Emergency!!!! - Stung By Rabbitfish

[virginiadiver69]

Originally posted by WinnipegDragon
Again, I work in Healthcare, this is first-hand knowledge, not something I read on a website somewhere.

Does this mean you are a government employee?

Originally posted by WinnipegDragon
There are lots of other reasons to move to the US. We are strictly talking about Healthcare here.

As far as information, mostly WHO reports, but here you go:

US 2nd highest infant mortality rate in the modern world only behind Latvia:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/paren...dex/index.html

And average life expectancy form the WHO (3 years less than Canada):
http://www.who.int/whosis/database/c...nguage=english

Good reads but it looks like there are many factors including education, socioeconomic, race and marital status that contribute to infant mortality rate.
As far as life expectancy goes...three years? This is what you are squawking about? It looks like we are both doing pretty good.

Originally posted by WinnipegDragon

Is that why they have the highest infant mortality rates and among the lowest life expectancy?

Among the lowest life expectancy? Are you sure? your WHO chart of the western hemisphere had the U.S. ranked fourth. Might this be a case of a little hyperbole on your part?
P.S. I would rather die earlier than live in Cuba or Canada.

[WinnipegDragon]

Does this mean you are a government employee?

Yup. The branch I work for is actually a provincial initiative, so I work for the Government of Manitoba although most healthcare is federally funded.

However, my family is almost all in Healthcare. My mother in law is a Biochemistry Charge Technologist at the largest Biochem lab in the province (also a gov't job) and my wife is the Director of Quality Assurance and Regulatory Affairs at her Biomechanical company (private industry). You'd get the same answer form any of us.

Good reads but it looks like there are many factors including education, socioeconomic, race and marital status that contribute to infant mortality rate.

Of course there is, but as the richest country in the world, you don't find this at all concerning?

As far as life expectancy goes...three years? This is what you are squawking about? It looks like we are both doing pretty good.

The US is far ahead of many countries, certainly. But you are behind two of your closest neighbours, both of whom are poorer, and have socialized healthcare.

Among the lowest life expectancy? Are you sure? your WHO chart of the western hemisphere had the U.S. ranked fourth. Might this be a case of a little hyperbole on your part?

I've seen other numbers elsewhere, but they may have been older. I hadn't seen those particular WHO numbers before finding them right now, and I would accept them as most accurate in many cases anyhow. I wouldn't start throwing accusations of hyperbole around though. Look at your own 'ALL medical advances' comment for a prime example of that

P.S. I would rather die earlier than live in Cuba or Canada.

You don't know what you are missing

[seabrookian]

I started reading this thread last night for the emergency, and I am happy to hear that your husband is feeling better. I'm not sure what I would have done in a similar situation, but I'm certainly glad to see such a wonderful response from the RC community.

Now... as to the current political thread, much of the nationalized versus privatization arguments, I think, boils down to the question: Is healthcare a fundamental human right?

I think the answer means...
Yes = socialize medicine
No = privatized medicine

[virginiadiver69]

Originally posted by jacmyoung
The system you and I support is one which we pride of ourselves as market driven yet broken in many ways.

Well...it does not sound like you and I have much to disagree about so....I'm going to do a little tank maintenance. This discussion has gotten a little to dull for me anyway. Besides in the end it does not really matter what we think...the politicians will do whatever they need to do to corral more power and there are plenty of useful idiots that will go along with it.
I fear the days of personal responsibility and self assurance are behind us. Bring on the nanny state!

[WinnipegDragon]

I fear the days of personal responsibility and self assurance are behind us. Bring on the nanny state!

Yes, it's everyone's personal responsibility to have several hundred thousand dollars saved if they get cancer

Actually, wait... They should have known better than to go get cancer in the first place, right?

[reefallen]

Ok guys... I appreciate everyone's help dealing with my husband's emergency situation with the Rabbitfish sting. However, this thread is WAY off track.

If you would like to continue your healthcare rantings, please make your own thread. I would like this thread to be available for someone else's situation if it should happen to them.

If my husband were to ever get stung by the Rabbitfish again, according to the drs and Poison Control, it could be fatal (for him). He apparantly is allergic to the venom and combined with his already damaged ANS, it it extrememly dangerous for him.

Thank you for respecting my wishes. I really do appreciate RC!!!

[Peter Eichler]

Originally posted by reefallen


If my husband were to ever get stung by the Rabbitfish again, according to the drs and Poison Control, it could be fatal (for him). He apparantly is allergic to the venom and combined with his already damaged ANS, it it extrememly dangerous for him.

Since he never went to the doctor and we don't know how severe his reaction was in the first place how would they know that?

[steve the plumb]

I just left the hospital funny how I posted in this thread.My wife is still waiting and I was there for 5 hours and they told her it would be a long wait.I will go pick her up later.She still hasn't seen a Doc and the pain is getting worse.I do know this, free doesn't make it better.I know for a fact here in Montreal if you want an MRI done you have to wait 6 months or pay $600 to get it done private witch you can get it done in a week max 2 weeks.Some people do pay because sometimes the wait can cause you harm.I am in a big city(6 million) so its not like I live in a small town.I have watched my father die from cancer while sleeping in a bed in the hall of a major hospital for 2 days before he could get a room(not a private room just a regular one) its the getting into the hospital that can take long.If I had a choice I would rather pay less taxes and have a private insurance.My father also died from mis diagnosis,guess what in Canada you can't sue.You can try but good luck getting a dime or getting someone to admit that they did something wrong or made a mistake.The docs cover each other.

[BrianD]

One more post debating socialized medicine earns the member a loss of posting privileges. It infuriates me that a thread as serious as this one has been derailed by those with agendas.

[RevHtree]

Amen Brian!!

Glad that everything is ok now.

[steve the plumb]

I have no agenda I am glad that her husband is fine.I can also see why he doesn't want to go to the hospital.If anything I hate hospitals myself and I dread going to them.I can't blame her husband for not wanting to go.If I made anyone angry by posting just have someone erase it. I Never wanted to anger anyone its just that people (like myself) don't like going to the hospital.Some people have the fear of going.I would give the fish to someone else.Its to bad a fish caused her husband so many problems.I never meant to sway away from the thread.I don't know enough about rabbit fish at least I did learn something of value.Its to bad someone got hurt from this