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Unread 08/21/2010, 11:38 PM   #2426
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what about a fairy wrasse or 4 line wrasse in a 56 gallon tank with 2 chromis and a algae blenny?
yes the 4 line is alot more sociable then the six line

The problem with algae blennies is you can run out of algae and they starve


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Unread 08/22/2010, 09:07 PM   #2427
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I have a thirty gallon tank, and I want to get:
2 common clown fish
1 fire fish
1 Scarlet Skunk Shrimp
1 Bumblebee snail
1 Margarita Snail

Though recently I have been thinking about how to start the nitrogen cycle in my tank. I was hoping to do a suggestion in the book I have been reading which says I can use some water from an established tank and some chemical ammonia; unfortunately it seems that the only chemical ammonia available is for cleaning purposes and probably has other chemicals in it. In light of this I have been trying to think of a good starter fish (I was thinking of dropping the Margarita Snail to make room for it). I hoping for something cheap but also hardy. I have noticed that Damselfish are exactly suited for it according to the book and pet solutions.com. The only problem is their aggressiveness, so I thought I would ask here: Will the Damselfish live with the fish I mentioned above? If they do not can someone here give me a fish that will be suitable? Thank you.


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Unread 08/23/2010, 05:04 AM   #2428
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Instead of using a fish to cycle, you can add some uncooked shrimp from the frozen foods section of your grocery store and let it rot. This provides the ammonia source for the cycle and no fish have to endure the process. Additionally, you don't need to worry about getting the damsel out of the tank.


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Unread 08/23/2010, 12:25 PM   #2429
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Thank you for the reply, I will look into that.
Because I was thinking about dropping the Margarita Snail to make room for the starter fish I now have another idea of a fish I would like to add with the others (instead of the Margarita Snail) that is a Green Coral Goby. I found it when I followed one of the forum's sponsor links last night. I also noticed it stays very small so that should not be a problem.


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Unread 08/23/2010, 11:05 PM   #2430
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I need help. I am planning on getting a 60 gallon aquarium kit, which comes with the lighting, filtrations, etc. Here is a link to this aquarium:
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.co...=43307&catid=3
I am planning on starting with a FOWLR aquarium at first and maybe adding some mushrooms in the future. However, before I make my final decision I need to know if these fish/inverts would be ok for a 60 gallon aquarium, or am I wanting to much?

Bicolor Blenny
Blue/Green Reef Chromis x 3
Clown Goby
Firefish
Kaudern's Cardinal x 3
Orchid Dotty Back
Sailfin/Algae Blenny
Mated pair Ocellaris Clownfish
Blue Dot Jawfish

Inverts:
LTA
Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs x 30
Dwarf Blue Reef Hermits x 30
Astrea Turbo Snails x 30
Nassarius Snails x 20
Peppermint Shrimps x 4
Dwarf Colored Feather Dusters x 2
Sand Sifting Sea Star
Blue Tuxedo Pincushion Urchin

Any help is appreciated. I won't be setting up my aquarium for at least 6-7 months, however I just want to get an idea on what I am doing. I have done a lot of research, just need some input. Thanks


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Unread 08/24/2010, 03:12 PM   #2431
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I have a 75g fo tank no sump w/ a ehime can filter currently for fish I have

Clown
Damsel
A third one I can't remember the name of real small and cute it is has thin white body w/ pink fins and stays around bottom of tank

The tank is about a year old my problem is every time I try to add a 4th fish one to two weeks later it is dead I have lost a flame angle blue hippo and most recent a Baby puffer water. Tests are always good even have lfs double check I would like to get another flame but want to know why they die before I do any help would be great


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Unread 08/26/2010, 02:36 PM   #2432
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90 gallon tank with a 20 gal sump. I-Tech 100 skimmer Koralia and Tunze powerheads Nova extreme Pro Lighting 2 inch sand bed with 90 of LR with few caves

Here is the list of fish I wanted to get to start off with let me know if its not a great idea. Maybe a one or two more.

Christmas Wrasse
Foxface Lo
Midas Blenny
2-Zebra Barred Dartfish
4-Blue/Green Reef Chromis


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Unread 08/26/2010, 04:15 PM   #2433
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Gobies & blennies

Can gobies & blennies be kept well in a barebottom reef?


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Unread 08/26/2010, 11:04 PM   #2434
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Totally new to the hobby! I've purchased a 210 gallon tank, and want to start with a fish only tank to start with. The books say to make a "wish list", so these are the fish I want to have:

Lionfish (probably more than one)
Blue Hippo Tang
Panther Grouper
Marine Betta
Emperor Angelfish (I want one of the little ones to see it change, but am afraid that it will be eaten)
Zebra Eel

Will these work together?


