fragging

skaterzero22 · 01/17/2008, 11:08 PM

how do you glue or epoxy a frag to a rock in your tank with it still wet? does tanking a frag out of water to let glue settle damage it? this is all a little unclear to me

BCreefmaker · 01/17/2008, 11:32 PM

some corals cane come right out of the water to be fragged mushrooms and such, other its best to keep them in the tank submerged and then just bring the rock the frag is attached to out of the water, but not the coral it self. then dry with a paper towel and attach. i find super glue works on wet surfaces, its one of the most common frag glues.

ahullsb · 01/17/2008, 11:38 PM

I take mine out of the water and let it cure for about a minute. I've never had any adverse effects with my corals.

Reefdiver77 · 01/17/2008, 11:40 PM

I also take mine out of the water to frag. Be sure and use super glue gel. It is much easier to use.

skaterzero22 · 01/17/2008, 11:51 PM

none of these gels are harmful to the tank?

reef_doug · 01/17/2008, 11:59 PM

I use a piece of live rock rubble and drill a hole about 1/4", fill it with super glue gel and insert frag. Wait 1 minute then return to tank.

I pick up the super glue gel at .99 cent store.

GARFVolunteer · 01/18/2008, 07:43 AM

CA glue is perfectly reef safe and sets up quickly under salt water.

1. Place a little CA glue on your finger(wear gloves) and hold it under water. A white film will cover the glue after a few seconds.

2. Smear the glue on the rock where you want to mount the coral.

3. Hold the base of the coral out of the water and place a little glue on it.

4. Place the base of the coral where you smeared the glue in step 2. Move the coral in a circular motion. You will see the two patches of glue starting to stick together. Once that happens hold it for about 20 seconds to let the glue set up.

The first few times you glue it can be difficult but after a few hundred it is a piece of cake...

I buy 20gm tubes of gel ($8) or 8 oz bottles of Maxi-cure thick CA glue ($30) at the local hobby stores. I usually do enough gluing to use an entire tube of glue at once so there really is not any waste...

Thanks

Scott

MiddletonMark · 01/18/2008, 10:51 AM

What kind of coral are you trying to glue?

IME, many softies, mushrooms, ricordia, and the like do not attach permanently with superglue - you will need an alternate attachment for those.

skaterzero22 · 01/18/2008, 10:58 AM

um it is a green star polyp frag

01/17/2008, 11:08 PM	#1
skaterzero22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 492	fragging how do you glue or epoxy a frag to a rock in your tank with it still wet? does tanking a frag out of water to let glue settle damage it? this is all a little unclear to me

01/17/2008, 11:32 PM	#2
BCreefmaker Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,129	some corals cane come right out of the water to be fragged mushrooms and such, other its best to keep them in the tank submerged and then just bring the rock the frag is attached to out of the water, but not the coral it self. then dry with a paper towel and attach. i find super glue works on wet surfaces, its one of the most common frag glues. __________________ To make apple pie from scratch, You must first create the universe.

01/17/2008, 11:38 PM	#3
ahullsb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: sacramento, ca Posts: 2,729	I take mine out of the water and let it cure for about a minute. I've never had any adverse effects with my corals. __________________ Andy Sacramento, CA Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef w/20 gallon sump/ER135/ 75 pounds of live rock, 4 in sandbed, 2 b&w ocellaris clowns, yellow watchman/pistol, rosy scaled wrasse, Mystery wrasse, Copperbanded Butterfly, Lighting 48" outer orbit 2 150 mh/ 4 t5 actinics

01/17/2008, 11:51 PM	#5
skaterzero22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 492	none of these gels are harmful to the tank? __________________ --Bryan Current Tank Info: Empty 125 sitting in my garage. Biocube 14

01/17/2008, 11:59 PM	#6
reef_doug Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hesperia/Apple Valley Posts: 3,814	I use a piece of live rock rubble and drill a hole about 1/4", fill it with super glue gel and insert frag. Wait 1 minute then return to tank. I pick up the super glue gel at .99 cent store. __________________ "If you have more than one tank in your livingroom, you might be a reefneck" Current Tank Info: 180r SoCal Creations, 75g SCC1M Sump, WM EcoBAK, NextReef SMR1, TropicMarin Salt, ACIII, 3x250w HQI Phoenix 14k, 2x140w Super Actinics, ATi BM250, Eheim 1262, Tunze 2x6100+7095, Tunze Osmolator, 6 stage RODI w/ Spectrapure MaxCap

01/17/2008, 11:40 PM	#4
Reefdiver77 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beech Bluff, TN Posts: 1,567	I also take mine out of the water to frag. Be sure and use super glue gel. It is much easier to use.

01/18/2008, 07:43 AM	#7
GARFVolunteer Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,108	CA glue is perfectly reef safe and sets up quickly under salt water. 1. Place a little CA glue on your finger(wear gloves) and hold it under water. A white film will cover the glue after a few seconds. 2. Smear the glue on the rock where you want to mount the coral. 3. Hold the base of the coral out of the water and place a little glue on it. 4. Place the base of the coral where you smeared the glue in step 2. Move the coral in a circular motion. You will see the two patches of glue starting to stick together. Once that happens hold it for about 20 seconds to let the glue set up. The first few times you glue it can be difficult but after a few hundred it is a piece of cake... I buy 20gm tubes of gel ($8) or 8 oz bottles of Maxi-cure thick CA glue ($30) at the local hobby stores. I usually do enough gluing to use an entire tube of glue at once so there really is not any waste... Thanks Scott __________________ Proud Member Idaho Marine Aquarium Society A fair and biased reef hobbyist. "If I were going to set up a tank, and I am going to make some people mad here, I would use VHOs" Dana Riddle 3/2/2007 Current Tank Info: Brand new 150 gallon tall Reef trying Bonsai method, 60 gallon soft coral tank (not GARF style).

01/18/2008, 10:51 AM	#8
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	What kind of coral are you trying to glue? IME, many softies, mushrooms, ricordia, and the like do not attach permanently with superglue - you will need an alternate attachment for those. __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

01/18/2008, 10:58 AM	#9
skaterzero22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 492	um it is a green star polyp frag __________________ --Bryan Current Tank Info: Empty 125 sitting in my garage. Biocube 14