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HPD Turbo · 07/16/2007, 02:01 PM

What is it needed on supplements for this kind of setting?

der_wille_zur_macht · 07/16/2007, 02:10 PM

Nothing. Regular water changes with good quality salt mix and good supply water will handle your needs.

In general, don't add supplements unless these conditions are true:

1) It's something you KNOW you need in your tank, because some creature you're keeping is depleting it
2) It's something you can TEST FOR, so you know when you've added the appropriate amount.

Anything beyond that is, at best, a waste of money.

sir_dudeguy · 07/16/2007, 02:13 PM

Agreed 100%

There's nothing being used up in a fowlr tank...so theres nothing to be added. Even in a lot of reef tanks there's nothing that needs to be added..people just see a cool looking label that "guarantees coral growth" and they buy into it. When really, they could be doing more harm than good, because if you're adding something thats not needed to begin with (this falls under number 1 from the above) you could just be harming the system.

drummereef · 07/16/2007, 02:16 PM

I would watch your alkalinity. Even coralline algae will take up some. Keeping it up between 7-11dkh will also help with pH fluxuation.

der_wille_zur_macht · 07/16/2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drummereef
I would watch your alkalinity. Even coralline algae will take up some.

Coralline will also take up Ca, but IMHO it's not critical to supplement either unless something crazy is going on. Supplementing both will promote really rapid coralline growth, while allowing both to decline towards the bottom of the acceptable range will slow growth. So if you want the growth, supplement. If you don't want it (it's tough to clean off glass!), don't supplement unless you're having clear problems.

In any case, regular water changes will keep everything under check!

HPD Turbo · 07/16/2007, 03:42 PM

Thanks a lot!!
Even EE is out of the question?, CA for the fishys?

McCrary · 07/16/2007, 03:54 PM

The nice thing about FOWLR setups is that you don't have to supplement the tank, water changes will usually suffice for anything that the tank is going to use up, so don't worry about supplementing anything and spend the money on fish.

07/16/2007, 02:01 PM	#1
HPD Turbo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: I really dont know Posts: 569	Fowlr What is it needed on supplements for this kind of setting? __________________ Alex S. Reefteria!!!! If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? Current Tank Info: 100gal, total system. Mixed reef. All DIY ex the tank.

07/16/2007, 02:10 PM	#2
der_wille_zur_macht Team RC Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 17,749	Nothing. Regular water changes with good quality salt mix and good supply water will handle your needs. In general, don't add supplements unless these conditions are true: 1) It's something you KNOW you need in your tank, because some creature you're keeping is depleting it 2) It's something you can TEST FOR, so you know when you've added the appropriate amount. Anything beyond that is, at best, a waste of money. __________________ Inconveniencing marine life since 1992 "It is my personal belief that reef aquaria should be thriving communities of biodiversity, representative of their wild counterparts, and not merely collections of pretty specimens growing on tidy clean rock shelves covered in purple coralline algae." (Eric Borneman)

07/16/2007, 02:13 PM	#3
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	Agreed 100% There's nothing being used up in a fowlr tank...so theres nothing to be added. Even in a lot of reef tanks there's nothing that needs to be added..people just see a cool looking label that "guarantees coral growth" and they buy into it. When really, they could be doing more harm than good, because if you're adding something thats not needed to begin with (this falls under number 1 from the above) you could just be harming the system. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

07/16/2007, 02:16 PM	#4
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	I would watch your alkalinity. Even coralline algae will take up some. Keeping it up between 7-11dkh will also help with pH fluxuation. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

07/16/2007, 03:42 PM	#6
HPD Turbo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: I really dont know Posts: 569	Thanks a lot!! Even EE is out of the question?, CA for the fishys? __________________ Alex S. Reefteria!!!! If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? Current Tank Info: 100gal, total system. Mixed reef. All DIY ex the tank.

07/16/2007, 03:54 PM	#7
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	The nice thing about FOWLR setups is that you don't have to supplement the tank, water changes will usually suffice for anything that the tank is going to use up, so don't worry about supplementing anything and spend the money on fish. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens