traveling on an airplane with fish?

Just Jim · 06/13/2007, 01:37 PM

I'm going on vacation soon (florida) and was wondering if I were to see something down there in a lfs that I liked, would it be possible to bring it back with me? Don't know what the flight rules are....

650-IS350 · 06/13/2007, 01:41 PM

Can't now a days with the " NO/little liquid " rule

nyvp · 06/13/2007, 01:56 PM

why couldnt you pack it in a cooler and put under plane? By the way here is link to club forum in Se florida. On top is the lfs list.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/forumd...s=&forumid=235

DaveG99 · 06/13/2007, 02:41 PM

the guys at the airport would probably be too rough with it. They through stuff around back there.

DaveG99 · 06/13/2007, 02:41 PM

double post

dhogan · 06/13/2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by delsol650
Can't now a days with the " NO/little liquid " rule

I thought they lifted that ban.

blu iz · 06/13/2007, 03:15 PM

no liquid purchased outside the secured part of the airport is aloud..
I would call your airline before you leave and just ask them what their rules are... that way if you see some you like and buy it you don't get the airport and they refuse it...

wheelmanca19 · 06/13/2007, 03:52 PM

The NO liquid ban has been relaxed.

Now its all liquids must be in containers of 3oz or less. And all of those containers must fit inside a 1qt zip lock.

So, if you get a fish that can fit in a 3oz bottle, go for it.

Otherwise, pack it good and check it. Remember, its VERY VERY cold at 30,000+ feet. (Like -30 degrees F Cold)

Just Jim · 06/13/2007, 04:23 PM

doesn't seem worth it.....

pdfb55 · 06/13/2007, 04:53 PM

i'm pretty sure cold wont be an issue, they have to pressurize the cargo areas also. so it will stay the same temp as the cabin.

pledosophy · 06/13/2007, 05:05 PM

I flew with two frags from Orange County CA to Portland OR earlier this month. i had to check them and the total water hd to be less then 3.5oz. Although they didn't check cuz I was closer to 9oz.

You can not bring any frags on the plane. It is possible to look into having the fish or corals shipped to your home so you could get more, but cost is an issue.

Good Luck

tprize · 06/13/2007, 05:10 PM

Why not ship it back overnight???? Then you wouldn't have to worry at all.

karlmarx · 06/13/2007, 06:12 PM

agreed just bring a styrofome cooler box or call the lfs and ask if they have one. Pack all the stuff you find up add a heat/cool pack and ship it before 4:30. It will then go on the same kind of plane and handled by the same people as your flight. Really it comes down to peace of mind and 30-40 dollars. I would bet if you shipped using in-flight cargo it would be probably handled the same as if you shipped nextday air. The only diffrence is it would be delivered as soon as you land as opposed to the next morning. But if fedex's marketing makes you feel better then ship it for 30-40 dollars in this hobby thats not much.

Roy G. Biv · 06/13/2007, 06:17 PM

Put your frags in a small ziploc and swallow them. When you get home just poop in the tank. The protien skimmer should clean up the mess.

kathainbowen · 06/13/2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pmolan
Put your frags in a small ziploc and swallow them. When you get home just poop in the tank. The protien skimmer should clean up the mess.

.... but what about arcopora and montipora fanatics?

Yeah, I've been kind of curious as per how to fly with frags since I'll be able to visit Cap. Bay and my favorite LFS next month (soooOOOOoooo tempting!) Anyone else had any good/bad experience to share (particularly domestic flights and especially any Delta flights?)?

Shekki · 06/13/2007, 07:15 PM

You could just drive home. Then you'd only have to rent a car, pay for fuel, and miss a few days of work. Fed Ex might be the way to go.

tprize · 06/14/2007, 12:47 AM

Remember though, With FedEx you can unsure then. If they die on the plane ride home then you can't say anything. Also if the package gets damaged by FedEx, they pay for everything. if they damage it on the plane comeing home, they will tell you to pack better next time.

wayne in norway · 06/14/2007, 03:18 AM

With most corals it's better to ship them damp rather than in a little bit of water. Acros, montis are particularly suited to this.

