to be extremely helpful with controlling all my lights, pH, pumps, etc. and sending me notifications when parameters are off and it also helps with some amount of adjusting stuff.

As a result, I am not as physically tied to my tank like I used to be, with less maintenance, and I finally took my first 2 week vacation last December. First vacation in 10 years that was longer than 3 days, LOL. Having the controller lets me log on and check things as neccessary with the Apex Dashboard.

So IMHO, is it neccessary, NO, but it is a nice luxury that allows on to have another life, I guess!

Cheers & Happy Reefing!

artkwan · 04/09/2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chercm

have any one tried to run 2x WP40 in a 4x2x2 ft tank ?

what mode to use ?

If you did, both would be in ELSE mode. I only have one in my 4x2x2, but I also have 2 MP40's also that I can't get rid of due to sentimental value, LOL.

hollback · 04/09/2013, 09:34 AM

I'm running 2 Tunze 6105s and one wp40 in a 4x2x2, 120 display and my sand even stays put.

waldoz · 04/09/2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

Realistically I can't afford to be in this hobby, but I do it because in my situation I need something to take my mind off of reality.

Your not the only one in the same boat. My situation is different but still takes my mind of off reality.

Just waiting on the 25 to come out.

rrasco · 04/09/2013, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrp1588

Point is, I've been doing this for 4 years without a controller. I'm not averse to expensive equipment when I see how it will clearly help. I had an mp40 after all. I also had an ati sunpower. I just don't see a controller being necessary for my setup.

Well, if you don't want to use a controller, you don't have to justify it to anyone. If you're are getting along fine without one, more power to you. I work in IT, so I typically try to leverage technology any way I can. I use controllers, most in part because I like building things, and I have microcontrollers laying around everywhere. My current controller doesn't do anything but control my LEDs. That will change when I remodel my reef room though.

Renton777 · 04/09/2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hollback

Good new Apex users!

I was able to successfully ditch the Jebao controller and completely control my wp40 with the RA Jebao connection cable to my Apex. All I had to do was remove the RA connector and rewire it for a ethernet (RJ45 connector). Very simple and now I have complete control! Thanks Roberto for your assistance!

Outstanding work! Thanks for sharing, I will be attempting it in the near future!

jrp1588 · 04/09/2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by artkwan

I can see your point. I ran a 39 gallon corner tank with softies and LPS in my old office for 10 years without major issues, and hardly supplementing anything.

Once I moved to my new office and had a chance to do things I wanted and set up the tank as an in wall setup, I splurged on an Apex controller. Now that I am working on an SPS dominated display tank running an approximate 200 gallons including the sump and refugium, I have found the controller to be extremely helpful with controlling all my lights, pH, pumps, etc. and sending me notifications when parameters are off and it also helps with some amount of adjusting stuff.

As a result, I am not as physically tied to my tank like I used to be, with less maintenance, and I finally took my first 2 week vacation last December. First vacation in 10 years that was longer than 3 days, LOL. Having the controller lets me log on and check things as neccessary with the Apex Dashboard.

So IMHO, is it neccessary, NO, but it is a nice luxury that allows on to have another life, I guess!

Cheers & Happy Reefing!

I have no doubt it would be a nice gadget to have, and I am certainly not against them. It's just a good way down on my priority list. I'd like some new SPS frags first, then I'd like to upgrade my lighting to one of the reef breeders LED units. Right now I have one of the ebay black box LED's with just the white and blue LED's. It works well, but I'd like a more full spectrum. Then my Mustang needs a new front bumper. Also need a new water heater...after all that, maybe I'll invest in a controller...if I find a good deal on a used one. haha

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

I have no doubt it would be a nice gadget to have, and I am certainly not against them. It's just a good way down on my priority list. I'd like some new SPS frags first, then I'd like to upgrade my lighting to one of the reef breeders LED units. Right now I have one of the ebay black box LED's with just the white and blue LED's. It works well, but I'd like a more full spectrum. Then my Mustang needs a new front bumper. Also need a new water heater...after all that, maybe I'll invest in a controller...if I find a good deal on a used one. haha

Oh so a Mustang comes 3rd on the list.
What year is it?

jrp1588 · 04/09/2013, 01:19 PM

It's an '04 Mach 1. I just put a bunch of money into brakes and suspension work, so it gets bumped back on the list for now.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 01:25 PM

Cool, although I prefer the older 65/66 mustangs.
The new "muscle cars" look pretty nice.
The Mustangs, Camaro, Charger and Challenger.
I saw a pretty cool after market conversion of a 2013 Camaro to a TransAm.

jrp1588 · 04/09/2013, 01:27 PM

I like them all, about the only era I don't like for muscle cars is the 80's. Man they made some ugly cars in the 80's.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

I like them all, about the only era I don't like for muscle cars is the 80's. Man they made some ugly cars in the 80's.

AGREED. Sorry, but the 80's mustangs I think were the worst.

FlyTekk · 04/09/2013, 01:58 PM

Mods please move to Ford forum. Thanks.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 02:06 PM

Sorry I forgot that this was part of a bigger thread.

FlyTekk · 04/09/2013, 02:10 PM

Lol. Sorry im anxious to here more about these pumps and testimonials and all im getting are mustang emails. :0)

I couldnt read through all 94 pages. Did anyone have a bad review at all?

88rxna · 04/09/2013, 02:27 PM

I got mine today, so far i like it. No issues of pump cords or anything. I have it in else mode on a 90 gallon. Only thing i can complain about is the water splash into my coast to coast overflow!

