Mono Argentus/Sebae Marine Acclimation

scubaprashant · 07/14/2013, 06:46 AM

I've read about acclimating Mono Argentus & Mono Sebae to full on marine conditions (1.023 SG +). Just wanted to know if anyone on here has done this and if anyone had any tips or insights.

I've read that the Sebaes can be a bit aggressive to each other, but the Argentus are much better in schools.

scubaprashant · 07/15/2013, 08:43 PM

no one?

Dexters Reef · 07/15/2013, 09:58 PM

I've had a full on marine acclimated one for a few years now, model citizen. Here's a video of my sps reef with him in it

I hear that they all can get aggressive towards each other if you have multiples so I just keep one.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...8#post21702438

reefer91 · 07/15/2013, 10:07 PM

One of my friends has always kept them in groups in bigger tanks. Possibly it was due to size, Dexter?

Dexters Reef · 07/15/2013, 10:28 PM

Very possible. However, I have not experimented. I have a 75, which is already on the small side for one. I saw another similar size mono in the store, wanted to get it, but thanks to google and my cell phone, I was able to get in enough research to pass on it.

Went home and read many fw and brackish forums, and further learned about their potential aggressiveness in groups.

For a small school I believe 125+ gallon tanks were being suggested at the time. Not sure on scuba's tank size so I'm not sure how to advise them, but I can say in my experience, one in a 75g tank could do quite well. He even made it through hurricane sandy with 6 days of no power, and 62 degree water by the end of it.

reefer91 · 07/15/2013, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexters Reef

Very possible. However, I have not experimented. I have a 75, which is already on the small side for one. I saw another similar size mono in the store, wanted to get it, but thanks to google and my cell phone, I was able to get in enough research to pass on it.

Went home and read many fw and brackish forums, and further learned about their potential aggressiveness in groups.

For a small school I believe 125+ gallon tanks were being suggested at the time. Not sure on scuba's tank size so I'm not sure how to advise them, but I can say in my experience, one in a 75g tank could do quite well. He even made it through hurricane sandy with 6 days of no power, and 62 degree water by the end of it.

Good incites. Brackish fish likely just have that knack for survival in varied conditions.

scubaprashant · 07/22/2013, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the info. I started my acclimation process on Saturday and have been drip acclimating them with water from my 180G display tank over the last few days. I plan on completing the transition by the end of the week. So far they are doing GREAT and all 3 are eating like pigs!

BTW, I'm doing the Mono Argentus, not the Sebaes which are the ones reported to be aggressive towards each other. I haven't read anything about the Argentus being aggressive. I'll have to do some more digging!

scubaprashant · 07/23/2013, 04:22 PM

Day 4 and SG is up to 1.020. The Monos are still eating like pigs and have colored up very nicely since day 1. I think tomorrow shall be the big day!

IdahoCindy · 07/23/2013, 05:34 PM

Love our Mono. He has been through so much and pulled through. Rocks fell on him causing a bad eye infection and skin abrasion. The eye was so bad I poked a needle in it a few times, releasing pus each time. He survived my "doctoring" with seemingly good vision and small "poke" scars. He was all healed up and back in the DT when his tail started rotting off and was nearly gone and his skin all sloughing off from an infection of his skin. We tried to catch him to put him out of his misery but didn't try too hard because we didn't want to knock over corals in the process. AMAZINGLY this fish is alive and well. Maybe he's not the most colorful fish in the tank but he sure adds flash and has a great personality. We have always considered him to be the "greeter" of the tank when we add a fish. If I had it to do all over, I wouldn't buy this type of fish but now that we have him, we LOVE him like an OLD DOG.

scubaprashant · 07/24/2013, 04:12 PM

Day 5 and SG matches my display of 1.024 so I went ahead and floated them for a little while and introduced them into the tank. My Foxface was NOT happy at first and was chasing the school of Monos around, but what I found to be cool was that 3 or 4 of my reef chromis teamed up with the 3 Mono Argentus and Orange Spot Rabbit Fish and formed a "super-school"! Since the morning, the Foxface (biggest fish in the tank mind you) has calmed down immensely and is coexisting near the school of fish. Also, everyone is eating great still, so I am feeling confident that I did something right in the process

I highly recommend the process to anyone with patience and a setup for the conversion process. They are so active in the aquarium and cost me a whopping $27 for 3 of them at a LFS. They make my 180G tank look very active, so I'm a happy camper all around.

