My finger leather doesn't look good...need help

alzika · 07/12/2007, 10:14 AM

The finger leather I just purchased 2 days ago. It doesn't stand up straight, it droops over to the side, but is this normal? Also, today, I noticed what appeared to be some tissue coming off of the base of the stalk.

All of my water parameters are fine and all of my other corals seem to have no issues.

I posted in the coral forum, but got no answer. I need to know what to do to possibly save my coral. What is an iodine bath and would that help it? I have lugol's solution.

HPD Turbo · 07/12/2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by alzika
The finger leather I just purchased 2 days ago. It doesn't stand up straight, it droops over to the side, but is this normal? Also, today, I noticed what appeared to be some tissue coming off of the base of the stalk.

All of my water parameters are fine and all of my other corals seem to have no issues.

I posted in the coral forum, but got no answer. I need to know what to do to possibly save my coral. What is an iodine bath and would that help it? I have lugol's solution.

Mine did the same when first introduced, but affter 4 days comes up.
Do you have the correct flow, the tissue that you see maybe is for low flow, things that stock on the body, I dont know how to explain it.

theatrus · 07/12/2007, 10:19 AM

Don't use iodine dips with soft corals. Iodine dips in general are to remove specific parasites on corals, but should not be done to corals which will not tolerate it (which includes most soft corals)

Leathers sometimes go through a skin shedding process where they look much smaller and develop a flaky waxy skin. Its a normal process. It will clear up in a few days.

What are you water parameters? (pH, temperature, alk, presence of ammonia would be most critical)

steri · 07/12/2007, 10:24 AM

My Toadstool leather I bought took 4 days to open up. I remember being real worried on the 3rd day that it was dying. Most of my corals seemed fine after a day tops. My leather though took 4 days. Now he's open and looks very very happy....except that his top is a lot bigger then his stalk, and his head is starting to tilt on the heavier side a little bit. The cons of having a big head a guess

alzika · 07/12/2007, 10:31 AM

Around the tissue at the base I think I can see it's skeleton, it's white and looks strange.

HPD Turbo · 07/12/2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by steri
My Toadstool leather I bought took 4 days to open up. I remember being real worried on the 3rd day that it was dying. Most of my corals seemed fine after a day tops. My leather though took 4 days. Now he's open and looks very very happy....except that his top is a lot bigger then his stalk, and his head is starting to tilt on the heavier side a little bit. The cons of having a big head a guess

Frag the head?

steri · 07/12/2007, 10:35 AM

I have no idea what that is, but the way you describe it does nto sound good. Usually leathers are simple corals to keep. Do you know what your params are?

UnderCoverDork · 07/12/2007, 10:51 AM

we need more information to help. That is the reason you probably didnt get a reply in the coral section. It could be 100 diffrent things.

Sk8r · 07/12/2007, 10:53 AM

check your alkalinity. S/b around 8.3.

fishyvet · 07/12/2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by theatrus
Don't use iodine dips with soft corals. Iodine dips in general are to remove specific parasites on corals, but should not be done to corals which will not tolerate it (which includes most soft corals)

I iodine dipped my finger leather several times when it started necrosing for an unknown reason. The leather has been doing much better since (several months out now). Never heard that they would not tolerate it.

drummereef · 07/12/2007, 11:07 AM

Can you please list all your water parameters?

alzika · 07/12/2007, 05:58 PM

The ones I can check:

salinity 1.025
ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates very low, almost undetectable
ph 8.3

That's all I have test kits for

alzika · 07/12/2007, 06:03 PM

My other corals such as bubble, hammer, caulastrea all seem to be doing fine. It's just the finger leather that was purchased 2 days ago.

Kissfan79 · 07/12/2007, 06:55 PM

Mine did the same thing and took a few days to get going and look normal. Try blowing it with a turkey baster to get rid of any excess skin it is shedding. Have faith...it will come back to looking normal.

Jim

alzika · 07/15/2007, 07:32 PM

OK...well I took all of your advice and just waited, but I think things are worse...

I found the finger leather today completely detached from the rock that it was on, plus part of it turned dark brown and fell off.

What can I do now?

alzika · 07/15/2007, 11:13 PM

I really need help on this, I would appreciate if someone could reply.

sabbath · 07/16/2007, 04:40 AM

You really need to test for more to see more of what is going on. Alk, Mag, Ca, Phos. Most lps will test for free.

