Is this a good stock list?

CU kills · 09/07/2007, 09:53 PM

I will be converting my 35 gallon FW tank in a few months, and was wondering if this would be a good fish stock list?

2 Percula Clowns (which I currently have in my 10gal)
3 Green Chromis
1 Neon Goby
1 Royal Gramma

The LR, LS, and cleanup crew will be "The Package" from TBS. The lighting will be Current USA Satellite PC's (10,000K daylight, 460nm actinic, and Current lunar lights). 2 powersweep PH. Prizm Skimmer.

Will that be to much Bioload? I will accept any suggestions on fish or equipment since the tank is not setup yet and I still have to aquire the equipment. Thanks in advance for any help.

dreaminmel · 09/07/2007, 10:53 PM

If it was my 35 gallon tank I'd skip the chromis. They have a rep for killing each other off. I have four in my 125 gallon and it seems like it's just barely enough space for them to get along. When I had three in my old 72 gallon they used to constantly fight.

yellowwatchmen · 09/07/2007, 10:57 PM

You could get a goby instead of the chromis they have great personalities.

acronautical · 09/07/2007, 11:03 PM

I would skip the chromis as well...They are frenetic and spastic fish-even in a large tank. They usually battle each other, and pester non-aggressive fish like cardinals unmercifully. A group of long-spine (blue-eye) cardinals in a friend's 180 reef were tattered, beaten, and in constant hiding during daylight hours-until several of the green chromis that had been badgering them spontaneously (and mercifully) jumped out of the tank.

dreaminmel · 09/07/2007, 11:07 PM

Yeah, it's my strong opinion that chromis need a fish larger than them in the tank that has a liking for bullying them. That way they tend to stick w/ the "safety in numbers" theory. My atlantic blue tang provides that balance in my tank but I would never suggest a fish that large for a 35 gallon.

CU kills · 09/07/2007, 11:08 PM

What would you suggest instead of the chromis? I am looking to have as many colorful fish as is safe for the bioload. I am going to wait awhile before I buy any corals 1) because I'm not confident enough to try 2) I want to have a little more experience.

dreaminmel · 09/07/2007, 11:11 PM

I would consider a longnose hawkfish (interesting behavior) or one of the 3 different firefish: regular red one, purple one or the expensive helfrichii (sp?). If the cleaner package includes any small shrimp though, the hawkfish would not be a good idea.

Also, for stocking order I would suggest adding the clowns and gramma last due to their potentially boisterous behavior when compared to the others.

CU kills · 09/07/2007, 11:26 PM

Would a peppermint shrimp be considered small. Also I don't know what kind of hitchhikers will be on the LR. I'll be adding over time would that affect the order because after spending nearlt a grand to setup the tank the percs will be the only fish for a long time

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by yellowwatchmen
You could get a goby instead of the chromis they have great personalities.

I already have a neon goby on the list, is a 35 large enough for 2 gobies. My research says they can be very teritorial with other gobies.

yellowwatchmen · 09/08/2007, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CU kills
I already have a neon goby on the list, is a 35 large enough for 2 gobies. My research says they can be very teritorial with other gobies.

Yeah i saw that but didnt thihk about it, and yes they can be territorial. You might be able to get away with a coral beauty.

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 10:54 AM

Could I have the coral beauty and a six line wrasse? Or would that be to many fish?

yellowwatchmen · 09/08/2007, 11:43 AM

six line wrasses can get agresssive as they get older. Also if you do get the coral beauty watch out for it nipping at corals some do and some dont 50/50 chance

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 07:11 PM

Any suggestions for the equipment? Or is what I have choosen going to work well.

yellowwatchmen · 09/08/2007, 07:24 PM

Are you going to have a sump?

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 07:34 PM

I don't know I have been told that for such a small tank. I do have a 10 gallon which I could make into a small sump if I had to, but I was hopeing to use it as a QT.

yellowwatchmen · 09/08/2007, 08:22 PM

You can just go buy a tank at petco they are having a sell. You can either drill your tank or get a overflow.

