Jaubert's Method, the "Monaco System"

likhten · 10/12/2007, 09:43 AM

Try to open dispute with Jaubert's Method, the "Monaco System"
Did anybody have experience with it?
Please let me know? Itâ€™s looks wry interesting.
United States Patent 4995980
Thanks

Chaotic Reefer4u · 10/12/2007, 11:08 AM

do you have a link to the method site?
i've never heard of it before, Hmmm...

bach2pilot · 10/12/2007, 11:16 AM

Is that the system where you have a big open space under your sand bed? You make a plenum with egg crates/PVC/ and window screen?

If it is - I had it for over a year and my nitrates never got below 10 ppm. I ripped it out, went DSB/refugium and my nitrates went to zero. IMO, it no workee.

seapug · 10/12/2007, 11:37 AM

It's the classic DSB/plenum setup using large open sandbed & minimal rock. Can work well on large tanks but, in my opinion, it looks a bit odd on tanks less than a couple hundred gallons. Also takes a long time to establish. There's a lot written about it in the Reef Aquarium Books.

kysard1 · 10/12/2007, 01:45 PM

He claimed you didn't need to make Ca or Alk additions with a plenum. This was proven wrong and he recanted several years later.

I think his success was with an open system meaning he had frequent fresh sea-water water changes.

I get much lower nitrates without a plenum and 3 inches of sugar sized sand.

barbra · 10/12/2007, 01:55 PM

Jaubert's system was widely hailed years ago, but it has been difficult for the home hobbyist to duplicate the results since it must be done EXACTLY the way Jaubert described. I believe that most who tried have since removed the plenum.

10/12/2007, 09:43 AM	#1
likhten Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 96	Jaubert's Method, the "Monaco System" Try to open dispute with Jaubert's Method, the "Monaco System" Did anybody have experience with it? Please let me know? Itâ€™s looks wry interesting. United States Patent 4995980 Thanks

10/12/2007, 11:08 AM	#2
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10/12/2007, 11:37 AM	#4
seapug Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 4980 ft. Posts: 7,954 Blog Entries: 1	It's the classic DSB/plenum setup using large open sandbed & minimal rock. Can work well on large tanks but, in my opinion, it looks a bit odd on tanks less than a couple hundred gallons. Also takes a long time to establish. There's a lot written about it in the Reef Aquarium Books. __________________ insert clever saying here. Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.

10/12/2007, 11:16 AM	#3
bach2pilot Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 251	Is that the system where you have a big open space under your sand bed? You make a plenum with egg crates/PVC/ and window screen? If it is - I had it for over a year and my nitrates never got below 10 ppm. I ripped it out, went DSB/refugium and my nitrates went to zero. IMO, it no workee.

10/12/2007, 01:45 PM	#5
kysard1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SE PA Posts: 827	He claimed you didn't need to make Ca or Alk additions with a plenum. This was proven wrong and he recanted several years later. I think his success was with an open system meaning he had frequent fresh sea-water water changes. I get much lower nitrates without a plenum and 3 inches of sugar sized sand.

10/12/2007, 01:55 PM	#6
barbra Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Va Beach, VA Posts: 1,408	Jaubert's system was widely hailed years ago, but it has been difficult for the home hobbyist to duplicate the results since it must be done EXACTLY the way Jaubert described. I believe that most who tried have since removed the plenum.