flow overkill?

findgnemo · 06/25/2007, 06:30 PM

i was wondering right now i have a seio powerhead m820. if i got another one would that be kill overflow?

afelder · 06/25/2007, 06:55 PM

Really depends on what you want to keep. For LPS you are good at the 27X turnover you have for SPS you would be considered on the low end. I like to run about 50x turnover in my tank and I have a softie only reef. Although I will be adding SPS to my new tank once it is all set up.

sir_dudeguy · 06/25/2007, 07:09 PM

what tank? 55 or 20? Other than that, pretty much what afelder said

Chago09 · 06/25/2007, 08:03 PM

wow 50x LOL I am currently setting up a 50 gallon and was planning on having 36x and was afraid I would have too much... I guess not LOL

drummereef · 06/25/2007, 08:06 PM

I have a little over 30x turnover in my 40g and keep softies, lps, and sps if that helps.

afelder · 06/25/2007, 08:21 PM

The funny thing is i have some friends who talk about how they think 50X is way too little, but I like my DSB.

vls4330 · 06/25/2007, 09:40 PM

when you say 50x turnover how can i check to see how much turover i have . i would like to add more flow to my tank

deklin · 06/25/2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by vls4330
when you say 50x turnover how can i check to see how much turover i have . i would like to add more flow to my tank

Add up the gph rating of all your powerheads that you have running in your tank and also include gph coming through your return from your sump. Then divide that by the gallons your tank holds to give you the number of times that your water volume is "turned over" per hour.

deklin · 06/25/2007, 09:47 PM

It's tough to do any more than 50x with a sand bed. I have a BB though and am running about 65x. SPS focused tank but have a few LPS and softies as well.

findgnemo · 06/25/2007, 10:21 PM

ya i def. saw the mag pump box and it's at 950 gph then i have the seio at 820. what i'm wondering is. i want to keep zoas, mushrooms, and other items later on. do i need to be at the 47x? and i have a sandbed. i don't want a sandstorm and i don't want to blow my fish every which way lol. i see they are like blowing in the breeze now lol it's pretty funny.

vls4330 · 06/25/2007, 10:24 PM

thanks!!

afelder · 06/25/2007, 10:29 PM

You don't need to be at that level of flow. I have found that my corals enjoy the higher flow. Your actually probably only getting about 750-800 gph out of the mag 9.5 because it has to pump against gravity to return the water to your tank.

findgnemo · 06/25/2007, 10:30 PM

so it won't hurt the corals i get with too much flow or the fish or the sandbed right? lol (i'm just waiting for the yes and i'm going to click on order seio lol)

afelder · 06/25/2007, 10:39 PM

Direct flow on LPS can damage them but as long as the flow is broad you should be fine. In a 4' tank 1 seio an each side of the tank should do pretty well.

findgnemo · 06/25/2007, 10:49 PM

oh ya i aim mine off the front glass and that's one one side i will get another one to do it on the other side

06/25/2007, 06:30 PM	#1
findgnemo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: florida Posts: 375	flow overkill? i was wondering right now i have a seio powerhead m820. if i got another one would that be kill overflow? __________________ 55g 38lbs of lr fowlr 20g fo fishes 20g - 1 ocellaris clown 55g - 2 maroon clowns, 1 hermit crabs, 1 firefish, 1 diamond watch goby more to come

06/25/2007, 06:55 PM	#2
afelder Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 1,160	Really depends on what you want to keep. For LPS you are good at the 27X turnover you have for SPS you would be considered on the low end. I like to run about 50x turnover in my tank and I have a softie only reef. Although I will be adding SPS to my new tank once it is all set up. __________________ Thought For The Day.... "In the Torah it says "love thy neighbor as thy self". The Buddha says there is no "self". So maybe you are off the hook." All animals are created equal some are more equal than others.~Orwell Current Tank Info: NEW 70 gallon rr with a 25 gallon sump Bermuda 3-C that skims rings around a RS80 and 2 koralia 4 & 2 tunze 6045 eheim 1262 return 6x39 watt t-5

06/25/2007, 07:09 PM	#3
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	what tank? 55 or 20? Other than that, pretty much what afelder said __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

06/25/2007, 08:03 PM	#4
Chago09 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Georgetown Posts: 1,132	wow 50x LOL I am currently setting up a 50 gallon and was planning on having 36x and was afraid I would have too much... I guess not LOL __________________ Currently no tank!

