Help Ocellaris clown cannot close it's mouth for the past 1.5wks & Doesn't eat?

dochou · 02/01/2008, 04:54 PM

Help Ocellaris clown cannot close it's mouth for the past 1.5wks & Doesn't eat?
What is wrong with him?
He is not going after food and just sits in the corner of the tank.
Need help fast.
Thanks

Roy G. Biv · 02/01/2008, 05:07 PM

1) You know if you do nothing, it will die.
2) There's almost nothing you can do.

I would catch him in a net and squeeze his head. Maybe it has lock jaw. Thats the best I can think of.

BTW. How is being a stork working out for you??

Twz · 02/01/2008, 05:17 PM

Hehe,
Sorry i am no help but i was watching discovery channel and there were fish doctors
mabey you should try and contact them

Ebisan · 02/01/2008, 05:36 PM

I hope you find a cure for your clown. Same thing happened to my 3 year old Clarkii. Mine died a week after.

ray22 · 02/01/2008, 05:56 PM

it happened to me with one of my fish , i caught the fish . and manually closed the fishes mouth with my finger , put him back in the water and he was fine .

cobra397 · 02/01/2008, 06:42 PM

not sure if its the same thing. Mine sit in the corner and also would not go after food. She used LOVE pellets , would gobble them up no problem. I believe now she got spooked one night and hit my eggcrate cover. I took her out and put her in QT. started a 2 day antibiotic treatment my fish store gave me.. lowered the salinity a little(still not sure i did that right?).. and started feeding her brine and mysis, the third day after a WEEK and a half of not eating she started to take one or two brine shrimp in. not sure about the mouth but maybe try to help her close it. I would def QT so you can shut off pumps and get food right to it.. GL>>>>

ManotheSea · 02/01/2008, 07:10 PM

This reminds me of something I ran into when I was looking up info for a recent thread about pods. Isopods are the predatory pods to keep out of our tanks. As opposed to Amphipods and Copepods that are beneficial to our tanks.

The Isopods will latch on to a fish and suck its blood. Sometimes they latch on to the outside of a fish while other times they go into the mouth of a fish. I have pictures of this that I will post in my thread for you.

I would catch the fish and look in its mouth for a parasitc Isopod. Its worth a shot. If you are lucky you might find an Isopod that you can remove with tweezers or forcepts and save the fish.

Check out the photos. Here is the link.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post11707227

Maybe its a long shot but it was the only thing I ever heard of that could cause the distress you describe.

LockeOak · 02/01/2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ManotheSea
This reminds me of something I ran into when I was looking up info for a recent thread about pods. Isopods are the predatory pods to keep out of our tanks.

Note that the term "isopod" is a phylogenic term (the body is flattened on the dorsal/ventral plane), and does not indicate how they feed. Most isopods are not parasitic and are the functional equivalent in our tanks of amphipods.

ManotheSea · 02/01/2008, 08:21 PM

Not according to Ronald L. Shimek, PhD. and many other researchers. They claim most Isopods are predatory and parasitic.

Freds · 02/01/2008, 09:25 PM

It could also have something lodged in it's mouth. Either way wet some papertowels in tank water and lay them on a table. Remove the fish and lay him on the wet papertowels. Wrap him so that only the front of his face is exposed, making sure the gills stay moist via the wet papertowels. Holding him down with one hand, use the other to inspect his mouth with tweezers. You may want to enlist the help of another person so that you can use two hands.

I've had to do this a few times and have never lost a fish during the procedure.

Twz · 02/01/2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freds
It could also have something lodged in it's mouth. Either way wet some papertowels in tank water and lay them on a table. Remove the fish and lay him on the wet papertowels. Wrap him so that only the front of his face is exposed, making sure the gills stay moist via the wet papertowels. Holding him down with one hand, use the other to inspect his mouth with tweezers. You may want to enlist the help of another person so that you can use two hands.

I've had to do this a few times and have never lost a fish during the procedure.