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Unread 08/26/2010, 11:09 PM   #2435
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Totally new to the hobby! I've purchased a 210 gallon tank, and want to start with a fish only tank to start with. The books say to make a "wish list", so these are the fish I want to have:

Lionfish (probably more than one)
Blue Hippo Tang
Panther Grouper
Marine Betta
Emperor Angelfish (I want one of the little ones to see it change, but am afraid that it will be eaten)
Zebra Eel

Will these work together?

To Reef Central

First, even with that sized tank, the grouper will get too big (( plus they get, IMO, ugly as they mature.

What type of lionfish?


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Unread 08/26/2010, 11:14 PM   #2436
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To Reef Central

First, even with that sized tank, the grouper will get too big (( plus they get, IMO, ugly as they mature.

What type of lionfish?
Volitan Lionfish

How big would the grouper get?


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Unread 08/26/2010, 11:19 PM   #2437
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I believe some groupers can reach lengths of almost 2 feet.


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Unread 08/27/2010, 05:10 PM   #2438
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I believe some groupers can reach lengths of almost 2 feet.
Yikes! I'm hoping that such a growth rate takes several years....would give me time to get another tank.


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Unread 08/29/2010, 08:45 PM   #2439
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Thank you for the reply, I will look into that.
Because I was thinking about dropping the Margarita Snail to make room for the starter fish I now have another idea of a fish I would like to add with the others (instead of the Margarita Snail) that is a Green Coral Goby. I found it when I followed one of the forum's sponsor links last night. I also noticed it stays very small so that should not be a problem.
I would suggest you add your live rock and let the tank cycle on its own. Keep track of the ammonia and nitrates and in about three weeks it should have cycled

Alternately you can purchase fully cured live rock from someone else's tank and providing you use ro water be ready to add a fish in a day or so.


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Unread 08/29/2010, 08:50 PM   #2440
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I need help. I am planning on getting a 60 gallon aquarium kit, which comes with the lighting, filtrations, etc. Here is a link to this aquarium:
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.co...=43307&catid=3
I am planning on starting with a FOWLR aquarium at first and maybe adding some mushrooms in the future. However, before I make my final decision I need to know if these fish/inverts would be ok for a 60 gallon aquarium, or am I wanting to much?

Bicolor Blenny
Blue/Green Reef Chromis x 3
Clown Goby
Firefish
Kaudern's Cardinal x 3
Orchid Dotty Back
Sailfin/Algae Blenny
Mated pair Ocellaris Clownfish
Blue Dot Jawfish

Inverts:
LTA
Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs x 30
Dwarf Blue Reef Hermits x 30
Astrea Turbo Snails x 30
Nassarius Snails x 20
Peppermint Shrimps x 4
Dwarf Colored Feather Dusters x 2
Sand Sifting Sea Star
Blue Tuxedo Pincushion Urchin

Any help is appreciated. I won't be setting up my aquarium for at least 6-7 months, however I just want to get an idea on what I am doing. I have done a lot of research, just need some input. Thanks
the fish list is great but I would cut down on the clean up crew as follows
lta---not for 4 months
scarlet reef hermits 5
dwarf blue hermits 5
nassarius snails 10
peppermint shrimps 2
nix the sand sifting sea star

When you first establish your tank you are trying to increase the numbers of inverts etc in your sand bed. Hermits and esp the sand sifting star can consume these critters before they can make a sustainable population


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Unread 08/29/2010, 09:31 PM   #2441
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I have a 75g fo tank no sump w/ a ehime can filter currently for fish I have

Clown
Damsel
A third one I can't remember the name of real small and cute it is has thin white body w/ pink fins and stays around bottom of tank

The tank is about a year old my problem is every time I try to add a 4th fish one to two weeks later it is dead I have lost a flame angle blue hippo and most recent a Baby puffer water. Tests are always good even have lfs double check I would like to get another flame but want to know why they die before I do any help would be great
quite possible it is aggression by the damsel


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Can gobies & blennies be kept well in a barebottom reef?
would depend on which gobies and blennies you want to keep


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90 gallon tank with a 20 gal sump. I-Tech 100 skimmer Koralia and Tunze powerheads Nova extreme Pro Lighting 2 inch sand bed with 90 of LR with few caves

Here is the list of fish I wanted to get to start off with let me know if its not a great idea. Maybe a one or two more.