Also, note that this was all done by setting a drip line from my display tank regulated by a cheap gang valve into a big Brute trash can that I use for water changes. To keep things moving, I simply installed my Maxijet 600 in powerhead function with the airline tube connected so that the water in the trash can would be highly oxygenated (I read online that Monos like heavily aerated water). Since on a daily basis, I was taking out about 3-4 gallons of water, no other filtration was necessary.

The End!

kyocera · 02/09/2014, 08:49 AM

Any updates on the monos? Did they survive? Are the in a reef tank or fish only tank?

dfleary · 10/10/2021, 10:41 AM

I know this is a late response to the original post, but thought I'd add my experience to the thread for anyone interested.

I ordered 5 Mono Argentus that were roughly 3" long from Live Aquaria, and they were in water that was at 1.010 SG. I put them in a large bucket with a very small heater and very small power head, and transitioned them to full salt water (1.025 SG) within 36 hours, then transferred them to a 120 gallon FOWLR marine tank. They have been healthy, active, and good eaters from the start.

I later added a 4.5" High Hat (Pareques acuminatus) and a 6" Marine Betta (Calloplesiops altivelis). The Monos didn't (and still don't) pick on either of the new arrivals. They are always schooling, and tend to mind their own business. I'd consider the tank peaceful, and besides looking very elegant, the Monos are *always* out and about and on the move.

Sk8r · 10/10/2021, 05:54 PM

We maintained a brackish tank with monos and scats that were about 3-4" each---big tank. They got along really well.

07/14/2013, 06:46 AM	#1
scubaprashant Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 211	Mono Argentus/Sebae Marine Acclimation I've read about acclimating Mono Argentus & Mono Sebae to full on marine conditions (1.023 SG +). Just wanted to know if anyone on here has done this and if anyone had any tips or insights. I've read that the Sebaes can be a bit aggressive to each other, but the Argentus are much better in schools.

07/15/2013, 09:58 PM	#3
Dexters Reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 730	I've had a full on marine acclimated one for a few years now, model citizen. Here's a video of my sps reef with him in it I hear that they all can get aggressive towards each other if you have multiples so I just keep one. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...8#post21702438 __________________ 75G RR, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S sump, 2x250 MH and 4x54W T5HO, Octopus Diablo XS160, 4" DSB, 2 x MP40wES, 85 lbs LR, 2 x BRS Dosing Pumps, Finnex 300w titanium heater, Surf2 Algae Turf Scrubber

07/15/2013, 10:28 PM	#5
Dexters Reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 730	Very possible. However, I have not experimented. I have a 75, which is already on the small side for one. I saw another similar size mono in the store, wanted to get it, but thanks to google and my cell phone, I was able to get in enough research to pass on it. Went home and read many fw and brackish forums, and further learned about their potential aggressiveness in groups. For a small school I believe 125+ gallon tanks were being suggested at the time. Not sure on scuba's tank size so I'm not sure how to advise them, but I can say in my experience, one in a 75g tank could do quite well. He even made it through hurricane sandy with 6 days of no power, and 62 degree water by the end of it. __________________ 75G RR, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S sump, 2x250 MH and 4x54W T5HO, Octopus Diablo XS160, 4" DSB, 2 x MP40wES, 85 lbs LR, 2 x BRS Dosing Pumps, Finnex 300w titanium heater, Surf2 Algae Turf Scrubber

02/09/2014, 08:49 AM	#11
kyocera Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Conception Bay South Newfoundland Canada Posts: 66	Any updates on the monos? Did they survive? Are the in a reef tank or fish only tank? __________________ Yes great deal only 20 bucks

