Sick tank

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 06:15 PM

Guys, i have a problem.

Have a 30g M-tank Nano, over a year old
all params are fine.

first hippo got some ick, it comes and goes for a about a month, maybe a bit longer.

then 3 other fish died, i didnt notice any ick on the other fish.

two days ago i noticed white spots on the clown fish, not the same as on the hippo, more like powder looking but white. Today he died.

Whats wrong? What should I do?

Hypo · 11/15/2007, 06:24 PM

first i tink params are fine is not good statment to make on this website, i tink u must porvide all number as they apearing in test kit so people can help,

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 06:30 PM

ok, you right

all salifert test:

ph: 8.2ppm
ammon,: 0
niterite: 0
niterate: 0-5
temp. 78-79
salinity: 1.022
Ca - 420
alk - 9.6

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 08:02 PM

anyone?

usmc121581 · 11/15/2007, 08:55 PM

Ick could be induced by stress of the fish. Are there any fish in there now. If not I would leave it fishless for 30 (I think) Once the ick fry hatch they need to find a host in 24 hrs. If not they die.You could also get a UV sterilizer.

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 09:09 PM

not anymore, hippo is the one fish in the tank now

usmc121581 · 11/15/2007, 09:16 PM

Has he stopped eating? if not dont let him. Soak food in Aqua garlic flavored stuff(Sry forgot name)

usmc121581 · 11/15/2007, 09:16 PM

What other things are in the tank?

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 09:23 PM

no, he's eating just fine.

in the tank some polyp corals, red rose anemone, pistol shimp, banded coral shrimp, some hermits. thats it.

usmc121581 · 11/15/2007, 09:28 PM

Try catching him and giving him a freshwater dip. I would say lower salinty but corals and inverts wouldnt like that to much.

volk23 · 11/15/2007, 09:40 PM

i was just reading some info, hopefully related

maybe i should try the garlic soaked norri.

sruiz · 11/15/2007, 10:37 PM

Ok first let me tell you that the TANG 5-0 is coming. Many people will tell you that the tang is too small to keep in a 30 gallon, even if he is small. That tang will grow quickly. the other thing i noticed is that you said you had 4 other fish in the tank with it. With that many fish its possible that the fish could be getting stressed out. When a fish gets stressed out its harder for it to fight off ich. What were the 3 fish that died??
I would take it easy on the fish get a qt tank and do hyposalinity.Don't waste your time with the junk they try to sell you for ich. And get some cleaner shrimp instead of fish now.
Good Luck

sruiz · 11/15/2007, 10:39 PM

I read a good article about the ich lifespan on about.com

Treef · 11/15/2007, 11:03 PM

Kent Garlic Xtreme is a good item to use, you can soak the food in it or put a drop into the tank.

11/15/2007, 06:15 PM	#1
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	Sick tank Guys, i have a problem. Have a 30g M-tank Nano, over a year old all params are fine. first hippo got some ick, it comes and goes for a about a month, maybe a bit longer. then 3 other fish died, i didnt notice any ick on the other fish. two days ago i noticed white spots on the clown fish, not the same as on the hippo, more like powder looking but white. Today he died. Whats wrong? What should I do?

11/15/2007, 08:55 PM	#5
usmc121581 Where am I? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Abingdon, maryland Posts: 1,671 Blog Entries: 1	Ick could be induced by stress of the fish. Are there any fish in there now. If not I would leave it fishless for 30 (I think) Once the ick fry hatch they need to find a host in 24 hrs. If not they die.You could also get a UV sterilizer. __________________ I prefer not to think before I speak, I like to be just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth. Current Tank Info: I have a 180 gal mostly LPS corals, it contains 1 Val. Tang, 1 yellow striped clown fish, 3 percula clownfish, a blood shrimp, cleaner shrimp and a sand shifting goby, 5 pajama cardinals, 1 green chromis. Also a 75 gal. sump/fug.

