mangrove tree in reef tank?

cwilson · 11/12/2007, 02:47 PM

what kind of special care, if anyhing do they need? an LFS that used to be by me had one and it was SO cool

other than strong lights

ANY information would be great! preferred substrate, water parameters, lil' critters that like living with them. anything. thanks in advance everyone!

NealNano · 11/12/2007, 09:27 PM

Miracle mud is the best for growing mangroves but sand or araginite will do. Needs lots of light to grow well pc t5 or hqi works well. Also grows very slow but gets big so be ready.

cwilson · 11/12/2007, 09:50 PM

thanks! ill look into that mud stuff

yeah, the one at the LFS had to be at least 3 feet tall. it was so cool.

the tank would be 24"X24"X17" and kind of jsut the mangrove and a few things down there. the light would be a 250W halide.

how soon would the tree outgrow the tank. less than... i dont know, 2 or 3 years?

landlord · 11/13/2007, 05:47 AM

argh, that what I get from reading last to first. Doubled

SCR · 11/13/2007, 07:56 AM

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mangrovetrees.htm

thor32766 · 11/13/2007, 07:57 AM

great link!

cwilson · 11/13/2007, 02:35 PM

thanks for the link!

ryan_paskadi · 11/13/2007, 02:40 PM

there is lots of info on mangroves out there....be careful I have read they have strong roots and can crack a tank or sump. I have also read that the best way to keep them is in a rubbermain container converted into a sump...I have no experience with them myself tho

LobsterOfJustice · 11/13/2007, 03:58 PM

I've never been convinced growing mangroves in a tank is a great idea. By "gets big" I dont think he meant three feet.... think more along the size of full size tree.

They also get rid of excess salt by secreting it on their leaves, which need to be misted clean just about daily.

seattownreefer · 11/13/2007, 04:15 PM

you need to also keep your magnesium up to around 1400ppm; mangroves use it to secrete freshwater from saltwater

cwilson · 11/14/2007, 08:47 AM

yeah, I know they are pretty much "real" trees. adn i hate to be the "i-dont-plan-for-the-future" aquarist, but what do you do when they get that big? honestly?

also, thanks to everyone who gave info on what specifically to do with water parameters and all that. and now that i think about it, the mangrove in the LFS wasnt kept in a typical glass tank.

maybe im getting into more than its worth. i suppose i could always jsut by a fake plant and put it next to the tank

DrBegalke · 11/14/2007, 12:39 PM

they are very slow growing... maybe a couple/few of inches a year.

11/12/2007, 02:47 PM	#1
cwilson Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 523	mangrove tree in reef tank? what kind of special care, if anyhing do they need? an LFS that used to be by me had one and it was SO cool other than strong lights ANY information would be great! preferred substrate, water parameters, lil' critters that like living with them. anything. thanks in advance everyone!

11/13/2007, 05:47 AM	#4
landlord Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 1,937	argh, that what I get from reading last to first. Doubled __________________ Forget the Turtle Man, you got the Coral Man Live Action Fragging! Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon SPS Reef (Sump, Fuge, Skimmer, CX reactor, Chemical filtration, Overflow) by Lifereef, 2x400W 20K Radiums on IceCaps, 2x39W T5 "For fun", RK2, 4x Tunze 6055, Aqua Logic 1/3 HP Chiller, DIY RO/DI ATO 2-Part via Litermeter. Lotsa Clownfish

11/13/2007, 07:57 AM	#6
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11/13/2007, 03:58 PM	#9
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	I've never been convinced growing mangroves in a tank is a great idea. By "gets big" I dont think he meant three feet.... think more along the size of full size tree. They also get rid of excess salt by secreting it on their leaves, which need to be misted clean just about daily. __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

11/14/2007, 12:39 PM	#12
DrBegalke Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix area, AZ Posts: 2,599	they are very slow growing... maybe a couple/few of inches a year. __________________ ~Jason Begalke Current Tank Info: Latest project: JBJ Cubey

11/12/2007, 09:27 PM	#2
NealNano Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 764	Miracle mud is the best for growing mangroves but sand or araginite will do. Needs lots of light to grow well pc t5 or hqi works well. Also grows very slow but gets big so be ready.

11/12/2007, 09:50 PM	#3
cwilson Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 523	thanks! ill look into that mud stuff yeah, the one at the LFS had to be at least 3 feet tall. it was so cool. the tank would be 24"X24"X17" and kind of jsut the mangrove and a few things down there. the light would be a 250W halide. how soon would the tree outgrow the tank. less than... i dont know, 2 or 3 years?

11/13/2007, 07:56 AM	#5
SCR Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central, Fl Posts: 708	http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mangrovetrees.htm

11/13/2007, 02:35 PM	#7
cwilson Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 523	thanks for the link!

11/13/2007, 02:40 PM	#8
ryan_paskadi Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: las cruces, nm Posts: 870	there is lots of info on mangroves out there....be careful I have read they have strong roots and can crack a tank or sump. I have also read that the best way to keep them is in a rubbermain container converted into a sump...I have no experience with them myself tho

11/13/2007, 04:15 PM	#10
seattownreefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: seattle Posts: 121	you need to also keep your magnesium up to around 1400ppm; mangroves use it to secrete freshwater from saltwater

11/14/2007, 08:47 AM	#11
cwilson Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 523	yeah, I know they are pretty much "real" trees. adn i hate to be the "i-dont-plan-for-the-future" aquarist, but what do you do when they get that big? honestly? also, thanks to everyone who gave info on what specifically to do with water parameters and all that. and now that i think about it, the mangrove in the LFS wasnt kept in a typical glass tank. maybe im getting into more than its worth. i suppose i could always jsut by a fake plant and put it next to the tank