Fish - did it a week ago. Don't take on as hand luggage, pack into checked luggage, double bagged and in a styrofoam as per IATA rules. I would check with your airline first tho'.

Ephraim · 06/14/2007, 05:42 PM

I am currently out of town and just picked up a nice rock of zoos about 4"x4". Would it be ok to pack them with a couple tablespoons of water in a fish bag in my checked baggage, or should i have them in enough water to be submerged. It's only an hour flight.

snagged by reef · 06/14/2007, 06:52 PM

....or are u going snorkling and trying to bring something back?

Just Jim · 06/14/2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snagged by reef
....or are u going snorkling and trying to bring something back?

ha, If it was legal I would.... I never really see anything that good looking anyway when I scuba/snorkel. The most interesting thing I've seen is a unicorn tang. I'm not into sps, and that mostly what I've seen. Now if I were in an area that had gem tangs schooling

bermuda reefer · 06/23/2007, 11:18 AM

Ok heres the deal. Right since 9/11 there is no liquid allowed on the plane. So go to walmart and purchace yourself a couple of beer o kegs, they are a lime green insulated type 32oz mug with a handle and a screw on top that seals. Will hold fish or coral anything on the small side in a plastic bag tied and inverted so the ogygen wont escape. them wrap in a towel and pack in your checked lugage. 100% success rate for me so far.

prugs · 07/12/2007, 07:53 AM

I talked with the local TSA about this.
You can check it as baggage, & mark it as live animals/fish. That way it would not go thru the x-ray machine. But it may have to be opened & inspected, to insure it is live animals/fish.

goreefer · 07/12/2007, 08:14 AM

This is how I have done this in the past:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=992286

GraviT · 07/12/2007, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by prugs
I talked with the local TSA about this.
You can check it as baggage, & mark it as live animals/fish. That way it would not go thru the x-ray machine. But it may have to be opened & inspected, to insure it is live animals/fish.

Yep, that's exactly what you do. Thanks for posting this..the ideas in this thread were getting pretty wacky.

06/13/2007, 01:37 PM	#1
Just Jim Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: berks county PA Posts: 1,660	traveling on an airplane with fish? I'm going on vacation soon (florida) and was wondering if I were to see something down there in a lfs that I liked, would it be possible to bring it back with me? Don't know what the flight rules are.... __________________ Big tanks are only big to people who don't have them. Current Tank Info: 240g Double sided DT, 45g sump, 55g fuge, and now a 150g new reef

06/13/2007, 01:41 PM	#2
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	Can't now a days with the " NO/little liquid " rule __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

06/13/2007, 03:15 PM	#7
blu iz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Birmingham AL Posts: 64	no liquid purchased outside the secured part of the airport is aloud.. I would call your airline before you leave and just ask them what their rules are... that way if you see some you like and buy it you don't get the airport and they refuse it... __________________ "Living proof of the blonde myth" Amy Current Tank Info: 100gl saltwater / 29gl and 180gl freshwater

06/13/2007, 04:23 PM	#9
Just Jim Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: berks county PA Posts: 1,660	doesn't seem worth it..... __________________ Big tanks are only big to people who don't have them. Current Tank Info: 240g Double sided DT, 45g sump, 55g fuge, and now a 150g new reef

06/13/2007, 05:05 PM	#11
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	I flew with two frags from Orange County CA to Portland OR earlier this month. i had to check them and the total water hd to be less then 3.5oz. Although they didn't check cuz I was closer to 9oz. You can not bring any frags on the plane. It is possible to look into having the fish or corals shipped to your home so you could get more, but cost is an issue. Good Luck __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

06/13/2007, 01:56 PM	#3
nyvp Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hollywood Florida Posts: 3,633	why couldnt you pack it in a cooler and put under plane? By the way here is link to club forum in Se florida. On top is the lfs list. http://reefcentral.com/forums/forumd...s=&forumid=235

06/13/2007, 02:41 PM	#4
DaveG99 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Forney Texas Posts: 1,597	the guys at the airport would probably be too rough with it. They through stuff around back there.

