Are these aptasia? pics

customanimalart · 09/13/2007, 09:13 PM

Is this aptasia? This big monster, almost as big in diameter as a quarter, won't DIE! Their are tinier ones behind it that don't want to die very easy either.
I have aptasia stop and have injected it (all of them) about 5 times. It will shrink, then come back in a day or so. Same goes for the small green ones that are stinging my RPE's.

It is so hard to get them because they dart back into their little holes. The big one is on a HUGE rock that can't be taken out of the tank, to kill it.

Is this just a crappy product (hope not at 20.00 a bottle NOT including the syringe)or are they NOT aptasia?

What else can I try before my tank is full of these suckers.

ACBlinky · 09/13/2007, 11:39 PM

The top pic certainly looks like an Aiptasia species to me (there are a few types of 'glass anemone'). The bottom ones might be majanos, I'm really not sure - do the tips of their tentacles bubble out more at times (like a BTA)? I've never heard of green Aiptasia, but majanos and tulip anemones come in all sorts of pretty colours. Regardless, you should be able to zap them with kalk paste.

Mix up a thick (toothpaste consistency) mix of kalk and water. Use a pipette or syringe to 'feed' the paste to the 'nem, and then when it closes up, bury it in paste. Do this with the pumps off, as you don't want the paste to land on and burn your corals. After the paste sits for a few minutes, you can turn the pumps back on - unless there's strong flow directly on that spot, it will stay in place IME. If you don't want to leave it, you can always use the syringe to remove the paste and the remains of the nem before you turn the pumps on, but IME they grow back about 50% of the time when I do this. Leaving the paste usually results in one very dead anemone that doesn't regrow.

Best of luck

Mr31415 · 09/14/2007, 01:21 AM

The bottom one looks much like a Zoanthid... Well, I am not sure of the exact species but I do know they are predatory but in my tank they do not proliferate - they do not sting anything either.

ToniYo · 09/14/2007, 06:42 AM

I'm going to agree that the top one is an aiptasia but the 2nd doesn't look like it. I use either Joe's Juice and kind of drop it on them or I inject them with boiling water.

icechimpee · 09/14/2007, 06:46 AM

kill them both just to be sure. Just be careful using jj

laszlo · 09/14/2007, 07:10 AM

Yes, the top pic deffinently looks like an aptasia. I've injected them with lemon juice, and it has worked wonderfully. I'm not sure about the other two tho, could be majanos.

I've heard of great results with the kalk paste too.

Just do not try to scrape them off or anything physical like that, it will just cause them to spread like mad (personal experience).

Travis L. Stevens · 09/14/2007, 08:31 AM

1) Yes
2) No
3) No

The last two are a type of Protopalythoa

Gdevine · 09/14/2007, 09:04 AM

Buy one to two peppermint shrimps and they'll be gone in short order...

Cuby2k · 09/14/2007, 09:54 AM

I don't think the bottom two are Majano, I had an outbreak of those as well and they are not nearly as bad as aptasia.

HBtank · 09/14/2007, 10:03 AM

I doubt very much that the bottom two pics are Paly's.

Look how bad they are stinging the Zoas next to them, every one is cured up on the edge and not doing very well.

They must be a pest anenome, what type is irrelevant, only the fact that they are doing damage. The top is definately an aip. Get rid of them all.

Travis L. Stevens · 09/14/2007, 10:08 AM

You got a point HBTank. That was something that I overlooked. But they do look like long tentacled polyps of some sort.

customanimalart · 09/14/2007, 10:47 AM

thanks for your replies everyone.

The green ones, next to the RPE polyps, are not majano, as I know what those look like as I have had two of them before. They aren't a polyp either because they shrink right back into their holes if they are touched, just like an anemone. If it was a polyp, wouldn't it just close rather than "run" into its hole?

laslo-thanks for letting me know not to scrape or cut them off. I REALLY had been thinking about it. I just could never grab it with the tongs.

One thing I haven't done is turn off all my powerheads and skimmer when I try to inject them. I will give that a shot before I move to another method.

