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fresnohall · 09/01/2010, 09:59 AM

interesting, most I have spoken to told me I was being bold with the powder brown, but the hippo was not a problem. Would love to hear more on your take as I would consider downsizing a tang if I thought it to be a benefit to the rest of the tank.

I will try to post a pic tonight of the anem, he doesn't move much at all and I got him to put his foot down in a generally good area, at first he wanted to go under the rocks, but I feared that light would be a problem.

Beaun · 09/01/2010, 10:16 AM

The hippo is worse beause of how big it can get, by big I mean HUGE. I would sell/trade the two tangs, both really get too big for a 48" tank, and go for a smaller tang like a Kole.

Toddrtrex · 09/01/2010, 11:06 AM

I agree that both get too big, but was being realistic -- didn't think you would be willing to get rid of both, so I picked the lesser of 2 evils -- the hippo get way too big. Many years ago I had a "powder brown/gold rim" ( Acanthurus nigricans ) in my 4 foot 75, it worked great for the first year and a half, but then it was always passing, and became more aggressive and had to be sold.

fresnohall · 09/01/2010, 12:50 PM

Is it a problem if I raise them from their current sizes and sell off when they are ready to go to college? They both appear quite happy at this stage, any leading indicators for when they might be ready for the step up or does size not matter and it would be best to get one (dare I say both) out now? My dream was a powder blue, but I have been told it must remain that way regardless of size until I upgrade the tank.

Good discussion, and like I said, wish I had found this thread earlier. Any other words of advice (outside of me posting the anem pic) on my livestock? How about thoughts on brightly colored fish that play in/on the rock work or sand and would do well in my tank?

Have to admit I still love my cleanup crew because I have to search for certain ones and learn their hiding spots. Would love to have a healthy fish or two that played by the same rules. Was told perhaps a dragon face pipe, or yellow coris wrasse, just looking for options.

Thanks for your help

fresnohall · 09/01/2010, 09:20 PM

Here are a couple of shots, not great but hope they give you an idea Thanks again :

LawmanRob · 09/01/2010, 09:54 PM

Fish list for 75 gallon 20 tall sump skimmer and 250MH I currently have a pair of fire fish. My wish list is as follows Chalk Basslet Royal Gramma, Fridmani pseudochromis,yellow watchman, jawfish ,flame hawk, blue reef chromis, and flasher wrasse (species not yet decided). Also how much fo a bio load would this be and would there be any more room for aditional fish? Tangs are out of the question.

Toddrtrex · 09/01/2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fresnohall

Here are a couple of shots, not great but hope they give you an idea Thanks again :

Would like to see the underside of the oral disc, but it sure looks like an LTA (( M. Doreensis )). When you got it was the underside of the oral disc smooth or did it have "bumps" ?

Ignore the damage to the foot, but did the underside look at all like this one?

fresnohall · 09/02/2010, 10:41 AM

Coloring no, texture yes. It was more translucent than opaque. I thought LTA's were a bit more random as far as tentacle length, mine is pretty uniform across.

Also to note, he put his foot down there on his own, I dug out for him elsewhere but he moved to this spot and dug the couple of inches. Not sure if that means anything, just thought I would mention.

pitmindi · 09/02/2010, 01:15 PM

Hi, my tank has been set up since Jan of 2010. It is 48", 90 gallons with a 25 gallon eco-system refugium with miracle mud, feather caulerpa, 24/7 lighting. My set-up does not have a skimmer. My system has 125 lbs of live rock. I have a 7" DSB and lots of LPS and soft corals - frogspawn, hammer, torch, mushrooms, zoas and a wellso. I have 3 large feather dusters and many small ones, and snails and bristleworms and a pepperment shrimp or two. There aren't any hermits. I have many copepods in refugium and hopefully in the display tank. I have 2 nemo clowns, a mated pair of picturus anthius, and a mandarin I got 3 weeks ago. I want a fish that eats algae and detritus. I cant have any fish that will disturb my sandbed. I am thinking of either a tang (yellow, hippo or atlantic blue) or a rabbitfish or a dwarf angelfish. The tangs might get too large too quickly for my tank and not have enough swimming room since I have so much rock, and a large tang might knock my corals off the rocks, the rabbitfish and angelfish might eat my corals and or my feather duster worms. What 1 fish should I add to my tank????????

ericdamangus · 09/02/2010, 02:25 PM

I recently took over a 4 year old established 48" 75g tank. It is a mixed reef w/ sps, lps and zoos. I have about 75lbs of LR and a G1x for skimmer. When I took over the tank it already had an atlantic blue tang, a brown scopas tang and a scooter blenny. I do know that this is really pushing it for a 75g tank as far as the tangs. I am in the process of trying to give at least one away in my local reef club.