11/15/2007, 09:16 PM	#7
usmc121581 Where am I? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Abingdon, maryland Posts: 1,671 Blog Entries: 1	Has he stopped eating? if not dont let him. Soak food in Aqua garlic flavored stuff(Sry forgot name) __________________ I prefer not to think before I speak, I like to be just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth. Current Tank Info: I have a 180 gal mostly LPS corals, it contains 1 Val. Tang, 1 yellow striped clown fish, 3 percula clownfish, a blood shrimp, cleaner shrimp and a sand shifting goby, 5 pajama cardinals, 1 green chromis. Also a 75 gal. sump/fug.

11/15/2007, 09:16 PM	#8
usmc121581 Where am I? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Abingdon, maryland Posts: 1,671 Blog Entries: 1	What other things are in the tank? __________________ I prefer not to think before I speak, I like to be just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth. Current Tank Info: I have a 180 gal mostly LPS corals, it contains 1 Val. Tang, 1 yellow striped clown fish, 3 percula clownfish, a blood shrimp, cleaner shrimp and a sand shifting goby, 5 pajama cardinals, 1 green chromis. Also a 75 gal. sump/fug.

11/15/2007, 09:28 PM	#10
usmc121581 Where am I? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Abingdon, maryland Posts: 1,671 Blog Entries: 1	Try catching him and giving him a freshwater dip. I would say lower salinty but corals and inverts wouldnt like that to much. __________________ I prefer not to think before I speak, I like to be just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth. Current Tank Info: I have a 180 gal mostly LPS corals, it contains 1 Val. Tang, 1 yellow striped clown fish, 3 percula clownfish, a blood shrimp, cleaner shrimp and a sand shifting goby, 5 pajama cardinals, 1 green chromis. Also a 75 gal. sump/fug.

11/15/2007, 06:24 PM	#2
Hypo Moved On Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 77	first i tink params are fine is not good statment to make on this website, i tink u must porvide all number as they apearing in test kit so people can help,

11/15/2007, 06:30 PM	#3
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	ok, you right all salifert test: ph: 8.2ppm ammon,: 0 niterite: 0 niterate: 0-5 temp. 78-79 salinity: 1.022 Ca - 420 alk - 9.6

11/15/2007, 08:02 PM	#4
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	anyone?

11/15/2007, 09:09 PM	#6
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	not anymore, hippo is the one fish in the tank now

11/15/2007, 09:23 PM	#9
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	no, he's eating just fine. in the tank some polyp corals, red rose anemone, pistol shimp, banded coral shrimp, some hermits. thats it.

11/15/2007, 09:40 PM	#11
volk23 Reefer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: East Brunswick, NJ Posts: 488	i was just reading some info, hopefully related maybe i should try the garlic soaked norri.

11/15/2007, 10:37 PM	#12
sruiz Reef'R Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Searching... Posts: 1,381	Ok first let me tell you that the TANG 5-0 is coming. Many people will tell you that the tang is too small to keep in a 30 gallon, even if he is small. That tang will grow quickly. the other thing i noticed is that you said you had 4 other fish in the tank with it. With that many fish its possible that the fish could be getting stressed out. When a fish gets stressed out its harder for it to fight off ich. What were the 3 fish that died?? I would take it easy on the fish get a qt tank and do hyposalinity.Don't waste your time with the junk they try to sell you for ich. And get some cleaner shrimp instead of fish now. Good Luck __________________ Don't forget your water change.

11/15/2007, 10:39 PM	#13
sruiz Reef'R Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Searching... Posts: 1,381	I read a good article about the ich lifespan on about.com __________________ Don't forget your water change.

11/15/2007, 11:03 PM	#14
Treef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 70	Kent Garlic Xtreme is a good item to use, you can soak the food in it or put a drop into the tank. __________________ My hands smell like algae... Current Tank Info: 20G mixed reef Last edited by Treef; 11/15/2007 at 11:08 PM.