How long should I keep the skimmer off afterwards??
I think a few peppermint shirimp are in my near future. =)

seapug · 09/14/2007, 12:22 PM

I use Aptasia Control (looks like Kalk paste) with pretty good success on mine, and I've had some big ones. Turn off your powerheads and completely coat the big ones and let it sit for 1/2 hour. Some can be in tough spots but you'll eventually get them.

customanimalart · 09/14/2007, 01:41 PM

I don't have any kalkwasser, but I do have another calcium supplement powder. Can I make a paste with that or does it need to be kalkwasser?

And after a half hour, what do I do with the paste? Do I leave it on or scrape it off or what?

fezza101 · 09/14/2007, 02:28 PM

i bought 2 aptasia eating file fish. Gone in a day =O)

seapug · 09/14/2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by fezza101
i bought 2 aptasia eating file fish. Gone in a day =O)

And all the other polyps in your tank will be gone in two days.

I just leave the paste there. It eventually just dissolves. It never seems to cause problems as long as giant blobs don't fall on stuff you want to keep.

customanimalart · 09/14/2007, 02:54 PM

so can I make it using sea chem reef advantage calcium? It is just sitting in my cabinet as I don't even use it. I use C-balance.

09/13/2007, 09:13 PM	#1
customanimalart Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kissimmee Florida Posts: 636	Are these aptasia? pics Is this aptasia? This big monster, almost as big in diameter as a quarter, won't DIE! Their are tinier ones behind it that don't want to die very easy either. I have aptasia stop and have injected it (all of them) about 5 times. It will shrink, then come back in a day or so. Same goes for the small green ones that are stinging my RPE's. It is so hard to get them because they dart back into their little holes. The big one is on a HUGE rock that can't be taken out of the tank, to kill it. Is this just a crappy product (hope not at 20.00 a bottle NOT including the syringe)or are they NOT aptasia? What else can I try before my tank is full of these suckers. __________________ Darn aiptasia!!! Current Tank Info: 55g reef, 12g QT, and 55g frag tank.

09/13/2007, 11:39 PM	#2
ACBlinky Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada Posts: 4,954 Blog Entries: 20	The top pic certainly looks like an Aiptasia species to me (there are a few types of 'glass anemone'). The bottom ones might be majanos, I'm really not sure - do the tips of their tentacles bubble out more at times (like a BTA)? I've never heard of green Aiptasia, but majanos and tulip anemones come in all sorts of pretty colours. Regardless, you should be able to zap them with kalk paste. Mix up a thick (toothpaste consistency) mix of kalk and water. Use a pipette or syringe to 'feed' the paste to the 'nem, and then when it closes up, bury it in paste. Do this with the pumps off, as you don't want the paste to land on and burn your corals. After the paste sits for a few minutes, you can turn the pumps back on - unless there's strong flow directly on that spot, it will stay in place IME. If you don't want to leave it, you can always use the syringe to remove the paste and the remains of the nem before you turn the pumps on, but IME they grow back about 50% of the time when I do this. Leaving the paste usually results in one very dead anemone that doesn't regrow. Best of luck __________________ "The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea." - Isak Dinesen Current Tank Info: 150g mixed reef, 30g sump/refugium, LED lighting, 100lbs LR, coral beauty, flame angel, blue & yellow tangs, gobies, damsels, 6-line wrasse, lawnmower blenny, dottyback, clown pair, rabbitfish, shrimp, crabs, CUC.

09/14/2007, 06:46 AM	#5
icechimpee Time is Money Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 246	kill them both just to be sure. Just be careful using jj __________________ 93 Gallon "Cube" 30x30x24...in the works

09/14/2007, 08:31 AM	#7
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	1) Yes 2) No 3) No The last two are a type of Protopalythoa __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

09/14/2007, 09:04 AM	#8
Gdevine Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pompano Beach, FL Posts: 1,232	Buy one to two peppermint shrimps and they'll be gone in short order... __________________ What's good having a monkey if you can't play with it? Current Tank Info: 65g Mixed Reef - 35g Fuge - EcoSystem Method

09/14/2007, 01:21 AM	#3
Mr31415 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Surrey, Canada Posts: 1,926	The bottom one looks much like a Zoanthid... Well, I am not sure of the exact species but I do know they are predatory but in my tank they do not proliferate - they do not sting anything either.