Dubbin1 · 07/16/2007, 05:06 AM

Stick it back on a rock and wait it out. Leathers can look almost dead for weeks and then one day look good as new.

07/12/2007, 10:14 AM	#1
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	My finger leather doesn't look good...need help The finger leather I just purchased 2 days ago. It doesn't stand up straight, it droops over to the side, but is this normal? Also, today, I noticed what appeared to be some tissue coming off of the base of the stalk. All of my water parameters are fine and all of my other corals seem to have no issues. I posted in the coral forum, but got no answer. I need to know what to do to possibly save my coral. What is an iodine bath and would that help it? I have lugol's solution.

07/12/2007, 10:19 AM	#3
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	Don't use iodine dips with soft corals. Iodine dips in general are to remove specific parasites on corals, but should not be done to corals which will not tolerate it (which includes most soft corals) Leathers sometimes go through a skin shedding process where they look much smaller and develop a flaky waxy skin. Its a normal process. It will clear up in a few days. What are you water parameters? (pH, temperature, alk, presence of ammonia would be most critical) __________________ Custom electronics purveyor. blueAcro.com Current Tank Info: 90g SPS+mixed reef (10 yrs): LEDBrick LEDs, 40g custom sump, Ca reactor, chiller, Vortech, lots of custom electronics

07/12/2007, 10:24 AM	#4
steri Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aurora, IL. Posts: 2,361	My Toadstool leather I bought took 4 days to open up. I remember being real worried on the 3rd day that it was dying. Most of my corals seemed fine after a day tops. My leather though took 4 days. Now he's open and looks very very happy....except that his top is a lot bigger then his stalk, and his head is starting to tilt on the heavier side a little bit. The cons of having a big head a guess __________________ 220g: French Angel, Emperor Angel, Passer Anger, Blue Tang, Yellow Tang, Snowflake Moray Eel, Lunar Wrasse Current Tank Info: 220 with T5HO lighting. ETSS skimmer.

07/12/2007, 10:35 AM	#7
steri Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aurora, IL. Posts: 2,361	I have no idea what that is, but the way you describe it does nto sound good. Usually leathers are simple corals to keep. Do you know what your params are? __________________ 220g: French Angel, Emperor Angel, Passer Anger, Blue Tang, Yellow Tang, Snowflake Moray Eel, Lunar Wrasse Current Tank Info: 220 with T5HO lighting. ETSS skimmer.

07/12/2007, 10:53 AM	#9
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	check your alkalinity. S/b around 8.3. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/12/2007, 10:31 AM	#5
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	Around the tissue at the base I think I can see it's skeleton, it's white and looks strange.

07/12/2007, 10:51 AM	#8
UnderCoverDork Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Detroit Posts: 429	we need more information to help. That is the reason you probably didnt get a reply in the coral section. It could be 100 diffrent things.

07/12/2007, 11:07 AM	#11
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	Can you please list all your water parameters? __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

07/12/2007, 05:58 PM	#12
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	The ones I can check: salinity 1.025 ammonia 0 nitrites 0 nitrates very low, almost undetectable ph 8.3 That's all I have test kits for

07/12/2007, 06:03 PM	#13
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	My other corals such as bubble, hammer, caulastrea all seem to be doing fine. It's just the finger leather that was purchased 2 days ago.

07/12/2007, 06:55 PM	#14
Kissfan79 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 558	Mine did the same thing and took a few days to get going and look normal. Try blowing it with a turkey baster to get rid of any excess skin it is shedding. Have faith...it will come back to looking normal. Jim

07/15/2007, 07:32 PM	#15
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	OK...well I took all of your advice and just waited, but I think things are worse... I found the finger leather today completely detached from the rock that it was on, plus part of it turned dark brown and fell off. What can I do now?

07/15/2007, 11:13 PM	#16
alzika Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 367	I really need help on this, I would appreciate if someone could reply.

07/16/2007, 04:40 AM	#17
sabbath Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Twin City's Mn. Posts: 1,771	You really need to test for more to see more of what is going on. Alk, Mag, Ca, Phos. Most lps will test for free.

07/16/2007, 05:06 AM	#18
Dubbin1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Findlay, Ohio Posts: 11,540	Stick it back on a rock and wait it out. Leathers can look almost dead for weeks and then one day look good as new.