Salinity 1.009 question

svynx · 01/14/2008, 05:32 PM

I'm transfering a few of my fish into a QT tank b/c of ick. Can a skunk cleaner shrimp survive the hyposalinity? I thought about putting one in with the fish just as an added possible aid to get rid of the ick.
I'm going to be transfering tomorrow (the water was just mixed and I want the parameters to be as close to the display tank as possible) so any help will be, well, helpfull.
Thanks

Cope · 01/14/2008, 05:39 PM

I've read that inverts can not survive hyopsalinity?

ledford1 · 01/14/2008, 05:51 PM

No, I would not put a shrimp in the hypo-ed QT - hypo kills inverts.

tmz · 01/14/2008, 11:41 PM

No, It will die. Doubful it eats the ich parasite but it does clean the fish of many other things.

ACBlinky · 01/15/2008, 12:47 AM

There was a post yesterday regarding the effectiveness of skunk cleaner shrimp in reducing ich -- apparently scientists have studied it, and ich has never been found in the stomach contents of these shrimp. I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that they don't actually remove embedded ich parasites; they do 'clean' the fish in other ways, but they're not an effective remedy for ich.

Additionally, hypo will kill any and all inverts -- this is why it works so well on ich. When you take the SG down to 1.009 the only things in the tank that will remain alive are the fish, and some bacteria.

Best of luck with the ich -- I've found hypo 100% successful, as long as you go the full six weeks. That time doesn't include the day(s) it takes to go from 1.025 to 1.009, or the three days it takes to raise the SG back up; only the days when the fish are actually in hypo count.

old salty · 01/15/2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by ACBlinky

Best of luck with the ich -- I've found hypo 100% successful, as long as you go the full six weeks. That time doesn't include the day(s) it takes to go from 1.025 to 1.009, or the three days it takes to raise the SG back up; only the days when the fish are actually in hypo count.

Read this several times and heed it.

Shooter7 · 01/15/2008, 09:41 AM

What old salty said...

svynx · 01/15/2008, 02:47 PM

Will do. Thanks a bunch. I'm heading for my LFS tomorrow to pick up the new tank (55G), and I started the QT yesterday. I tried to get the fish out last night, but there is too much rock for them to hide in. I guess it's time to change the rock formation anyway. I'll keep posting with the progress.
Thanks again everyone.

Shooter7 · 01/15/2008, 03:43 PM

No rock or sand in QT. Bare bottom, pieces of PVC for the fish to hide in...or some folks use plastic or clay pots.

tmz · 01/16/2008, 12:02 AM

No rock or sand in QT.

Never? Why not?

01/14/2008, 05:32 PM	#1
svynx Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mt. Wolf, PA Posts: 974	Salinity 1.009 question I'm transfering a few of my fish into a QT tank b/c of ick. Can a skunk cleaner shrimp survive the hyposalinity? I thought about putting one in with the fish just as an added possible aid to get rid of the ick. I'm going to be transfering tomorrow (the water was just mixed and I want the parameters to be as close to the display tank as possible) so any help will be, well, helpfull. Thanks __________________ "What?!? Haven't you ever seen someone work on an engine with an axe before?" Mythbusters Current Tank Info: Biocube 29, Aurora puck LED

01/14/2008, 05:39 PM	#2
Cope Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In deep water (SLT CA) Posts: 595	I've read that inverts can not survive hyopsalinity? __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Current Tank Info: Soon to be 500 gallon mixed reef!

01/14/2008, 11:41 PM	#4
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	No, It will die. Doubful it eats the ich parasite but it does clean the fish of many other things. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

01/15/2008, 12:47 AM	#5
ACBlinky Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada Posts: 4,954 Blog Entries: 20	There was a post yesterday regarding the effectiveness of skunk cleaner shrimp in reducing ich -- apparently scientists have studied it, and ich has never been found in the stomach contents of these shrimp. I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that they don't actually remove embedded ich parasites; they do 'clean' the fish in other ways, but they're not an effective remedy for ich. Additionally, hypo will kill any and all inverts -- this is why it works so well on ich. When you take the SG down to 1.009 the only things in the tank that will remain alive are the fish, and some bacteria. Best of luck with the ich -- I've found hypo 100% successful, as long as you go the full six weeks. That time doesn't include the day(s) it takes to go from 1.025 to 1.009, or the three days it takes to raise the SG back up; only the days when the fish are actually in hypo count. __________________ "The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea." - Isak Dinesen Current Tank Info: 150g mixed reef, 30g sump/refugium, LED lighting, 100lbs LR, coral beauty, flame angel, blue & yellow tangs, gobies, damsels, 6-line wrasse, lawnmower blenny, dottyback, clown pair, rabbitfish, shrimp, crabs, CUC.

01/15/2008, 09:41 AM	#7
Shooter7 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tolono, IL Posts: 6,754	What old salty said... __________________ Dave Current Tank Info: 10 years salty - standard 29g reef - moved from 120 gal reef, 2x250w Reeflux 10k's on ARO electronics and VHO super actinics on Icecap ballast, 2xTunze 6060, MSX 200 skimmer, GEO 612 Ca reactor, mag 12 return

01/14/2008, 05:51 PM	#3
ledford1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 2,241	No, I would not put a shrimp in the hypo-ed QT - hypo kills inverts.

01/15/2008, 02:47 PM	#8
svynx Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mt. Wolf, PA Posts: 974	Will do. Thanks a bunch. I'm heading for my LFS tomorrow to pick up the new tank (55G), and I started the QT yesterday. I tried to get the fish out last night, but there is too much rock for them to hide in. I guess it's time to change the rock formation anyway. I'll keep posting with the progress. Thanks again everyone. __________________ "What?!? Haven't you ever seen someone work on an engine with an axe before?" Mythbusters Current Tank Info: Biocube 29, Aurora puck LED

01/15/2008, 03:43 PM	#9
Shooter7 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tolono, IL Posts: 6,754	No rock or sand in QT. Bare bottom, pieces of PVC for the fish to hide in...or some folks use plastic or clay pots. __________________ Dave Current Tank Info: 10 years salty - standard 29g reef - moved from 120 gal reef, 2x250w Reeflux 10k's on ARO electronics and VHO super actinics on Icecap ballast, 2xTunze 6060, MSX 200 skimmer, GEO 612 Ca reactor, mag 12 return

01/16/2008, 12:02 AM	#10
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	No rock or sand in QT. Never? Why not? __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.