Christmas Wrasse
Foxface Lo
Midas Blenny
2-Zebra Barred Dartfish
4-Blue/Green Reef Chromis
looks good to me


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quite possible it is aggression by the damsel
I was thinking that but have never noticed any aggression from it


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Unread 08/31/2010, 07:13 AM   #2445
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Looking to add a few more reef friendly fish.

75 gallon tank. Currently holds false clown, blue hippo tang, domino damsel, 2 yellow tailed blue damsels.





I also have a snail or two. Looking to add coral and bubble tip anemone in the near future, so I need something reef friendly. Any suggestions on fish and/or coral for a saltwater beginner?


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Unread 08/31/2010, 04:38 PM   #2446
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I will give this a shot, but more in retrospec, I was looking for a link like this early. I think I have gotten carried away and stocked too quickly, and if I have anything that is too much or a set up for trouble, let me know:

Current Fish:

- Flame Angel
- False Perc
- Black Clown
- Hippo
- Powder Brown

Current Inverts:

- Colored Tuxedo
- Anemone
- Orange Dragon Sea Slug
- Cleaner Shrimp
- Pepermint
- Electric Blue Hermits
- Nassarius
- Cerith
- Astrea

Current Coral:

- Branching Frog Spawn
- Acan
- Birdsnest (frag)
- Elegance
- monti cap x 2 (frag)
- torch
- zoo's x5 varieties (frag)
- shrooms x 3 varieties (frag)
- favia
- scroll (frag)
- candy cane (frag)
- white lightning sponge
- hammer (frag)
- Duncan (frag)

My tank is about 4 months old, and most appears to be doing well. I think I am done with corals and inverts and will let it grow out. From a fish perspective would like to find a fish or 2 that pop in and out of the rock work to give additional interest, and potentially a school (anthias or green chromis?) would love to hear suggestions.

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What type of anemone?

IMO, you did stock too much too soon, and still might see some issues --- even more so if your filtration is correct in your sig.

Any "school" would be too much of a bio-load hit -- those 2 tangs (( both of which will get too big for a 48" tank, IMO )) are going to produce large amounts of waste.


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That was what I wAs worried about. The anemone was sold to me as a riteri (sp?) but it has neon green tips and a hot pink foot that it buries in the substrate. I was told the key with them was light, and my par readings are off the chart so was told it would be good. My biggest issue with it is that the clowns don't even seem to know he is in the tank after
month. Is there a reason you called him out? Something in particular to be concerned with?

Couple things to note, my sig is correct as far as my set up. I take my water weekly to the stores for testing and they say my parameters are spot on. My skimmer pulls out the blackest stuff I have seen, which everyone tells me is great. Algae exists but far from a problem compared to most tanks, though wish my coraline ws more agressivE, I have some dark purple, some light purp, and some orange.

Also at this point fish are all small (2") except for the powder at 4".
So now that I am in this situation anything I should do?


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with my 75g tank and after adding my rock it will be man made i am looking to add a few fish.

current stock

False Clown
Purple Firefish
Jevenes damsle
4 red leged hermit crabs

want to get

Dimond Watchman Goby
Orchid Dotyback
Royal Gramma
Black False Clown
Copper Head Butterfly
Green Mandarin Dragonet
Emerald Crab
2 Blue leged Hermit crabs

I am in the process of adding a 20g sump. I also plan on selling the damsle and will not be getting the dragonet untill my rock is set will add a few pounds of live rock to help it along and introduce some copepods.


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That was what I wAs worried about. The anemone was sold to me as a riteri (sp?) but it has neon green tips and a hot pink foot that it buries in the substrate. I was told the key with them was light, and my par readings are off the chart so was told it would be good. My biggest issue with it is that the clowns don't even seem to know he is in the tank after
month. Is there a reason you called him out? Something in particular to be concerned with?

Couple things to note, my sig is correct as far as my set up. I take my water weekly to the stores for testing and they say my parameters are spot on. My skimmer pulls out the blackest stuff I have seen, which everyone tells me is great. Algae exists but far from a problem compared to most tanks, though wish my coraline ws more agressivE, I have some dark purple, some light purp, and some orange.

Also at this point fish are all small (2") except for the powder at 4".
So now that I am in this situation anything I should do?
Would like to see a pick of that anemone -- Ritteris (( H. magnifica )) -- also know as "mags" are rock dwelling anemones, and have never seen a single one in/on the substrate.

The reason I called it out is the poor track record of anemones in new/quickly set up tanks.

Long term, I would get rid of the "hippo" -- the powder I would take out too, but at this point would be happy if the hippo was going to be removed. That would allow you to add more fish to your tank.


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