10/10/2021, 10:41 AM	#12
dfleary Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NC Posts: 205	I know this is a late response to the original post, but thought I'd add my experience to the thread for anyone interested. I ordered 5 Mono Argentus that were roughly 3" long from Live Aquaria, and they were in water that was at 1.010 SG. I put them in a large bucket with a very small heater and very small power head, and transitioned them to full salt water (1.025 SG) within 36 hours, then transferred them to a 120 gallon FOWLR marine tank. They have been healthy, active, and good eaters from the start. I later added a 4.5" High Hat (Pareques acuminatus) and a 6" Marine Betta (Calloplesiops altivelis). The Monos didn't (and still don't) pick on either of the new arrivals. They are always schooling, and tend to mind their own business. I'd consider the tank peaceful, and besides looking very elegant, the Monos are always out and about and on the move. __________________ D. Leary, Smithfield, NC Current Tank Info: 120 Gal. Marine

07/15/2013, 08:43 PM	#2
scubaprashant Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 211	no one?

07/15/2013, 10:07 PM	#4
reefer91 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 277	One of my friends has always kept them in groups in bigger tanks. Possibly it was due to size, Dexter?

07/22/2013, 02:06 PM	#7
scubaprashant Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 211	Thanks for the info. I started my acclimation process on Saturday and have been drip acclimating them with water from my 180G display tank over the last few days. I plan on completing the transition by the end of the week. So far they are doing GREAT and all 3 are eating like pigs! BTW, I'm doing the Mono Argentus, not the Sebaes which are the ones reported to be aggressive towards each other. I haven't read anything about the Argentus being aggressive. I'll have to do some more digging!

07/23/2013, 04:22 PM	#8
scubaprashant Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 211	Day 4 and SG is up to 1.020. The Monos are still eating like pigs and have colored up very nicely since day 1. I think tomorrow shall be the big day!

07/23/2013, 05:34 PM	#9
IdahoCindy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Sun Valley Idaho Posts: 329	Love our Mono. He has been through so much and pulled through. Rocks fell on him causing a bad eye infection and skin abrasion. The eye was so bad I poked a needle in it a few times, releasing pus each time. He survived my "doctoring" with seemingly good vision and small "poke" scars. He was all healed up and back in the DT when his tail started rotting off and was nearly gone and his skin all sloughing off from an infection of his skin. We tried to catch him to put him out of his misery but didn't try too hard because we didn't want to knock over corals in the process. AMAZINGLY this fish is alive and well. Maybe he's not the most colorful fish in the tank but he sure adds flash and has a great personality. We have always considered him to be the "greeter" of the tank when we add a fish. If I had it to do all over, I wouldn't buy this type of fish but now that we have him, we LOVE him like an OLD DOG.

07/24/2013, 04:12 PM	#10
scubaprashant Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 211	Day 5 and SG matches my display of 1.024 so I went ahead and floated them for a little while and introduced them into the tank. My Foxface was NOT happy at first and was chasing the school of Monos around, but what I found to be cool was that 3 or 4 of my reef chromis teamed up with the 3 Mono Argentus and Orange Spot Rabbit Fish and formed a "super-school"! Since the morning, the Foxface (biggest fish in the tank mind you) has calmed down immensely and is coexisting near the school of fish. Also, everyone is eating great still, so I am feeling confident that I did something right in the process I highly recommend the process to anyone with patience and a setup for the conversion process. They are so active in the aquarium and cost me a whopping $27 for 3 of them at a LFS. They make my 180G tank look very active, so I'm a happy camper all around. Also, note that this was all done by setting a drip line from my display tank regulated by a cheap gang valve into a big Brute trash can that I use for water changes. To keep things moving, I simply installed my Maxijet 600 in powerhead function with the airline tube connected so that the water in the trash can would be highly oxygenated (I read online that Monos like heavily aerated water). Since on a daily basis, I was taking out about 3-4 gallons of water, no other filtration was necessary. The End!

10/10/2021, 05:54 PM	#13
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	We maintained a brackish tank with monos and scats that were about 3-4" each---big tank. They got along really well. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.