Chinese LED Lights - Page 95

Redngold · 02/11/2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bkvreef

Barry, are you using the value or controllable? How many?

I'm sure this was already mentioned but I missed it (or forgot), what is the difference between the evergrow, reef breeder, etc units?
Where would you recommend buying?

reefbreeder and evergrow are the same units. Reefbreeders just gives you a 2 year US warranty.

ReeferSteve78 · 02/11/2013, 09:16 AM

These are my JT2080 over my 125 gallon tank with two center braces and no shadowing. These looks are the best

bhazard451 · 02/11/2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ReeferSteve78

These are my JT2080 over my 125 gallon tank with two center braces and no shadowing. These looks are the best

Your tank setup looks a lot like mine, conduit and all. How are you liking it so far?

ReeferSteve78 · 02/11/2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

Your tank setup looks a lot like mine, conduit and all. How are you liking it so far?

It is conduit pipe and I think it's exactly like yours which that's where I got the idea from so thanks a bunch BHAZARD

I love these lights it's only been up and running since Friday and have no problems so far. I have them about 8 inches off the water and the highest I got for my Channels are in mid day so ch1:40% and ch2:50% for an hour then they ramp back down every hour so my corals don't bleach since I recall you saying 2 corals bleached do too ramping the lights to high. Beside that am waiting for my spare leds to come in because am doing some switching.

Ron Reefman · 02/11/2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferSteve78

These are my JT2080 over my 125 gallon tank with two center braces and no shadowing. These looks are the best

What is the JT mean in a JT2080. I know EG and RB but not JT?

ReeferSteve78 · 02/11/2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

What is the JT mean in a JT2080. I know EG and RB but not JT?

Really Reefman. Not only is he a Reefman but his also a spelling teacher haha..I misspelled it now you no what I was trying to spell. You know keyboards on phones are small so I may do a human error from time to time.....

Ron Reefman · 02/11/2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferSteve78

Really Reefman. Not only is he a Reefman but his also a spelling teacher haha..I misspelled it now you no what I was trying to spell. You know keyboards on phones are small so I may do a human error from time to time.....

I seriously didn't/don't know. There are at least half a dozen factories in China either selling fixtures that are the same or very close to the EG fixtures. Even RB is now rebrading the Evergrow lights as Photons? My assumption was that you were talking about some new player.

I did look at my keyboard and didn't see that JT was close to either EG or RB... I admit I didn't look at my phone, but then my phone keyboard is the same layout as my laptop keyboard. There was no offence intended, I just wanted to know for sure.

ReeferSteve78 · 02/11/2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

I seriously didn't/don't know. There are at least half a dozen factories in China either selling fixtures that are the same or very close to the EG fixtures. Even RB is now rebrading the Evergrow lights as Photons? My assumption was that you were talking about some new player.

I did look at my keyboard and didn't see that JT was close to either EG or RB... I admit I didn't look at my phone, but then my phone keyboard is the same layout as my laptop keyboard. There was no offence intended, I just wanted to know for sure.

No offence intended either but my lights are the IT2080 sorry if I came out as a PITA brcause you did help me out also fir my layout on my ReefBreeder IT2080

blackchicken · 02/11/2013, 07:11 PM

First of all, this is great thread. I read almost all but now Im little confused. I have a tank 2 months old i start it because of crashing my old first reef system. Dimensions is 130x50x65cm depth. I really like this everGrow lights but dont sure which i should use. Tank will be mainly SPS dominated with LPS, clams some soft. I now use my custom canopy with 4x glu T5 2x39w. Bulb is short but i have it, I use it. What do you thing i may use? 2x IT2040 or 3x IT2040 rotated 90 degrees or 4x IT2040 in grid or 2x IT2060? What do you thing? Of course price is important :-) but my stony babies more :-) Another thing is that I'll propably order lights directly from everGrow because Im from europe. But I can find only white and blue pattern. It is possible order full spectrum lights and what pattern you like and which works? Another little question, if I understand it I can connect couple of lights together, one is programed master and another lights are slaves? Or I must program all lights separately and connection is only for power. Thanks a lot and sorry for my questions but I want to do it right.

AKWO_SMALL.jpg

KindCorals · 02/11/2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

Glad to help. I was surprised when I went looking for some helpful image that all the Kelvin color charts stop at 8000K or 10,000K and don't get into the 14K and 20K we always talk about in MH bulb colors. Anybody ever find a good color chart that goes to 20K?