I can see it in my head and i think i would have to get some one els to do it
i would just feel so bad

ryan_paskadi · 02/02/2008, 02:01 AM

I have isopods and they are just like amphipods hanging out in the sediment.

Had this problem with a damsel when I cam back from vacation. did some major waterchanges and the fish was fine.

02/01/2008, 04:54 PM	#1
dochou Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Hillsborough, CA Posts: 564	Help Ocellaris clown cannot close it's mouth for the past 1.5wks & Doesn't eat? Help Ocellaris clown cannot close it's mouth for the past 1.5wks & Doesn't eat? What is wrong with him? He is not going after food and just sits in the corner of the tank. Need help fast. Thanks

02/01/2008, 05:56 PM	#5
ray22 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 362	it happened to me with one of my fish , i caught the fish . and manually closed the fishes mouth with my finger , put him back in the water and he was fine . __________________ 45gal Oceanic starphire tank outer orbit 250watt hqi , with t5's Tunze 6100 with wave control , mag7 for the sump return kalk reactor , refugium ro/di unit asm g3 skimmer ,

02/01/2008, 08:21 PM	#9
ManotheSea Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: FL Posts: 414	Not according to Ronald L. Shimek, PhD. and many other researchers. They claim most Isopods are predatory and parasitic. Last edited by ManotheSea; 02/01/2008 at 08:26 PM.

02/01/2008, 05:07 PM	#2
Roy G. Biv Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,646	1) You know if you do nothing, it will die. 2) There's almost nothing you can do. I would catch him in a net and squeeze his head. Maybe it has lock jaw. Thats the best I can think of. BTW. How is being a stork working out for you??

02/01/2008, 05:17 PM	#3
Twz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Edmonton Posts: 628	Hehe, Sorry i am no help but i was watching discovery channel and there were fish doctors mabey you should try and contact them

02/01/2008, 05:36 PM	#4
Ebisan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,141	I hope you find a cure for your clown. Same thing happened to my 3 year old Clarkii. Mine died a week after.

02/01/2008, 06:42 PM	#6
cobra397 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US> TN. Posts: 149	not sure if its the same thing. Mine sit in the corner and also would not go after food. She used LOVE pellets , would gobble them up no problem. I believe now she got spooked one night and hit my eggcrate cover. I took her out and put her in QT. started a 2 day antibiotic treatment my fish store gave me.. lowered the salinity a little(still not sure i did that right?).. and started feeding her brine and mysis, the third day after a WEEK and a half of not eating she started to take one or two brine shrimp in. not sure about the mouth but maybe try to help her close it. I would def QT so you can shut off pumps and get food right to it.. GL>>>>

02/01/2008, 07:10 PM	#7
ManotheSea Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: FL Posts: 414	This reminds me of something I ran into when I was looking up info for a recent thread about pods. Isopods are the predatory pods to keep out of our tanks. As opposed to Amphipods and Copepods that are beneficial to our tanks. The Isopods will latch on to a fish and suck its blood. Sometimes they latch on to the outside of a fish while other times they go into the mouth of a fish. I have pictures of this that I will post in my thread for you. I would catch the fish and look in its mouth for a parasitc Isopod. Its worth a shot. If you are lucky you might find an Isopod that you can remove with tweezers or forcepts and save the fish. Check out the photos. Here is the link. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post11707227 Maybe its a long shot but it was the only thing I ever heard of that could cause the distress you describe.

02/01/2008, 09:25 PM	#10
Freds Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	It could also have something lodged in it's mouth. Either way wet some papertowels in tank water and lay them on a table. Remove the fish and lay him on the wet papertowels. Wrap him so that only the front of his face is exposed, making sure the gills stay moist via the wet papertowels. Holding him down with one hand, use the other to inspect his mouth with tweezers. You may want to enlist the help of another person so that you can use two hands. I've had to do this a few times and have never lost a fish during the procedure.

02/02/2008, 02:01 AM	#12
ryan_paskadi Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: las cruces, nm Posts: 870	I have isopods and they are just like amphipods hanging out in the sediment. Had this problem with a damsel when I cam back from vacation. did some major waterchanges and the fish was fine.