5ftx2ftx2ft Stock List - Overstocked?

r0cksteady · 12/11/2007, 06:29 PM

Hi All,

Have started a 5ftx2ftx2ft and am just wondering purely from a bio-load and stocking point of view if the tank would be overpopulated. I have only got about 5 of the fish that the moment but just wanting to get a general idea as to when I am nearing the limit.
This is also the proposed order I was considering introducing the critters. I currently have 190lbs of live rock, 6" of DSB, a sump with a refugium. Thanks

BLENNIES
1 x Jewelled Rockskipper \ Lawnmower Blenny (Salarias fasciatus) - 13cm

CLOWNFISH
2 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - 9cm
2 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var) - 9cm

COWFISH
1 x Longhorn Cowfish (Lactoria cornuta) - 46cm

ANGELFISH
1 x Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula) - 10cm
1 x Regal Angelfish (Pygoplites diacanthus) - 25cm
1 x Emperor Angelfish (Pomacanthus imperator) - 38cm

GOBIES
2 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus) - (Add later after tank is established) 3.5 x2
2 x Yellow Clown Goby (Gobiodon okinawae) - (Add later after tank is established) 3.5 x 2

DRAGONETS (Add later after tank is established)
2 x Male/Female Pair of Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus splendidus, Synchiropus splendidus) - Need lots of fauna ie. Copepods to eat. - 8cm x 2

WRASSE
1 x Harlequin Tuskfish (Choerodon fasciatus) - 25cm

TRIGGERFISHES
1 x Niger Triggerfish (Odonus niger) - 50cm

EEL
1 x Ribbon Eel (Rhinomuraena Quaestia) - May eat Clown Goby's. - 1.2m

Mike7 · 12/11/2007, 06:58 PM

Nice fish, but I hear 18 is to many.

r0cksteady · 12/11/2007, 07:02 PM

Actually found out I cant have the 4 clowns as the 2 I currently have are established in the magnifica so thats two fish off the list.

NirvanaFan · 12/11/2007, 07:08 PM

Your trigger and your wrasse will eat all snails and crabs in your clean up crew probably. LiveAquaria also says that triggers are not compatible with dragonettes.

If your cowfish gets really stressed it can release toxins that will wipe out your tank.

The eel will also take out any of the smaller fish (blennies, gobies, and mandarins)

r0cksteady · 12/11/2007, 07:19 PM

How many fish should I loose to be safe within the boundary if im down to 16

r0cksteady · 12/11/2007, 07:21 PM

Just wanting to focus on the bioload vs stocking levels rather than compatibility etc.

Mike7 · 12/11/2007, 07:37 PM

I've been told 10 fish for my 75 gal. I think if they are larger adult fish it should be less. My tank is overstocked right now.

bertoni · 12/11/2007, 07:40 PM

I think 10 is too many for a 75g, depending on the fish. Some of the fish on this list get very large.

I'd start by picking the one or two fish that I wanted the most, and working from there. Many of those fish are not reef-safe, if that's an issue.

r0cksteady · 12/11/2007, 08:26 PM

Sorry but were talking about a 150 gal tank not at 75 gal. So am I to assume the list is ok or overpopulated with 16 listed?

bertoni · 12/11/2007, 08:29 PM

It's overpopulated, in my opinion. Some of those fish get very big.

BangkokMatt · 12/11/2007, 09:10 PM

IMO you have too many big fish on the list. Although an empty 150g may look big, when you add large animals you see that its not so big after all.
I would leave the regal and emperor angel, the trigger and the eel. Leave the Cowfish until you have more experience. You don't want that going wrong in your tank.
You can always add the above mentioned fish when you get your 450g

K' Family Reef · 12/11/2007, 09:31 PM

how does the cowfish get along w/ everything???

here is a link about that fish if you are interested
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1260410

