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Unread 09/07/2007, 03:43 PM   #1
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Montis bleaching but white bugs found

I have a very large 30" across piece of green Monti that is beaching out. I pulled a piece of a very large Green Monti out and put it in a seperate container after looking over it real well. Once the water fowled I found a bunch of small white parasites in the bottom of the container. They look like small white brine shrimp with more legs. Anyone have any ideas? Can Monties be dipped in fresh water or salt water with Lugols to get rid of parasites? I have a six line wrasse in the tank and he is not browsing on the colonies at all.

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Unread 09/07/2007, 06:23 PM   #2
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Sounds like it might be Nudis. Eric Borneman just wrote a good article about methods to erradicate them. Its on the main page of Reef Central.


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Unread 09/08/2007, 03:39 PM   #3
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Ok I have set up two thanks a 20 gallon long dip tank and a 60 gallon quarentine tank with VHOs and MH lighting and about an inch of crushed coral. Now the problem is what to treat with.

Here are the options that I have found from reading through all the literature on the web:

1. Tertra OOD
Sounds like this is a viable option in reasonable dosages, I have checked all the local pet stores and no luck finding it. I searched the web and have not found anywere that carries it. Any suggestions on locating any?

2. Garlic extract: Best I can tell from the reading this is hit and miss and in the levels required hurts the coral.

3. Potasium Permaganate. Sounds like a good option in the right levels but I am having difficuties finding any local and it may be difficult to get shipped since it is a HAZMAT substance. I did find a Jungle pond product that said it had Potasium Permaganate called Oxy Clear. Does anyone know if this is 100% Potassium Permaganate? Or does anyone know a reputable source for smaller quantities?

4. Iodine(Lugols Solution): No info. Does anyone know if this will work for dipping at least in the short term until one of the other remedies can be aquired?

5. Fresh Water: No Info. Also does anyone know if this will work for dipping at least in the short term until one of the other remedies can be aquired?

So here are the questions again:
1. Online source for Tetra OOD?
2. Reputable online source for smaller quantities of Potasium Permaganate?
3. Does Lugols have any affect? If so how long do you dip?
4. Does Fresh Water Dips have any affect and if so how long do you dip?
5. Could these bugs atack Acros as well?

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Unread 09/08/2007, 06:28 PM   #4
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Hard to say w/out pics. Sounds like monti nudis. I had them and put all montis in a QT tank and did dips w/ levamisole every week for 6 weeks. I did lose some corals, but I also lost the nudis.

I don't think the Tetra product you're looking for is sold in the US anymore. I actually tried some from an old bottle I had, and other than the nudis taking the product up into their tissue (it's purple), it didn't kill them. Levamisole is a pig dewormer and can be found at most co-op places or from online farm supply businesses. It works by paralyzing the nudis so you can blast them off with a small powerhead or turkey baster. My losses came when I left the corals in the dip tank too long.

Also, I added a couple of scooter blennies to the tank with the nudis, so that may have figured into all of this. They're always hunting food in the tank, but I don't know positively if they eat the nudibranchs in question.


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Unread 09/09/2007, 06:25 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info. Any one else have any answers for:
1. Online source for Tetra OOD?
2. Reputable online source for smaller quantities of Potasium Permaganate?
3. Does Lugols have any affect? If so how long do you dip?
4. Does Fresh Water Dips have any affect and if so how long do you dip?
5. Could these bugs atack Acros as well?


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Unread 09/09/2007, 06:47 AM   #6
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Alot of these questions cannot be answered until you are certain of what you have. I would get some pictures and post them here to identify them first, and then formulate a plan of action. For all we know, they are Amphipods or Mysid Shrimp.


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