06/25/2007, 08:06 PM	#5
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	I have a little over 30x turnover in my 40g and keep softies, lps, and sps if that helps. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

06/25/2007, 08:21 PM	#6
afelder Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 1,160	The funny thing is i have some friends who talk about how they think 50X is way too little, but I like my DSB. __________________ Thought For The Day.... "In the Torah it says "love thy neighbor as thy self". The Buddha says there is no "self". So maybe you are off the hook." All animals are created equal some are more equal than others.~Orwell Current Tank Info: NEW 70 gallon rr with a 25 gallon sump Bermuda 3-C that skims rings around a RS80 and 2 koralia 4 & 2 tunze 6045 eheim 1262 return 6x39 watt t-5

06/25/2007, 09:40 PM	#7
vls4330 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	when you say 50x turnover how can i check to see how much turover i have . i would like to add more flow to my tank

06/25/2007, 09:47 PM	#9
deklin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Superior, Colorado Posts: 456	It's tough to do any more than 50x with a sand bed. I have a BB though and am running about 65x. SPS focused tank but have a few LPS and softies as well.

06/25/2007, 10:21 PM	#10
findgnemo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: florida Posts: 375	ya i def. saw the mag pump box and it's at 950 gph then i have the seio at 820. what i'm wondering is. i want to keep zoas, mushrooms, and other items later on. do i need to be at the 47x? and i have a sandbed. i don't want a sandstorm and i don't want to blow my fish every which way lol. i see they are like blowing in the breeze now lol it's pretty funny. __________________ 55g 38lbs of lr fowlr 20g fo fishes 20g - 1 ocellaris clown 55g - 2 maroon clowns, 1 hermit crabs, 1 firefish, 1 diamond watch goby more to come

06/25/2007, 10:24 PM	#11
vls4330 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	thanks!!

06/25/2007, 10:29 PM	#12
afelder Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 1,160	You don't need to be at that level of flow. I have found that my corals enjoy the higher flow. Your actually probably only getting about 750-800 gph out of the mag 9.5 because it has to pump against gravity to return the water to your tank. __________________ Thought For The Day.... "In the Torah it says "love thy neighbor as thy self". The Buddha says there is no "self". So maybe you are off the hook." All animals are created equal some are more equal than others.~Orwell Current Tank Info: NEW 70 gallon rr with a 25 gallon sump Bermuda 3-C that skims rings around a RS80 and 2 koralia 4 & 2 tunze 6045 eheim 1262 return 6x39 watt t-5

06/25/2007, 10:30 PM	#13
findgnemo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: florida Posts: 375	so it won't hurt the corals i get with too much flow or the fish or the sandbed right? lol (i'm just waiting for the yes and i'm going to click on order seio lol) __________________ 55g 38lbs of lr fowlr 20g fo fishes 20g - 1 ocellaris clown 55g - 2 maroon clowns, 1 hermit crabs, 1 firefish, 1 diamond watch goby more to come

06/25/2007, 10:39 PM	#14
afelder Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 1,160	Direct flow on LPS can damage them but as long as the flow is broad you should be fine. In a 4' tank 1 seio an each side of the tank should do pretty well. __________________ Thought For The Day.... "In the Torah it says "love thy neighbor as thy self". The Buddha says there is no "self". So maybe you are off the hook." All animals are created equal some are more equal than others.~Orwell Current Tank Info: NEW 70 gallon rr with a 25 gallon sump Bermuda 3-C that skims rings around a RS80 and 2 koralia 4 & 2 tunze 6045 eheim 1262 return 6x39 watt t-5

06/25/2007, 10:49 PM	#15
findgnemo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: florida Posts: 375	oh ya i aim mine off the front glass and that's one one side i will get another one to do it on the other side __________________ 55g 38lbs of lr fowlr 20g fo fishes 20g - 1 ocellaris clown 55g - 2 maroon clowns, 1 hermit crabs, 1 firefish, 1 diamond watch goby more to come