However, I would like to add more fish in the mean time or as soon as I find a new home for one of the tangs.

Do you think I could add a mystery wrasse and a diamond spotted goby to clean up the sand a bit? Also will I have room for any more live stock if I do?

Thanks for your help.

Eric

mjaustin22 · 09/02/2010, 07:41 PM

Im currently cyclying a planned sps dominant 58g oceanic tank with a 27g tall sump. The tank will probably have a swc 160 cone skimmer and I was just starting to think about the fish I would like to have, here is the list I have come up with. Looking for advise on this planned stocking list, thanks in advance.

1. Sunburst Anthias
2. two flasher or fairy wrasse, open to suggestions on which ones
3. two b/w clowns
4. flame Hawk
5. Mystery wrasse

Lynnmw1208 · 09/02/2010, 09:59 PM

I am going to set up a 125g tank soon and I still haven't quite decided exactly what fish I want.

My big question is can you have 2 yellow tangs in that size tank or would it be best to stick with one? I pick the yellow as it stays smaller than some others

some other possible fish are:
yellow jawfish
perc clowns (prob 2)
some kind of wrasse (once I decide, flashers are nice or corris)
green mandarin (once tank is mature)
some kind of blenny
probably firefish
flame angel
some clean up crew (not shrimp tho)
and still undecided for rest

Also I would love to get a smaller lionfish eventually if possible such as fuzzy dwarf or antennata

Toddrtrex · 09/02/2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynnmw1208

I am going to set up a 125g tank soon and I still haven't quite decided exactly what fish I want.

My big question is can you have 2 yellow tangs in that size tank or would it be best to stick with one? I pick the yellow as it stays smaller than some others

some other possible fish are:
yellow jawfish
perc clowns (prob 2)
some kind of wrasse (once I decide, flashers are nice or corris)
green mandarin (once tank is mature)
some kind of blenny
probably firefish
flame angel
some clean up crew (not shrimp tho)
and still undecided for rest

Also I would love to get a smaller lionfish eventually if possible such as fuzzy dwarf or antennata

Odds are good that you would end up with one yellow tang if you started with two, so I would suggest sticking with just one.

Lynnmw1208 · 09/03/2010, 12:16 PM

Would getting another tang hurt? The only thing is I wouldn't want one that gets too much bigger than 8".

Also what about the lionfish? I know it's prob a slim chance but they are so cool!

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynnmw1208

Would getting another tang hurt? The only thing is I wouldn't want one that gets too much bigger than 8".

Also what about the lionfish? I know it's prob a slim chance but they are so cool!

Getting another tang would be fine but I would suggest adding the yellow last

Mimic, kole, and powder blues power blues usually remain about 8 inches.

The lion fish would eat anything that fits into its mouth---your clowns, blennies, wrasses, fire fish, flame angel, jaw fish mandarine---all would be tasty treat for a lion.

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjaustin22

Im currently cyclying a planned sps dominant 58g oceanic tank with a 27g tall sump. The tank will probably have a swc 160 cone skimmer and I was just starting to think about the fish I would like to have, here is the list I have come up with. Looking for advise on this planned stocking list, thanks in advance.

1. Sunburst Anthias
2. two flasher or fairy wrasse, open to suggestions on which ones
3. two b/w clowns
4. flame Hawk
5. Mystery wrasse

that's a good list
other suggestions
bangii and pajama cardinals
fire gobies
yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp pair
bicolour dotty back
foxface
50/50 chance they are not coral eaters----coral beauty or flame angel

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericdamangus

I recently took over a 4 year old established 48" 75g tank. It is a mixed reef w/ sps, lps and zoos. I have about 75lbs of LR and a G1x for skimmer. When I took over the tank it already had an atlantic blue tang, a brown scopas tang and a scooter blenny. I do know that this is really pushing it for a 75g tank as far as the tangs. I am in the process of trying to give at least one away in my local reef club.

However, I would like to add more fish in the mean time or as soon as I find a new home for one of the tangs.

Do you think I could add a mystery wrasse and a diamond spotted goby to clean up the sand a bit? Also will I have room for any more live stock if I do?

Thanks for your help.