06/13/2007, 03:52 PM	#8
wheelmanca19 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 12	The NO liquid ban has been relaxed. Now its all liquids must be in containers of 3oz or less. And all of those containers must fit inside a 1qt zip lock. So, if you get a fish that can fit in a 3oz bottle, go for it. Otherwise, pack it good and check it. Remember, its VERY VERY cold at 30,000+ feet. (Like -30 degrees F Cold)

06/13/2007, 04:53 PM	#10
pdfb55 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 357	i'm pretty sure cold wont be an issue, they have to pressurize the cargo areas also. so it will stay the same temp as the cabin.

06/13/2007, 05:10 PM	#12
tprize Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,077	Why not ship it back overnight???? Then you wouldn't have to worry at all.

06/13/2007, 06:12 PM	#13
karlmarx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 476	agreed just bring a styrofome cooler box or call the lfs and ask if they have one. Pack all the stuff you find up add a heat/cool pack and ship it before 4:30. It will then go on the same kind of plane and handled by the same people as your flight. Really it comes down to peace of mind and 30-40 dollars. I would bet if you shipped using in-flight cargo it would be probably handled the same as if you shipped nextday air. The only diffrence is it would be delivered as soon as you land as opposed to the next morning. But if fedex's marketing makes you feel better then ship it for 30-40 dollars in this hobby thats not much.

06/13/2007, 06:17 PM	#14
Roy G. Biv Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,646	Put your frags in a small ziploc and swallow them. When you get home just poop in the tank. The protien skimmer should clean up the mess.

06/13/2007, 07:15 PM	#16
Shekki Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ocean City, MD Posts: 651	You could just drive home. Then you'd only have to rent a car, pay for fuel, and miss a few days of work. Fed Ex might be the way to go. __________________ Elos mini reef Current Tank Info: Elos mini, reefkeeper 2, Vortech MP20, ice cap moonlight, Reef Fanatic ATO

06/14/2007, 12:47 AM	#17
tprize Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,077	Remember though, With FedEx you can unsure then. If they die on the plane ride home then you can't say anything. Also if the package gets damaged by FedEx, they pay for everything. if they damage it on the plane comeing home, they will tell you to pack better next time.

06/14/2007, 03:18 AM	#18
wayne in norway Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 1,271	With most corals it's better to ship them damp rather than in a little bit of water. Acros, montis are particularly suited to this. Fish - did it a week ago. Don't take on as hand luggage, pack into checked luggage, double bagged and in a styrofoam as per IATA rules. I would check with your airline first tho'.

06/14/2007, 05:42 PM	#19
Ephraim Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 193	I am currently out of town and just picked up a nice rock of zoos about 4"x4". Would it be ok to pack them with a couple tablespoons of water in a fish bag in my checked baggage, or should i have them in enough water to be submerged. It's only an hour flight.

06/14/2007, 06:52 PM	#20
snagged by reef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 157	....or are u going snorkling and trying to bring something back?

06/23/2007, 11:18 AM	#22
bermuda reefer Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: bermuda Posts: 42	air travel Ok heres the deal. Right since 9/11 there is no liquid allowed on the plane. So go to walmart and purchace yourself a couple of beer o kegs, they are a lime green insulated type 32oz mug with a handle and a screw on top that seals. Will hold fish or coral anything on the small side in a plastic bag tied and inverted so the ogygen wont escape. them wrap in a towel and pack in your checked lugage. 100% success rate for me so far.

07/12/2007, 07:53 AM	#23
prugs Moving Out Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ 85140 Posts: 4,898	I talked with the local TSA about this. You can check it as baggage, & mark it as live animals/fish. That way it would not go thru the x-ray machine. But it may have to be opened & inspected, to insure it is live animals/fish. __________________ A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words. Current Tank Info: Getting rid of the last equipment :{

07/12/2007, 08:14 AM	#24
goreefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 825	This is how I have done this in the past: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=992286