regards

12/11/2007, 06:29 PM	#1
r0cksteady Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 379	5ftx2ftx2ft Stock List - Overstocked? Hi All, Have started a 5ftx2ftx2ft and am just wondering purely from a bio-load and stocking point of view if the tank would be overpopulated. I have only got about 5 of the fish that the moment but just wanting to get a general idea as to when I am nearing the limit. This is also the proposed order I was considering introducing the critters. I currently have 190lbs of live rock, 6" of DSB, a sump with a refugium. Thanks BLENNIES 1 x Jewelled Rockskipper \ Lawnmower Blenny (Salarias fasciatus) - 13cm CLOWNFISH 2 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - 9cm 2 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var) - 9cm COWFISH 1 x Longhorn Cowfish (Lactoria cornuta) - 46cm ANGELFISH 1 x Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula) - 10cm 1 x Regal Angelfish (Pygoplites diacanthus) - 25cm 1 x Emperor Angelfish (Pomacanthus imperator) - 38cm GOBIES 2 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus) - (Add later after tank is established) 3.5 x2 2 x Yellow Clown Goby (Gobiodon okinawae) - (Add later after tank is established) 3.5 x 2 DRAGONETS (Add later after tank is established) 2 x Male/Female Pair of Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus splendidus, Synchiropus splendidus) - Need lots of fauna ie. Copepods to eat. - 8cm x 2 WRASSE 1 x Harlequin Tuskfish (Choerodon fasciatus) - 25cm TRIGGERFISHES 1 x Niger Triggerfish (Odonus niger) - 50cm EEL 1 x Ribbon Eel (Rhinomuraena Quaestia) - May eat Clown Goby's. - 1.2m

12/11/2007, 06:58 PM	#2
Mike7 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Irvine California USA Posts: 62	Nice fish, but I hear 18 is to many. __________________ "You must unlearn what you have learned." "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will..." Current Tank Info: 48" wide 27" tall 75 gal. Live sand, Live rock, good lighting, 25 gal sump and refugium filter

12/11/2007, 07:02 PM	#3
r0cksteady Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 379	Actually found out I cant have the 4 clowns as the 2 I currently have are established in the magnifica so thats two fish off the list. __________________ Jason A question never asked, is a question never answered. Two people attempting something differently, doesn't make one of them wrong

12/11/2007, 07:19 PM	#5
r0cksteady Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 379	How many fish should I loose to be safe within the boundary if im down to 16 __________________ Jason A question never asked, is a question never answered. Two people attempting something differently, doesn't make one of them wrong

12/11/2007, 07:21 PM	#6
r0cksteady Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 379	Just wanting to focus on the bioload vs stocking levels rather than compatibility etc. __________________ Jason A question never asked, is a question never answered. Two people attempting something differently, doesn't make one of them wrong

12/11/2007, 07:08 PM	#4
NirvanaFan Reef Ninja Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,280	Your trigger and your wrasse will eat all snails and crabs in your clean up crew probably. LiveAquaria also says that triggers are not compatible with dragonettes. If your cowfish gets really stressed it can release toxins that will wipe out your tank. The eel will also take out any of the smaller fish (blennies, gobies, and mandarins)

12/11/2007, 07:37 PM	#7
Mike7 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Irvine California USA Posts: 62	I've been told 10 fish for my 75 gal. I think if they are larger adult fish it should be less. My tank is overstocked right now. __________________ "You must unlearn what you have learned." "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will..." Current Tank Info: 48" wide 27" tall 75 gal. Live sand, Live rock, good lighting, 25 gal sump and refugium filter

12/11/2007, 07:40 PM	#8
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I think 10 is too many for a 75g, depending on the fish. Some of the fish on this list get very large. I'd start by picking the one or two fish that I wanted the most, and working from there. Many of those fish are not reef-safe, if that's an issue. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

12/11/2007, 08:26 PM	#9
r0cksteady Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 379	Sorry but were talking about a 150 gal tank not at 75 gal. So am I to assume the list is ok or overpopulated with 16 listed? __________________ Jason A question never asked, is a question never answered. Two people attempting something differently, doesn't make one of them wrong

12/11/2007, 08:29 PM	#10
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	It's overpopulated, in my opinion. Some of those fish get very big. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

12/11/2007, 09:10 PM	#11
BangkokMatt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Krung Thep Posts: 3,100	IMO you have too many big fish on the list. Although an empty 150g may look big, when you add large animals you see that its not so big after all. I would leave the regal and emperor angel, the trigger and the eel. Leave the Cowfish until you have more experience. You don't want that going wrong in your tank. You can always add the above mentioned fish when you get your 450g __________________ I've spent a lot of money on booze, women and fish. The rest I just squandered. Current Tank Info: 150g sps Reef (now FOWLR after a devastating crash due to chiller) , 2x400w MH (Icecap ballast, Lumenmax 2, Reeflux 12k SE), Deltec AP701, Grotech Tec III, Chiller, 2 x Tunze 6101, 1 x 6205 (+ m/c), bla bla

12/11/2007, 09:31 PM	#12
K' Family Reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,966	Re: 5ftx2ftx2ft Stock List - Overstocked? how does the cowfish get along w/ everything??? here is a link about that fish if you are interested http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1260410 regards