Its really difficult to capture the 'true' colors given off by a bright light but after adjusting the white balance, using a flash and a white background, I think this photo gives a fairly accurate representation of 10K (bright white, natural look), 14K (still bright white but with a slight blue tint and starts to make colors pop) and 20K (bright overall blue color, makes colors pop, maybe not quite as dim looking as this picture).

grandp10 · 02/11/2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by grandp10

I was impressed with par from the it2080. Through air at 29" height the center of the fixture I was getting 450 par. At the edges under the leds I was getting 330.

Wow! Kinda surprised no one commented about the par values. This is better par than a diy competitor with Cree leds, but theirs is in a 18" fixture.

TIGER SHARK · 02/11/2013, 11:45 PM

Anyone know which light this is?

grandp10 · 02/12/2013, 05:45 AM

That looks like the Ledtric.

Ron Reefman · 02/12/2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by blackchicken

Dimensions is 130x50x65cm depth. I really like this everGrow lights but dont sure which i should use. Tank will be mainly SPS dominated with LPS, clams some soft. Another thing is that I'll propably order lights directly from everGrow because Im from europe. But I can find only white and blue pattern. It is possible order full spectrum lights and what pattern you like and which works? Another little question, if I understand it I can connect couple of lights together, one is programed master and another lights are slaves? Or I must program all lights separately and connection is only for power. Thanks a lot and sorry for my questions but I want to do it right.

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Your tank is basically a 4" tank, so I'd go with 2 (or 3) D120's for about $400-$600. But I think one IT2080 will do the job and would only be $500 and have a controller.

My contact at EG is Helen. She treated me very well. Just remember, they are all off until Monday the 18th for Chinese New Years. Her email is:
sales05@evergrowlighting.com

Some IT series fixtures can jumper power but not controller info. The D120 can't do even the power and the D120's also have 2 power cords and the IT series only has one. My IT2040 can jumper power but my IT2080 can't. I don't know if EG has changed the IT2080 yet. If anybody knows, please jump in and let me know.

Ron Reefman · 02/12/2013, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ReeferSteve78

No offence intended either but my lights are the IT2080 sorry if I came out as a PITA brcause you did help me out also for my layout on my ReefBreeder IT2080

No problem. And if you knew how many PM's and emails I get on these....

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Originally Posted by blackchicken

Dimensions is 130x50x65cm depth. I really like this everGrow lights but dont sure which i should use. Tank will be mainly SPS dominated with LPS, clams some soft. What do you thing i may use? 2x IT2040 or 3x IT2040 rotated 90 degrees or 4x IT2040 in grid or 2x IT2060? What do you thing? Another thing is that I'll propably order lights directly from everGrow because Im from europe. But I can find only white and blue pattern. Another little question, if I understand it I can connect couple of lights together, one is programed master and another lights are slaves? Or I must program all lights separately and connection is only for power. Thanks a lot and sorry for my questions but I want to do it right.
Attachment 219843

Your tank is basically a 4" tank, so I'd go with 2 (or 3) D120's for about $400-$600. But I think one IT2080 will do the job and would only be $500 and have a controller.

My contact at EG is Helen. She treated me very well. Just remember, they are all off until Monday the 18th for Chinese New Years. Her email is:
sales05@evergrowlighting.com

Some IT series fixtures can jumper power but not controller info. The D120 can't do even the power and the D120's also have 2 power cords and the IT series only has one. My IT2040 can jumper power but my IT2080 can't. I don't know if EG has changed the IT2080 yet. If anybody knows, please jump in and let me know.

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Originally Posted by KindCorals

Its really difficult to capture the 'true' colors given off by a bright light but after adjusting the white balance, using a flash and a white background, I think this photo gives a fairly accurate representation of 10K (bright white, natural look), 14K (still bright white but with a slight blue tint and starts to make colors pop) and 20K (bright overall blue color, makes colors pop, maybe not quite as dim looking as this picture).

Thanks for the great color shots. Did you do those yourself?

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Originally Posted by grandp10

Wow! Kinda surprised no one commented about the par values. This is better par than a diy competitor with Cree leds, but theirs is in a 18" fixture.

Several of us have already noted that we are seeing better PAR than EcoTech Radion and AI Vega as well as others. With 2 IT2080's I'm getting better PAR than I did with 1050w of MH (3 250W and 2 150W).

grandp10 · 02/12/2013, 11:12 AM

Good point.