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 02:27 PM

I've read all the post and have been following it since I stumbled across it.
As far as I can remember there has not been a bad review of the pump itself.
Every negativity or complaint was about the night sensor or the customer support.
Some people had problems with the US power cords not working (myself included) Fish-Street.com told them to use a PC power cord and refunded $5.

There were several complaints about noise, but it either goes away after a little while or if you move the pump direction slightly it solves it (Apparently it can't be straight on in some units).

A few people complained about the pump not sitting in the cradle fully, but that was very few.

I hope this helps.

It's a good pump and I have no complaints once I got the night sensor working other than customer support.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88rxna

I got mine today, so far i like it. No issues of pump cords or anything. I have it in else mode on a 90 gallon. Only thing i can complain about is the water splash into my coast to coast overflow!

I have the same issue (not on a C2C, but a regular overflow) I was thinking about putting a filter sponge in there to catch it and let it trickle out.
Haven't tried it yet.

FlyTekk · 04/09/2013, 02:30 PM

How did you get the night sensor working?

Im trying to mount them on back glas rotated sideways so there for will not be straight hopefully that will quiet them down. How bout else mode noisE?

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyTekk

How did you get the night sensor working?

Im trying to mount them on back glas rotated sideways so there for will not be straight hopefully that will quiet them down. How bout else mode noisE?

There needs to be some light in the room.
I placed my moonlight LED right next to the sensor, someone else placed the controller right next to the orange switch from a power strip.

From what I have read that placing them on the back glass rotated out should work or they might just quiet down on their own a bit.

FlyTekk · 04/09/2013, 02:47 PM

Back glass as in on center facing one of the corners or corner back glass facing the center?

This is how i was planning on using.

Sacohen · 04/09/2013, 02:56 PM

Either way as long as the pump is not sitting in the cradle pointing straight forward.

04/09/2013, 09:34 AM	#2331
hollback Team RC Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 3,586	I'm running 2 Tunze 6105s and one wp40 in a 4x2x2, 120 display and my sand even stays put. __________________ Jason Μολὼν λαβέ "Dressed up like plankton, sucked in by baleen." Current Tank Info: 40,000 Tablespoons

04/09/2013, 02:27 PM	#2344
88rxna Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ludlow,PA Posts: 605	I got mine today, so far i like it. No issues of pump cords or anything. I have it in else mode on a 90 gallon. Only thing i can complain about is the water splash into my coast to coast overflow! __________________ 90 gallon display, CSC bean animal overflow/30 gallon sump (in basement) SWC 160 skimmer reeflow dart external pump reefkeeper lite a pair of ocean revive S026 led fixtures

04/09/2013, 08:27 AM	#2327
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	Point is, I've been doing this for 4 years without a controller. I'm not averse to expensive equipment when I see how it will clearly help. I had an mp40 after all. I also had an ati sunpower. I just don't see a controller being necessary for my setup.

04/09/2013, 09:24 AM	#2328
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	There are plenty of people who don't use controllers. It is all personal preference and how much time you have to dedicate to the tank. I've seen people on the forums who work out on oil platforms and are not home for extended periods of time. they have other (wives, girlfriends, whatever) take care of the tank for them, but can't ask them to do more then feed it and report any major issues so they use a controller to simplify things. I myself don't use one right now and I'm still trying to decide if I need one. Yes $200 - $300 is a lot of money, sure you can spend more on the hobby, but I have a 9 year old son with Cerebral Palsy and is confined to a wheelchair, so every spare cent (which is not much) goes to medical needs and therapy for him. Realistically I can't afford to be in this hobby, but I do it because in my situation I need something to take my mind off of reality.

04/09/2013, 01:19 PM	#2337
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	It's an '04 Mach 1. I just put a bunch of money into brakes and suspension work, so it gets bumped back on the list for now.

04/09/2013, 01:25 PM	#2338
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	Cool, although I prefer the older 65/66 mustangs. The new "muscle cars" look pretty nice. The Mustangs, Camaro, Charger and Challenger. I saw a pretty cool after market conversion of a 2013 Camaro to a TransAm.

04/09/2013, 01:27 PM	#2339
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	I like them all, about the only era I don't like for muscle cars is the 80's. Man they made some ugly cars in the 80's.

04/09/2013, 01:58 PM	#2341
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Mods please move to Ford forum. Thanks.

04/09/2013, 02:06 PM	#2342
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	Sorry I forgot that this was part of a bigger thread.

04/09/2013, 02:10 PM	#2343
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Lol. Sorry im anxious to here more about these pumps and testimonials and all im getting are mustang emails. :0) I couldnt read through all 94 pages. Did anyone have a bad review at all?

04/09/2013, 02:27 PM	#2345
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	I've read all the post and have been following it since I stumbled across it. As far as I can remember there has not been a bad review of the pump itself. Every negativity or complaint was about the night sensor or the customer support. Some people had problems with the US power cords not working (myself included) Fish-Street.com told them to use a PC power cord and refunded $5. There were several complaints about noise, but it either goes away after a little while or if you move the pump direction slightly it solves it (Apparently it can't be straight on in some units). A few people complained about the pump not sitting in the cradle fully, but that was very few. I hope this helps. It's a good pump and I have no complaints once I got the night sensor working other than customer support.

04/09/2013, 02:30 PM	#2347
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	How did you get the night sensor working? Im trying to mount them on back glas rotated sideways so there for will not be straight hopefully that will quiet them down. How bout else mode noisE?

04/09/2013, 02:47 PM	#2349
FlyTekk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 144	Back glass as in on center facing one of the corners or corner back glass facing the center? This is how i was planning on using.

04/09/2013, 02:56 PM	#2350
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	Either way as long as the pump is not sitting in the cradle pointing straight forward.