Eric

suggest you give the blue tang away as that is a 12 inch fish in the wild.
The scopas is much smaller--8 inches

How big are the tangs right now. If the blue is over 5 inches then I would give it away first before you add more fish.
Having done that you could add:
bangii cardinals--3 or so make a nice school
so do blue green chromies
a couple of clowns
these are all open water swimmers

for the reef--your mystery wrasse and maybe a fairy wrasse
a bicolour dottyback and or a couple of fire gobies

for the substrate--the db goby and a yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp combination

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisd1986

I was thinking that but have never noticed any aggression from it

check it out at night

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Looking to add a few more reef friendly fish.

75 gallon tank. Currently holds false clown, blue hippo tang, domino damsel, 2 yellow tailed blue damsels.

I also have a snail or two. Looking to add coral and bubble tip anemone in the near future, so I need something reef friendly. Any suggestions on fish and/or coral for a saltwater beginner?

that is a very nicely sculptured reef you have

since you have a lot of reef there you could go with:
a coral beauty or flame angel
wrasses---most are compatible with each other except the six line
yellow watchman goby
bicolour dotty back
or you could go predominately a damsel tank since you have alot of them in there now. There are many colourful damsels to chose from.
However selecting damsels limits your choices of more peaceful fish

for anemones---red bubble tip or green bubble tip would do well in there. It is best to place or let the anemone pick a place first before you put other corals in the tank. They do move around until they find a place and then stick there. It is usually a place of high flow and lots of light.
Stick away from completely white anemones as they have lost alot of their host algae and do not survive that long without them.

Beginner corals
leathers
kenya tree
xenia
toadstool mushroom
mushrooms
zoas
colt coral
pipe coral
open brain coral
frog spawn and hammer
torch coral

mjaustin22 · 09/03/2010, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capn_hylinur

that's a good list
other suggestions
bangii and pajama cardinals
fire gobies
yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp pair
bicolour dotty back
foxface
50/50 chance they are not coral eaters----coral beauty or flame angel

A foxface? really? that would be awesome. I wanted to get a tang but thought the tank would be too small. How reef safe are they? thanks again

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresnohall

Is it a problem if I raise them from their current sizes and sell off when they are ready to go to college? They both appear quite happy at this stage, any leading indicators for when they might be ready for the step up or does size not matter and it would be best to get one (dare I say both) out now? My dream was a powder blue, but I have been told it must remain that way regardless of size until I upgrade the tank.

Good discussion, and like I said, wish I had found this thread earlier. Any other words of advice (outside of me posting the anem pic) on my livestock? How about thoughts on brightly colored fish that play in/on the rock work or sand and would do well in my tank?

Have to admit I still love my cleanup crew because I have to search for certain ones and learn their hiding spots. Would love to have a healthy fish or two that played by the same rules. Was told perhaps a dragon face pipe, or yellow coris wrasse, just looking for options.

Thanks for your help

I agree with Todd. If you get rid of the two tangs then the possibilities for more fish are greater. With an 80 gal it looks much better if you have a balanced reef between open water swimmers, reef dwellers and substrate dwellers.
One or two large fish besides it being unhealthy to the fish makes your tank look over bearing or over stocked and not natural and definitely not busy.

For eg
open water swimmers
3 blue green chromies or 3 bangii cardinals
2 clowns

for the reef
1 coral beauty or flame angel
1 fairy wrasse or other wrasse but not a sixline
2 fire gobies
1 bicolour dottyback

for the substrate
1 yellow watchman goby which you can pair up with a pistol shrimp--entertaining to watch
1 scooter blenny

this would give you lots of colour and lots of activity

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjaustin22

A foxface? really? that would be awesome. I wanted to get a tang but thought the tank would be too small. How reef safe are they? thanks again

very reef safe and social with other fish--actually their back dorsal spikes are respected by other fish for how dangerous they are
Make sure you don't accidentally bump them with your hand either---painful sting.
IMO one of the best algae eaters in the tank

LamboBoy · 09/03/2010, 08:33 PM

First let me say that you guys are doing a great job helping people in this forum decide what fish they should get.... Thank you!!

I have a 7" pair of xhatch triggers in my 300 tank and would like to add a pair of 3" bluethroat triggers, would that be ok since they are much smaller and of different color plus both their genus are supposed to be on the less aggressive side.

Aquarist007 · 09/03/2010, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LamboBoy

First let me say that you guys are doing a great job helping people in this forum decide what fish they should get.... Thank you!!