KindCorals · 02/12/2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

Thanks for the great color shots. Did you do those yourself?

Yes, it took me quite a while to get the colors to show up and they are still not perfect but I think its fairly close and should give everyone a decent idea of the difference.

Speaking of emails and PM's, did you get mine the other day LOL its bust*******@yahoo.com

Did I read a post where you said EG will have a Cree option available for $50 extra soon?

I wonder how the layouts will change with the Cree LEDs. I know Bhaz has said the blues are more powerful, its basically going to start all over with everyone trying to get the right ratio of RB:W

bhazard451 · 02/12/2013, 06:35 PM

They're not using Crees, and initially they would have only been XP-E XP-G anyway. Not worth it.

KindCorals · 02/12/2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

They're not using Crees, and initially they would have only been XP-E XP-G anyway. Not worth it.

EG has been saying they will have a Cree option after the chinese new year holiday

soul4surfin · 02/12/2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mknightryder

Installed on tank. Lights were 13" above water surface in this pic. I have them at 11" now. If I go any lower there's a "shadow" between the two d-120's because of the 10" wide glass center brace. Crocea on the SB is doing great!

Are you using 90 degree or 120 degree optics?

soul4surfin · 02/12/2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by soul4surfin

Bhaz/All.....What is the lowest you would feel comfortable hanging the 2040's off of the water? I do not want to hang them as I like my canopy. I was thinking of engineering something within the canopy to mount these in...but I do not have a lot of room.

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

Stick them in the canopy but remove the optics.

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Originally Posted by soul4surfin

so 2-3 inches off the water is okay?

Bhaz,just want to be sure prior to purchase. I have a max of 2-3 inches I can put them above the water. With no optics do you feel this would be fine?

Thanks again

bhazard451 · 02/12/2013, 09:56 PM

Yep

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mknightryder · 02/13/2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by soul4surfin

Are you using 90 degree or 120 degree optics?

90 degree optics.

biecacka · 02/14/2013, 09:10 AM

I have the nova a4 led fixtures and I'm curious if anyone would happen to know the footprint these would light on a 24 inch tall tank?
Corey

dirt1008 · 02/14/2013, 05:36 PM

So what do I need exactly for a 55gallon? I'd like to keep everything as far as corals go. I did see that the reef breeders has a 2 year warranty.

02/11/2013, 07:11 PM	#2359
blackchicken Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Prague Posts: 55	First of all, this is great thread. I read almost all but now Im little confused. I have a tank 2 months old i start it because of crashing my old first reef system. Dimensions is 130x50x65cm depth. I really like this everGrow lights but dont sure which i should use. Tank will be mainly SPS dominated with LPS, clams some soft. I now use my custom canopy with 4x glu T5 2x39w. Bulb is short but i have it, I use it. What do you thing i may use? 2x IT2040 or 3x IT2040 rotated 90 degrees or 4x IT2040 in grid or 2x IT2060? What do you thing? Of course price is important :-) but my stony babies more :-) Another thing is that I'll propably order lights directly from everGrow because Im from europe. But I can find only white and blue pattern. It is possible order full spectrum lights and what pattern you like and which works? Another little question, if I understand it I can connect couple of lights together, one is programed master and another lights are slaves? Or I must program all lights separately and connection is only for power. Thanks a lot and sorry for my questions but I want to do it right. AKWO_SMALL.jpg

02/11/2013, 11:45 PM	#2362
TIGER SHARK Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 807	Anyone know which light this is?

02/12/2013, 05:45 AM	#2363
grandp10 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 516	That looks like the Ledtric.

02/12/2013, 11:12 AM	#2366
grandp10 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 516	Good point.

02/12/2013, 06:35 PM	#2368
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	They're not using Crees, and initially they would have only been XP-E XP-G anyway. Not worth it.

02/12/2013, 09:56 PM	#2372
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	Yep Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

02/14/2013, 09:10 AM	#2374
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	I have the nova a4 led fixtures and I'm curious if anyone would happen to know the footprint these would light on a 24 inch tall tank? Corey

02/14/2013, 05:36 PM	#2375
dirt1008 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 98	So what do I need exactly for a 55gallon? I'd like to keep everything as far as corals go. I did see that the reef breeders has a 2 year warranty.