09/14/2007, 06:42 AM	#4
ToniYo Premium Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tarpon Springs, FL Posts: 214	I'm going to agree that the top one is an aiptasia but the 2nd doesn't look like it. I use either Joe's Juice and kind of drop it on them or I inject them with boiling water.

09/14/2007, 07:10 AM	#6
laszlo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 176	Yes, the top pic deffinently looks like an aptasia. I've injected them with lemon juice, and it has worked wonderfully. I'm not sure about the other two tho, could be majanos. I've heard of great results with the kalk paste too. Just do not try to scrape them off or anything physical like that, it will just cause them to spread like mad (personal experience).

09/14/2007, 09:54 AM	#9
Cuby2k Cuby2k Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 982	I don't think the bottom two are Majano, I had an outbreak of those as well and they are not nearly as bad as aptasia. __________________ Rod "Cuby" Current Tank Info: 180 display, 100 gal DIY fuge/sump, DIY skimmer.

09/14/2007, 10:03 AM	#10
HBtank Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,957	I doubt very much that the bottom two pics are Paly's. Look how bad they are stinging the Zoas next to them, every one is cured up on the edge and not doing very well. They must be a pest anenome, what type is irrelevant, only the fact that they are doing damage. The top is definately an aip. Get rid of them all. __________________ 80g Aiptasia dominated reef tank.. with fish and now a bunch of berghia! Current Tank Info: 80g tank, re-starting a reef after a zoanthid nudibranch plauge, followed by months of steady and unstoppable STN/RTN, crashed; stayed FOWLR for a couple years, currently an aiptasia dominated reef tank with fishies and BERGHIA Last edited by HBtank; 09/14/2007 at 10:09 AM.

09/14/2007, 10:08 AM	#11
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	You got a point HBTank. That was something that I overlooked. But they do look like long tentacled polyps of some sort. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

09/14/2007, 10:47 AM	#12
customanimalart Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kissimmee Florida Posts: 636	thanks for your replies everyone. The green ones, next to the RPE polyps, are not majano, as I know what those look like as I have had two of them before. They aren't a polyp either because they shrink right back into their holes if they are touched, just like an anemone. If it was a polyp, wouldn't it just close rather than "run" into its hole? laslo-thanks for letting me know not to scrape or cut them off. I REALLY had been thinking about it. I just could never grab it with the tongs. One thing I haven't done is turn off all my powerheads and skimmer when I try to inject them. I will give that a shot before I move to another method. How long should I keep the skimmer off afterwards?? I think a few peppermint shirimp are in my near future. =) __________________ Darn aiptasia!!! Current Tank Info: 55g reef, 12g QT, and 55g frag tank.

09/14/2007, 12:22 PM	#13
seapug Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 4980 ft. Posts: 7,954 Blog Entries: 1	I use Aptasia Control (looks like Kalk paste) with pretty good success on mine, and I've had some big ones. Turn off your powerheads and completely coat the big ones and let it sit for 1/2 hour. Some can be in tough spots but you'll eventually get them. __________________ insert clever saying here. Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.

09/14/2007, 01:41 PM	#14
customanimalart Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kissimmee Florida Posts: 636	I don't have any kalkwasser, but I do have another calcium supplement powder. Can I make a paste with that or does it need to be kalkwasser? And after a half hour, what do I do with the paste? Do I leave it on or scrape it off or what? __________________ Darn aiptasia!!! Current Tank Info: 55g reef, 12g QT, and 55g frag tank.

09/14/2007, 02:28 PM	#15
fezza101 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ipswich Posts: 44	i bought 2 aptasia eating file fish. Gone in a day =O)

09/14/2007, 02:54 PM	#17
customanimalart Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kissimmee Florida Posts: 636	so can I make it using sea chem reef advantage calcium? It is just sitting in my cabinet as I don't even use it. I use C-balance. __________________ Darn aiptasia!!! Current Tank Info: 55g reef, 12g QT, and 55g frag tank.