MAXED out or no?

Maika'i · 08/30/2007, 11:42 PM

I was tihnking a hector's goby, neon goby, a little blenny, maybe 2 more gobies (clown goby size). Is this possible for a 12 gallon? (using RO/DI water)
What are some suggestions that you would think are nice for 12 gallon not including any clownfish?

10 pounds of live rock
(maybe mushrooms and polyps not sure yet)

onthecourt4life · 08/30/2007, 11:54 PM

a firefish is always nice

Maika'i · 08/31/2007, 12:03 AM

those are cool, has anybody heard or know of the yellow stripe cling fish, those look pretty sweet

pledosophy · 08/31/2007, 12:31 AM

IMO that is too many fish. JMO

I'd go with two small gobies total, or one medium sized fish that didn't move around a lot.

JMO

Hormigaquatica · 08/31/2007, 12:57 AM

I dont think that combination is too bad, maybe a little overdone. I would have 2 concerns about it though:

1- I would be worried about any blenny harassing gobies in that small of a space. Even the little ones can be pretty territorial.

2- Strongly suggest you skip the hectori. They will sometimes accept aquarium food, but they are primarily sandsifters, and it is really unlikely that your tank will be able to provide enough food for one long term. I would normally suggest one as the primary bottom dweller in a well established tank over 30 gallons. They eat more than you might think.

If you were to eliminate the blenny and hectori, I think a firefish would be a good addition. Could also consider something like a Banggai cardinal- fairly small, and not an active swimmer. Maybe a shrimp/goby pair too (yellow rose goby, yashe hase, aurora goby, etc. Not one of the larger twinspot/watchman types).

FWIW- clingfish generally have a miserable life expectancy in captivity. I wouldnt suggest it in anything but the largest of tanks, ideally with a group of host urchins.

ralphie16 · 08/31/2007, 07:38 AM

i agree about the clingfish being totally inappropriate for your tanks. I have mine hosting several urchins which they use for food and shelter. If you only have one urchin they will kill it pretty fast thats why you need a couple. So they have time to regenerate between feedings. And its a terrible idea to have urchins in a small tank cause you will constantly get pricked, they knock everything over, and they will not have enough surface area to raze and will starve.

I on the other hand have a hector goby in a 25 nano but the poor little guy was starving for the first few months and would not take any prepared food. Sometimes he would but would quickly spit it out. Then I let the nutrients build up in the tank to let the algae flourish and that did the trick. Now I have a very very fat Hectors Goby. But the tanks looks not very nice at all with all the cyno, hair, and other algae, but at least it keeps him fat and happy. They shift sand nonstop.

thor32766 · 08/31/2007, 07:42 AM

firefish are sweet! i have a pair of them and they are really sweet!

RichConley · 08/31/2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by pledosophy
IMO that is too many fish. JMO

I'd go with two small gobies total, or one medium sized fish that didn't move around a lot.

JMO

I completely disagree.

Maika'i · 08/31/2007, 10:22 AM

oh I didn't know the blennies were mean fish, my LFS always has like 5 hectori's gobies, if I even consider it I'll wait a few months before adding it, I do not have a protein skimmer so it should built up enough nutrients for it. I'll make sure it eats before buying it too. So like 3 maybe 4 small gobies max?

MrSpiffy · 08/31/2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by RichConley
I completely disagree.

Care to share why you disagree? Personally, I agree with the others. 5 fish is too many for 12 gallons. Especially if you threw a blenny in there. I'd say 3 fish tops in something that size. And they should be small or mostly stationary. A firefish would be a nice choice. I've even seen clownfish in something that small, as they tend to stay fairly close to their homes (coral/anemone).

Hormigaquatica · 08/31/2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by RichConley
I completely disagree.

OK, would you care to add something constructive, or just trying to irritate people per usual?

Quote:

Originally posted by Maika'i
So like 3 maybe 4 small gobies max?

Yeah, I think that is pretty reasonable for that style of tank.

Maika'i · 08/31/2007, 02:06 PM

what are some peaceful small blennies?

RichConley · 08/31/2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hormigaquatica
OK, would you care to add something constructive, or just trying to irritate people per usual?

Yeah, I think that is pretty reasonable for that style of tank.

Pledosophy was saying that 3 or 4 gobies is way too much for that tank, and I disagree. The OP is asking for oppions. I gave mine. What have you provided here, other than ripping on me?

I think its fine. I think most tanks are understocked.