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 08:39 PM

1) Do I need a sump? 2) If so what size? 3) The tank is glass so I cannot drill. 4) What is an overflow? Stupid questions I know, but I am still pretty new to SW.

yellowwatchmen · 09/08/2007, 09:34 PM

You can Drill glass as long as it is not tempered. For sump i would go with a 20 long. And no you technically do not need a sump but i would highly reccomend it.

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 09:49 PM

What does a sump do for a tank? Besides adding more water volume.

WILDTHING · 09/08/2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CU kills
I will be converting my 35 gallon FW tank in a few months, and was wondering if this would be a good fish stock list?

2 Percula Clowns (which I currently have in my 10gal)
3 Green Chromis
1 Neon Goby
1 Royal Gramma

The LR, LS, and cleanup crew will be "The Package" from TBS. The lighting will be Current USA Satellite PC's (10,000K daylight, 460nm actinic, and Current lunar lights). 2 powersweep PH. Prizm Skimmer.

Will that be to much Bioload? I will accept any suggestions on fish or equipment since the tank is not setup yet and I still have to aquire the equipment. Thanks in advance for any help.

what about a algae blenny AKA sailfin blenny, lots of personality and pretty hardy. Or there are many different Blennies to choose from
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?pCatId=23

Save your money and don't buy the power sweeps! What a piece of junk. Within a month they stop sweeping and they aren't very powerfull even when new. Get some maxi jets instead and some Hydor nozzles and you have powerfull water movement at a good price and low wattage.

Stay away from Prizims also. Do a search in the lighting and filtration forum for a good little skimmer. Spend as much as you can afford on it as its probably the most important piece of equipment you'll need.

Before you decide on the PC's see if you can see some in action in person. Look into some T5's. they give great light which will allow you to pretty much keep anything you want down the line. They are also very energy friendly. And you can buy any bulb combo so you can get exactly the look you want. Personally I find PC's kinda yellow, and they don't penatrate as well as T5's or MH.

Try to get your tank drilled so you can add a sump and have more water volume in your system. Its also a great place to hide heaters and skimmers and reactors etc.

Probably the best thing you can do is find a reef club in your area. You'll be able to see many different ways of doing things and get help drilling/plumbing. Good prices on frags and many people upgrading and selling their "stuff".

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 10:24 PM

I must have gotten lucky with powersweeps because I have one in my 10 gallon since I started the tank. The only time it has stopped sweeping was when a large piece of maidens hair algea wrapped around it after it was knocked loose by my serpent star. Other then that no problems, also you have to buy the larger GPH model then recommended.

Also how do I go about finding a reefers club near me.

WILDTHING · 09/08/2007, 10:40 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...?s=&forumid=80

this is a good place to start.

CU kills · 09/08/2007, 11:05 PM

I looked through the linked page and the only club listed is nearly 500 miles away in Las Vegas. I also searched the web and there weren't any that came up. I'll call my LFS and ask them. didnt know about local reef clubs that could help out a lot.

09/07/2007, 09:53 PM	#1
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	Is this a good stock list? I will be converting my 35 gallon FW tank in a few months, and was wondering if this would be a good fish stock list? 2 Percula Clowns (which I currently have in my 10gal) 3 Green Chromis 1 Neon Goby 1 Royal Gramma The LR, LS, and cleanup crew will be "The Package" from TBS. The lighting will be Current USA Satellite PC's (10,000K daylight, 460nm actinic, and Current lunar lights). 2 powersweep PH. Prizm Skimmer. Will that be to much Bioload? I will accept any suggestions on fish or equipment since the tank is not setup yet and I still have to aquire the equipment. Thanks in advance for any help. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/07/2007, 10:53 PM	#2
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,758	If it was my 35 gallon tank I'd skip the chromis. They have a rep for killing each other off. I have four in my 125 gallon and it seems like it's just barely enough space for them to get along. When I had three in my old 72 gallon they used to constantly fight. __________________ ~Melanie~ Hiatus over, 120g in process "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/07/2007, 11:07 PM	#5
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,758	Yeah, it's my strong opinion that chromis need a fish larger than them in the tank that has a liking for bullying them. That way they tend to stick w/ the "safety in numbers" theory. My atlantic blue tang provides that balance in my tank but I would never suggest a fish that large for a 35 gallon. __________________ ~Melanie~ Hiatus over, 120g in process "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/07/2007, 11:08 PM	#6
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	What would you suggest instead of the chromis? I am looking to have as many colorful fish as is safe for the bioload. I am going to wait awhile before I buy any corals 1) because I'm not confident enough to try 2) I want to have a little more experience. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/07/2007, 11:11 PM	#7
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,758	I would consider a longnose hawkfish (interesting behavior) or one of the 3 different firefish: regular red one, purple one or the expensive helfrichii (sp?). If the cleaner package includes any small shrimp though, the hawkfish would not be a good idea. Also, for stocking order I would suggest adding the clowns and gramma last due to their potentially boisterous behavior when compared to the others. __________________ ~Melanie~ Hiatus over, 120g in process "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/07/2007, 10:57 PM	#3
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	You could get a goby instead of the chromis they have great personalities.

09/07/2007, 11:03 PM	#4
acronautical Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 41	I would skip the chromis as well...They are frenetic and spastic fish-even in a large tank. They usually battle each other, and pester non-aggressive fish like cardinals unmercifully. A group of long-spine (blue-eye) cardinals in a friend's 180 reef were tattered, beaten, and in constant hiding during daylight hours-until several of the green chromis that had been badgering them spontaneously (and mercifully) jumped out of the tank.

09/07/2007, 11:26 PM	#8
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	Would a peppermint shrimp be considered small. Also I don't know what kind of hitchhikers will be on the LR. I'll be adding over time would that affect the order because after spending nearlt a grand to setup the tank the percs will be the only fish for a long time __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 10:54 AM	#11
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	Could I have the coral beauty and a six line wrasse? Or would that be to many fish? __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 11:43 AM	#12
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	six line wrasses can get agresssive as they get older. Also if you do get the coral beauty watch out for it nipping at corals some do and some dont 50/50 chance

09/08/2007, 07:11 PM	#13
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	Any suggestions for the equipment? Or is what I have choosen going to work well. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 07:24 PM	#14
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	Are you going to have a sump?

09/08/2007, 07:34 PM	#15
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	I don't know I have been told that for such a small tank. I do have a 10 gallon which I could make into a small sump if I had to, but I was hopeing to use it as a QT. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 08:22 PM	#16
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	You can just go buy a tank at petco they are having a sell. You can either drill your tank or get a overflow.

09/08/2007, 08:39 PM	#17
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	1) Do I need a sump? 2) If so what size? 3) The tank is glass so I cannot drill. 4) What is an overflow? Stupid questions I know, but I am still pretty new to SW. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 09:34 PM	#18
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	You can Drill glass as long as it is not tempered. For sump i would go with a 20 long. And no you technically do not need a sump but i would highly reccomend it.

09/08/2007, 09:49 PM	#19
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	What does a sump do for a tank? Besides adding more water volume. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.

09/08/2007, 10:24 PM	#21
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	I must have gotten lucky with powersweeps because I have one in my 10 gallon since I started the tank. The only time it has stopped sweeping was when a large piece of maidens hair algea wrapped around it after it was knocked loose by my serpent star. Other then that no problems, also you have to buy the larger GPH model then recommended. Also how do I go about finding a reefers club near me. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown. Last edited by CU kills; 09/08/2007 at 10:29 PM.

09/08/2007, 10:40 PM	#22
WILDTHING Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Churchville, Va Posts: 1,753	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...?s=&forumid=80 this is a good place to start.

09/08/2007, 11:05 PM	#23
CU kills Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 104	I looked through the linked page and the only club listed is nearly 500 miles away in Las Vegas. I also searched the web and there weren't any that came up. I'll call my LFS and ask them. didnt know about local reef clubs that could help out a lot. __________________ Life is the only STD that is 100% fatal. Current Tank Info: 75lbs LR +or- a few LBS, 50lbs of LS, 20 Dwarf Cerith snails, 15 Nerite snails, 10 Nassarious snails, 2 Ninja star snails, 1 28+ polyp zoa colony, 1 Green Galxia, 1 Orange Cap Montipora, 1 Red Mangrove, 3 Yellow Tail Damsels, 1 True Perc Clown.