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luckydog104 · 08/13/2007, 09:20 PM

I pulled all my fish to qt , ich , I had 4 green chromis , 2 damsel , pair clowns, angel fish , pbt , and yellow tang. I planned on putting the green chromis in a 10 tonight and the clowns in another 10 gallon tank. Right now they are in a 55. I came home and had one green chromis left. Half of one was in the tank the other two gone , no trace at all anywhere. What could have happened?

luckydog104 · 08/13/2007, 09:21 PM

By the way I did do a water change of about 15 %

Randall_James · 08/13/2007, 09:26 PM

Well I would not move all the fish at one time... (bioload can get out of control really fast) and ammonia will wipe you out in a few hours.

If fish are completely gone, I would be checking closely for carpet surfers...

How big is your qt tank? I mean that is like 11 fish? and how is the qt tank setup?

Plenty of hiding areas are going to be needed so that fish can hide and chill.

luckydog104 · 08/13/2007, 09:40 PM

qt tank is a 55 . bare bottom and pvc pipe , aquaclear filter with sponge and ceramic bio type balls that I placed in my sump for 24 hours prior to qt. I know that is a lot of fish thats why I set up the two ten gallon tanks to help ease the demand of qt tank. I am also prepared to do daily or every other day water changes. I went through this process once but evidently didn't fix my problem the first time, so I know what i am in for.

luckydog104 · 08/13/2007, 09:41 PM

no carpet surfers btw I thought that as well.

Randall_James · 08/13/2007, 09:50 PM

Well i would have the clowns in the 10G the large fish in the 55 and also I would have aged a sponge/bioballs more than 24 hours. More like 1-2 weeks.

Get an ammonia alert badge (seachem is one maker) that goes in the tank and monitors the ammonia level full time. These badges do not respond instantly (2-4 hours) but at least give you a good idea of what is going on in the tank. I also use the display tank as a source of new water for qt as it is aged and ready to go. About day 3 the ammonia levels will start to go up really quickly and you can find yourself doing 100% water changes by the end of the day. (2x50%) After you get past this initial issue, it is a lot easier.

Keep making water and dumping it into your main display as it is ready.

luckydog104 · 08/13/2007, 09:53 PM

would you do hypo or copper? didn't have time to age two weeks another lesso learned , keep sponge in sump for this purpose toss when qt is finished and get another sponge.

Randall_James · 08/13/2007, 10:00 PM

I prefer hypo myself. It is non toxic and the main tank must remain fallow for 8 weeks anyway (and yes it seems like forever)

You can also use the "tank change" method. I have never done this one but sure sounds like fun. Every 3 days you change the fish into another fresh tanks (total of 4 times). This eliminates the ich as the parasite has been left behind and it takes 3 to 4 days on the fish to reach this stage. So technically after the second tank change you would be done. Going 3 to 4 times is just insurance. This method was fully described by Anthony Calfo and sounds really slick to me.

Here are my links on Ich anyway
http://myreeflinks.com/directory/545.html

dermer · 08/13/2007, 11:46 PM

uv sterilizers work great for ridding ich

Randall_James · 08/14/2007, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dermer
uv sterilizers work great for ridding ich

actually ... No they don't

08/13/2007, 09:20 PM	#1
luckydog104 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tenn Posts: 268	disaster I pulled all my fish to qt , ich , I had 4 green chromis , 2 damsel , pair clowns, angel fish , pbt , and yellow tang. I planned on putting the green chromis in a 10 tonight and the clowns in another 10 gallon tank. Right now they are in a 55. I came home and had one green chromis left. Half of one was in the tank the other two gone , no trace at all anywhere. What could have happened?

08/13/2007, 09:26 PM	#3
Randall_James Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,727	Well I would not move all the fish at one time... (bioload can get out of control really fast) and ammonia will wipe you out in a few hours. If fish are completely gone, I would be checking closely for carpet surfers... How big is your qt tank? I mean that is like 11 fish? and how is the qt tank setup? Plenty of hiding areas are going to be needed so that fish can hide and chill. __________________ "It's a dog eat dog world and I feel like I am wearing milkbone underwear"

08/13/2007, 09:50 PM	#6
Randall_James Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,727	Well i would have the clowns in the 10G the large fish in the 55 and also I would have aged a sponge/bioballs more than 24 hours. More like 1-2 weeks. Get an ammonia alert badge (seachem is one maker) that goes in the tank and monitors the ammonia level full time. These badges do not respond instantly (2-4 hours) but at least give you a good idea of what is going on in the tank. I also use the display tank as a source of new water for qt as it is aged and ready to go. About day 3 the ammonia levels will start to go up really quickly and you can find yourself doing 100% water changes by the end of the day. (2x50%) After you get past this initial issue, it is a lot easier. Keep making water and dumping it into your main display as it is ready. __________________ "It's a dog eat dog world and I feel like I am wearing milkbone underwear"

08/13/2007, 10:00 PM	#8
Randall_James Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,727	I prefer hypo myself. It is non toxic and the main tank must remain fallow for 8 weeks anyway (and yes it seems like forever) You can also use the "tank change" method. I have never done this one but sure sounds like fun. Every 3 days you change the fish into another fresh tanks (total of 4 times). This eliminates the ich as the parasite has been left behind and it takes 3 to 4 days on the fish to reach this stage. So technically after the second tank change you would be done. Going 3 to 4 times is just insurance. This method was fully described by Anthony Calfo and sounds really slick to me. Here are my links on Ich anyway http://myreeflinks.com/directory/545.html __________________ "It's a dog eat dog world and I feel like I am wearing milkbone underwear"

08/13/2007, 09:21 PM	#2
luckydog104 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tenn Posts: 268	By the way I did do a water change of about 15 %

08/13/2007, 09:40 PM	#4
luckydog104 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tenn Posts: 268	qt tank is a 55 . bare bottom and pvc pipe , aquaclear filter with sponge and ceramic bio type balls that I placed in my sump for 24 hours prior to qt. I know that is a lot of fish thats why I set up the two ten gallon tanks to help ease the demand of qt tank. I am also prepared to do daily or every other day water changes. I went through this process once but evidently didn't fix my problem the first time, so I know what i am in for.

08/13/2007, 09:41 PM	#5
luckydog104 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tenn Posts: 268	no carpet surfers btw I thought that as well.

08/13/2007, 09:53 PM	#7
luckydog104 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tenn Posts: 268	would you do hypo or copper? didn't have time to age two weeks another lesso learned , keep sponge in sump for this purpose toss when qt is finished and get another sponge.

08/13/2007, 11:46 PM	#9
dermer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 523	uv sterilizers work great for ridding ich