I have a 7" pair of xhatch triggers in my 300 tank and would like to add a pair of 3" bluethroat triggers, would that be ok since they are much smaller and of different color plus both their genus are supposed to be on the less aggressive side.

thank you for the positives
here is a trigger fish compatability chart you might find useful

http://www.fishchannel.com/saltwater...atibility.aspx

smlw · 09/04/2010, 07:41 AM

Hi.

55 gal with 110 AquaClear filtration, 30 lbs live rock and livesand substrate - 3 months old

Current fish:
3 occ. clowns
1 scissortail
1 foxface
6 mexican turbo snails
4 blue leg hermit crabs
1 peppermint shrimp

I am wanting to add:
a dwarf angel - can't decide between flame or coral beauty
a small tang - if possible? - thinking yellow or blue
some type of wrasse - my fav is bird but I know my tank is too small and its not reef compatible, so maybe a fairy wrasse?
skunk cleaner shrimp
and any other fish you think is appropriate? Im looking for vibrant colors.

09/01/2010, 09:59 AM	#2451
fresnohall Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 47	interesting, most I have spoken to told me I was being bold with the powder brown, but the hippo was not a problem. Would love to hear more on your take as I would consider downsizing a tang if I thought it to be a benefit to the rest of the tank. I will try to post a pic tonight of the anem, he doesn't move much at all and I got him to put his foot down in a generally good area, at first he wanted to go under the rocks, but I feared that light would be a problem. __________________ noob and proud of it........ Current Tank Info: 80 gallon 48"x13"x20" 90lbs live rock, Octopus HoB Skimmer, Penguin BioFilter, ATI 4x54 T5 lighting: Livestock - False Perc Clown, Black Clown

09/01/2010, 10:16 AM	#2452
Beaun It's pronounced Bone Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Hampton, NY Posts: 1,967	The hippo is worse beause of how big it can get, by big I mean HUGE. I would sell/trade the two tangs, both really get too big for a 48" tank, and go for a smaller tang like a Kole. __________________ -Tyler "The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." -Eugene Jarvis Current Tank Info: None

09/01/2010, 11:06 AM	#2453
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	I agree that both get too big, but was being realistic -- didn't think you would be willing to get rid of both, so I picked the lesser of 2 evils -- the hippo get way too big. Many years ago I had a "powder brown/gold rim" ( Acanthurus nigricans ) in my 4 foot 75, it worked great for the first year and a half, but then it was always passing, and became more aggressive and had to be sold. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

09/01/2010, 12:50 PM	#2454
fresnohall Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 47	Is it a problem if I raise them from their current sizes and sell off when they are ready to go to college? They both appear quite happy at this stage, any leading indicators for when they might be ready for the step up or does size not matter and it would be best to get one (dare I say both) out now? My dream was a powder blue, but I have been told it must remain that way regardless of size until I upgrade the tank. Good discussion, and like I said, wish I had found this thread earlier. Any other words of advice (outside of me posting the anem pic) on my livestock? How about thoughts on brightly colored fish that play in/on the rock work or sand and would do well in my tank? Have to admit I still love my cleanup crew because I have to search for certain ones and learn their hiding spots. Would love to have a healthy fish or two that played by the same rules. Was told perhaps a dragon face pipe, or yellow coris wrasse, just looking for options. Thanks for your help __________________ noob and proud of it........ Current Tank Info: 80 gallon 48"x13"x20" 90lbs live rock, Octopus HoB Skimmer, Penguin BioFilter, ATI 4x54 T5 lighting: Livestock - False Perc Clown, Black Clown

09/02/2010, 10:41 AM	#2458
fresnohall Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 47	Coloring no, texture yes. It was more translucent than opaque. I thought LTA's were a bit more random as far as tentacle length, mine is pretty uniform across. Also to note, he put his foot down there on his own, I dug out for him elsewhere but he moved to this spot and dug the couple of inches. Not sure if that means anything, just thought I would mention. __________________ noob and proud of it........ Current Tank Info: 80 gallon 48"x13"x20" 90lbs live rock, Octopus HoB Skimmer, Penguin BioFilter, ATI 4x54 T5 lighting: Livestock - False Perc Clown, Black Clown

09/01/2010, 09:54 PM	#2456
LawmanRob SPS Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Knoxville, Tn Posts: 576	Fish list for 75 gallon 20 tall sump skimmer and 250MH I currently have a pair of fire fish. My wish list is as follows Chalk Basslet Royal Gramma, Fridmani pseudochromis,yellow watchman, jawfish ,flame hawk, blue reef chromis, and flasher wrasse (species not yet decided). Also how much fo a bio load would this be and would there be any more room for aditional fish? Tangs are out of the question.

09/02/2010, 01:15 PM	#2459
pitmindi Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 262	Intended Fish Purchase Hi, my tank has been set up since Jan of 2010. It is 48", 90 gallons with a 25 gallon eco-system refugium with miracle mud, feather caulerpa, 24/7 lighting. My set-up does not have a skimmer. My system has 125 lbs of live rock. I have a 7" DSB and lots of LPS and soft corals - frogspawn, hammer, torch, mushrooms, zoas and a wellso. I have 3 large feather dusters and many small ones, and snails and bristleworms and a pepperment shrimp or two. There aren't any hermits. I have many copepods in refugium and hopefully in the display tank. I have 2 nemo clowns, a mated pair of picturus anthius, and a mandarin I got 3 weeks ago. I want a fish that eats algae and detritus. I cant have any fish that will disturb my sandbed. I am thinking of either a tang (yellow, hippo or atlantic blue) or a rabbitfish or a dwarf angelfish. The tangs might get too large too quickly for my tank and not have enough swimming room since I have so much rock, and a large tang might knock my corals off the rocks, the rabbitfish and angelfish might eat my corals and or my feather duster worms. What 1 fish should I add to my tank????????

09/02/2010, 02:25 PM	#2460
ericdamangus Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seneca Falls,NY Posts: 75	I recently took over a 4 year old established 48" 75g tank. It is a mixed reef w/ sps, lps and zoos. I have about 75lbs of LR and a G1x for skimmer. When I took over the tank it already had an atlantic blue tang, a brown scopas tang and a scooter blenny. I do know that this is really pushing it for a 75g tank as far as the tangs. I am in the process of trying to give at least one away in my local reef club. However, I would like to add more fish in the mean time or as soon as I find a new home for one of the tangs. Do you think I could add a mystery wrasse and a diamond spotted goby to clean up the sand a bit? Also will I have room for any more live stock if I do? Thanks for your help. Eric

09/02/2010, 07:41 PM	#2461
mjaustin22 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ft. Collins, Co Posts: 56	Im currently cyclying a planned sps dominant 58g oceanic tank with a 27g tall sump. The tank will probably have a swc 160 cone skimmer and I was just starting to think about the fish I would like to have, here is the list I have come up with. Looking for advise on this planned stocking list, thanks in advance. 1. Sunburst Anthias 2. two flasher or fairy wrasse, open to suggestions on which ones 3. two b/w clowns 4. flame Hawk 5. Mystery wrasse

09/02/2010, 09:59 PM	#2462
Lynnmw1208 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 3,306	I am going to set up a 125g tank soon and I still haven't quite decided exactly what fish I want. My big question is can you have 2 yellow tangs in that size tank or would it be best to stick with one? I pick the yellow as it stays smaller than some others some other possible fish are: yellow jawfish perc clowns (prob 2) some kind of wrasse (once I decide, flashers are nice or corris) green mandarin (once tank is mature) some kind of blenny probably firefish flame angel some clean up crew (not shrimp tho) and still undecided for rest Also I would love to get a smaller lionfish eventually if possible such as fuzzy dwarf or antennata

09/03/2010, 12:16 PM	#2464
Lynnmw1208 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 3,306	Would getting another tang hurt? The only thing is I wouldn't want one that gets too much bigger than 8". Also what about the lionfish? I know it's prob a slim chance but they are so cool!

09/03/2010, 08:33 PM	#2473
LamboBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Delaware Posts: 306	First let me say that you guys are doing a great job helping people in this forum decide what fish they should get.... Thank you!! I have a 7" pair of xhatch triggers in my 300 tank and would like to add a pair of 3" bluethroat triggers, would that be ok since they are much smaller and of different color plus both their genus are supposed to be on the less aggressive side. __________________ 200G (96"x22"x22") FOWLR 135G(72"x24"x24") FOWLR

09/04/2010, 07:41 AM	#2475
smlw Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 11	Hi. 55 gal with 110 AquaClear filtration, 30 lbs live rock and livesand substrate - 3 months old Current fish: 3 occ. clowns 1 scissortail 1 foxface 6 mexican turbo snails 4 blue leg hermit crabs 1 peppermint shrimp I am wanting to add: a dwarf angel - can't decide between flame or coral beauty a small tang - if possible? - thinking yellow or blue some type of wrasse - my fav is bird but I know my tank is too small and its not reef compatible, so maybe a fairy wrasse? skunk cleaner shrimp and any other fish you think is appropriate? Im looking for vibrant colors.