We're talking about fish that have a body mass of a couple of grams here, not 5 tangs.

" was tihnking a hector's goby, neon goby, a little blenny, maybe 2 more gobies (clown goby size)."

All those fish have less body mass total than a single occellaris clown.

reefing102 · 08/31/2007, 02:25 PM

if it was my tank i might do 1 or 2 gobies and maybe a cardinal OR a firefish

OR

a goby - with a pistol and ocellaris - along with a good clean up crew

08/30/2007, 11:42 PM	#1
Maika'i Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 217	MAXED out or no? I was tihnking a hector's goby, neon goby, a little blenny, maybe 2 more gobies (clown goby size). Is this possible for a 12 gallon? (using RO/DI water) What are some suggestions that you would think are nice for 12 gallon not including any clownfish? 10 pounds of live rock (maybe mushrooms and polyps not sure yet)

08/31/2007, 12:31 AM	#4
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	IMO that is too many fish. JMO I'd go with two small gobies total, or one medium sized fish that didn't move around a lot. JMO __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

08/31/2007, 12:57 AM	#5
Hormigaquatica Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,022	I dont think that combination is too bad, maybe a little overdone. I would have 2 concerns about it though: 1- I would be worried about any blenny harassing gobies in that small of a space. Even the little ones can be pretty territorial. 2- Strongly suggest you skip the hectori. They will sometimes accept aquarium food, but they are primarily sandsifters, and it is really unlikely that your tank will be able to provide enough food for one long term. I would normally suggest one as the primary bottom dweller in a well established tank over 30 gallons. They eat more than you might think. If you were to eliminate the blenny and hectori, I think a firefish would be a good addition. Could also consider something like a Banggai cardinal- fairly small, and not an active swimmer. Maybe a shrimp/goby pair too (yellow rose goby, yashe hase, aurora goby, etc. Not one of the larger twinspot/watchman types). FWIW- clingfish generally have a miserable life expectancy in captivity. I wouldnt suggest it in anything but the largest of tanks, ideally with a group of host urchins. __________________ Reaching up and reaching out and reaching for the random, or whatever will bewilder me. Have Some Personal Accountability Current Tank Info: 240g LPS/Softie Reef

08/31/2007, 07:42 AM	#7
thor32766 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chuluota, FL Posts: 6,072	firefish are sweet! i have a pair of them and they are really sweet! __________________ "Live your life so no one has to lie about who you were at your funeral" click on my red house to see my tang compound! Current Tank Info: 29 gallon in Wall!

08/31/2007, 02:25 PM	#14
reefing102 Who Am I Here? Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 1,155	if it was my tank i might do 1 or 2 gobies and maybe a cardinal OR a firefish OR a goby - with a pistol and ocellaris - along with a good clean up crew __________________ Shane Life's a climb... but the view is great. ______________________________ Current Tank Info: 2.5 Gallon Nano

08/30/2007, 11:54 PM	#2
onthecourt4life Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 170	a firefish is always nice

08/31/2007, 12:03 AM	#3
Maika'i Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 217	those are cool, has anybody heard or know of the yellow stripe cling fish, those look pretty sweet

08/31/2007, 07:38 AM	#6
ralphie16 Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,550	i agree about the clingfish being totally inappropriate for your tanks. I have mine hosting several urchins which they use for food and shelter. If you only have one urchin they will kill it pretty fast thats why you need a couple. So they have time to regenerate between feedings. And its a terrible idea to have urchins in a small tank cause you will constantly get pricked, they knock everything over, and they will not have enough surface area to raze and will starve. I on the other hand have a hector goby in a 25 nano but the poor little guy was starving for the first few months and would not take any prepared food. Sometimes he would but would quickly spit it out. Then I let the nutrients build up in the tank to let the algae flourish and that did the trick. Now I have a very very fat Hectors Goby. But the tanks looks not very nice at all with all the cyno, hair, and other algae, but at least it keeps him fat and happy. They shift sand nonstop.

08/31/2007, 10:22 AM	#9
Maika'i Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 217	oh I didn't know the blennies were mean fish, my LFS always has like 5 hectori's gobies, if I even consider it I'll wait a few months before adding it, I do not have a protein skimmer so it should built up enough nutrients for it. I'll make sure it eats before buying it too. So like 3 maybe 4 small gobies max?

08/31/2007, 02:06 PM	#12
Maika'i Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 217	what are some peaceful small blennies?