Read this before posting here again

Anemone · 11/18/2004, 12:01 PM

Recently I have had to remind people repeatedly against posting sales and trade requests in this and other specialty forums.

This forum is not the sales or trades forum. If you are interested in a coral that someone else has, contact them in private.

From this point on, all posts requesting sales or trade information (or asking to be put on a frag list) will be removed without notification. Posts mentioning that they have frags available or will soon have frags available will also be removed. Basically, don't ask, don't tell.

Repeat offenders will be warned. If the warning doesn't work, the poster will lose their posting privileges.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Kevin
RC Staff

BlueCorn · 05/19/2005, 11:10 AM

Over the last few months, we've been watching a disturbing pattern take place in this forum.

It usually starts like this:

Someone, who amazingly enough, has coral for sale starts a "post pictures of XX" thread. Their friends post about how great the corals look and pretty soon the orders start flying in via PM. Anyone who comments negatively about prices, colors or anything else is ganged up on, and labeled "a hater."

It's been stated many times, in this forum as well as the rest of the board, that Reef Central is all about the non-commericial spreading of information to promote this hobby. It's not just a saying, it's a truth that I and the rest of the RC staff are very passionate about. Up until now, the tone of this forum has been sculpted and shaped by those hoping to turn a profit; it stops now.

The argument that we often hear when discussing commercial posts is:

"I/We are just a person(s) selling frags, I don't have a store." To clear up some misconceptions, here are some things that we consider to be commercial.

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A commercial thread is one with the aim of producing a profit. No matter how insignificant this profit is, if that is the goal, then it is commercial. Even if the member ends up losing money, it is still considered commercial.

It is not commercial when a contributing member sells corals harvested from her/his own aquarium as long as they dont blatantly solicit buyers and the posts are confined to the "Selling" Forums. Harvested from his/her aquarium infers that the original colony was not purchased with intent to resell.

It is commercial when a member orders a box of corals from a wholesaler with the purpose of reselling such corals.

It is commercial when a store or online seller portrays itself as an individual member to sell corals or dry goods.

It is not commercial when a hobbyist posts items on sale regarding a certain LFS/online store....however, it is commercial if that hobbyist is in any way related to said LFS/online store.

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This forum is for the discussion of LPS coral. It is for questions regarding husbandry, propagation and identification. It is not a forum for your storefront. It is not a forum to shill for your friend's,spouse's, significant other's coral business.

Posts by commercial entities "just showing beautiful colors" in this forum will no longer be tolerated. In some cases warnings will be given, in other cases posting privileges will be revoked. If you don't think we know who you are, give it a try.

If as a non-commercial participant of this forum you receive unsolicited email or PM offers to sell you corals or other livestock please forward the PM to any moderator.

The cycle ends now.

BlueCorn · 05/19/2005, 11:13 AM

Several thread where closed as a result of this thread. Please feel free to create new ones within the guidelines mentioned here.

Cheers

billsreef · 11/17/2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beerguy
Posts by commercial entities "just showing beautiful colors" in this forum will no longer be tolerated. In some cases warnings will be given, in other cases posting privileges will be revoked. If you don't think we know who you are, give it a try.

BTW this means that if your commercial, don't post any pictures. It's become all too common for commercial entities to post pictures of corals that are also for sale on their websites, this is commercial posting and a clear violation of the User Agreement. So if your commercial and value your posting privileges here, don't abuse them.

geo · 12/11/2008, 03:18 PM

11/18/2004, 12:01 PM	#1
Anemone Cloning Around Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Valencia, California Posts: 25,267	Sale/Trade Requests Recently I have had to remind people repeatedly against posting sales and trade requests in this and other specialty forums. This forum is not the sales or trades forum. If you are interested in a coral that someone else has, contact them in private. From this point on, all posts requesting sales or trade information (or asking to be put on a frag list) will be removed without notification. Posts mentioning that they have frags available or will soon have frags available will also be removed. Basically, don't ask, don't tell. Repeat offenders will be warned. If the warning doesn't work, the poster will lose their posting privileges. Thank you for your cooperation. Kevin RC Staff

05/19/2005, 11:10 AM	#2
BlueCorn Retired Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,908	Read this before posting here again Over the last few months, we've been watching a disturbing pattern take place in this forum. It usually starts like this: Someone, who amazingly enough, has coral for sale starts a "post pictures of XX" thread. Their friends post about how great the corals look and pretty soon the orders start flying in via PM. Anyone who comments negatively about prices, colors or anything else is ganged up on, and labeled "a hater." It's been stated many times, in this forum as well as the rest of the board, that Reef Central is all about the non-commericial spreading of information to promote this hobby. It's not just a saying, it's a truth that I and the rest of the RC staff are very passionate about. Up until now, the tone of this forum has been sculpted and shaped by those hoping to turn a profit; it stops now. The argument that we often hear when discussing commercial posts is: "I/We are just a person(s) selling frags, I don't have a store." To clear up some misconceptions, here are some things that we consider to be commercial. -- A commercial thread is one with the aim of producing a profit. No matter how insignificant this profit is, if that is the goal, then it is commercial. Even if the member ends up losing money, it is still considered commercial. It is not commercial when a contributing member sells corals harvested from her/his own aquarium as long as they dont blatantly solicit buyers and the posts are confined to the "Selling" Forums. Harvested from his/her aquarium infers that the original colony was not purchased with intent to resell. It is commercial when a member orders a box of corals from a wholesaler with the purpose of reselling such corals. It is commercial when a store or online seller portrays itself as an individual member to sell corals or dry goods. It is not commercial when a hobbyist posts items on sale regarding a certain LFS/online store....however, it is commercial if that hobbyist is in any way related to said LFS/online store. -- This forum is for the discussion of LPS coral. It is for questions regarding husbandry, propagation and identification. It is not a forum for your storefront. It is not a forum to shill for your friend's,spouse's, significant other's coral business. Posts by commercial entities "just showing beautiful colors" in this forum will no longer be tolerated. In some cases warnings will be given, in other cases posting privileges will be revoked. If you don't think we know who you are, give it a try. If as a non-commercial participant of this forum you receive unsolicited email or PM offers to sell you corals or other livestock please forward the PM to any moderator. The cycle ends now. __________________ Doug [I]Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made when establishing tonal relationships. ~ Ansel Adams[/I]

05/19/2005, 11:13 AM	#3
BlueCorn Retired Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,908	Several thread where closed as a result of this thread. Please feel free to create new ones within the guidelines mentioned here. Cheers __________________ Doug [I]Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made when establishing tonal relationships. ~ Ansel Adams[/I]

12/11/2008, 03:18 PM	#5
geo RC Mod Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. George Island, FL Posts: 19,512	__________________ I'm sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.