pump fpr a closed loop 45G tall

gig · 02/04/2008, 09:48 AM

Wanting to turn my 45G tall tank into a closed loop system for more flow, especially the bottom of the tank.

This will be a FOWLR to house a couple of my "nippers" that I'll need to get out of my main system. Right now I have a CPR bak pak and a couple of powerheads in it. I'll also need to upgrade the lighting.

Looking for something under $100, perferably cheaper. Somthing I can plumb externally, like a Quiet One or a Mag...

Any suggestions?

gig · 02/04/2008, 01:41 PM

*cough*

dougchambers · 02/04/2008, 01:45 PM

We used to run a MAG7 with a Seaswirl on a CL for our 75g. It worked pretty well. There are various opinions on whether the MAGs should be run externally, but it worked well for years.

These days we run a 4200SEQ12 with an OM4-way, but that's a bit of overkill for what you are looking at.

-Doug

gig · 02/04/2008, 01:48 PM

thanks Doug, I don't want to go overboard, since this wont have corals andthose seaswirls are too damn expensive! Maybe the Quiet ones would be good, the only thing I dont like about MagDrives is that they run hot.

dougchambers · 02/04/2008, 02:10 PM

They do run a little hot. Some people love the QuietOne's. The one I tried for about a day was anything BUT quiet...

The Ocean Runner pumps have received some good press on the boards lately.

gig · 02/04/2008, 02:13 PM

I have one a Mag7 pump from my freshwater (RODI holding) to mixed water container. I have a QuietOne 6000 that I use to pump my mixed saltwater to my display (it drains the 30G container quite fast). I also have a Mag24 running my PM bullet skimmer.

I've heard of the Ocean Runners, I guess I am also looking for how much flow would be good for a 45G FOWLR.

kgross · 02/04/2008, 02:17 PM

I would use the QuietOne that you have rather than purchasing another pump. They seem to leak less than the mag pumps.
How much flow is good, well that is really hard to answer because it depends on how you setup the flow. Since it is a FOWLR setup. I would setup the tank so that it has a circular flow patern in the tank. Make as much of the water move clockwise as possible, since you don't need to worry much about any random flow for stony corals and the Quite one you have should do that fine. Just have multiple outlets from the pump in the corners all pushing in the clockwise direction.

Kim

gig · 02/04/2008, 02:22 PM

Thanks Kim, I had planed on putting 4 outputs in the back corners. essentially two pipes going down to the floor of the tank (it will be barebottom), with two outputs at the bottom and two at the top. I could then simply aim them generally in one direction to get a clockwise, or counterclockwise flow.

I'll probably invest in a new pump, since the QuietOne I have is spoken for

02/04/2008, 09:48 AM	#1
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	pump fpr a closed loop 45G tall Wanting to turn my 45G tall tank into a closed loop system for more flow, especially the bottom of the tank. This will be a FOWLR to house a couple of my "nippers" that I'll need to get out of my main system. Right now I have a CPR bak pak and a couple of powerheads in it. I'll also need to upgrade the lighting. Looking for something under $100, perferably cheaper. Somthing I can plumb externally, like a Quiet One or a Mag... Any suggestions? __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

02/04/2008, 01:41 PM	#2
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	cough __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

02/04/2008, 01:48 PM	#4
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	thanks Doug, I don't want to go overboard, since this wont have corals andthose seaswirls are too damn expensive! Maybe the Quiet ones would be good, the only thing I dont like about MagDrives is that they run hot. __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

02/04/2008, 02:13 PM	#6
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	I have one a Mag7 pump from my freshwater (RODI holding) to mixed water container. I have a QuietOne 6000 that I use to pump my mixed saltwater to my display (it drains the 30G container quite fast). I also have a Mag24 running my PM bullet skimmer. I've heard of the Ocean Runners, I guess I am also looking for how much flow would be good for a 45G FOWLR. __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

02/04/2008, 02:17 PM	#7
kgross Premium Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Nampa, ID Posts: 5,870	I would use the QuietOne that you have rather than purchasing another pump. They seem to leak less than the mag pumps. How much flow is good, well that is really hard to answer because it depends on how you setup the flow. Since it is a FOWLR setup. I would setup the tank so that it has a circular flow patern in the tank. Make as much of the water move clockwise as possible, since you don't need to worry much about any random flow for stony corals and the Quite one you have should do that fine. Just have multiple outlets from the pump in the corners all pushing in the clockwise direction. Kim __________________ Proud Member of the Idaho Marine Aquarium Society America will only be the Land of the Free as long as it is the Home of the Brave. Current Tank Info: AGA 180gallon tank, VHO/MH lighting, DSB, calcium reactor, Also a 7 Gallon Nano softy tank, and a 32 gallon cube

02/04/2008, 01:45 PM	#3
dougchambers Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,882	We used to run a MAG7 with a Seaswirl on a CL for our 75g. It worked pretty well. There are various opinions on whether the MAGs should be run externally, but it worked well for years. These days we run a 4200SEQ12 with an OM4-way, but that's a bit of overkill for what you are looking at. -Doug

02/04/2008, 02:10 PM	#5
dougchambers Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,882	They do run a little hot. Some people love the QuietOne's. The one I tried for about a day was anything BUT quiet... The Ocean Runner pumps have received some good press on the boards lately.

02/04/2008, 02:22 PM	#8
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	Thanks Kim, I had planed on putting 4 outputs in the back corners. essentially two pipes going down to the floor of the tank (it will be barebottom), with two outputs at the bottom and two at the top. I could then simply aim them generally in one direction to get a clockwise, or counterclockwise flow. I'll probably invest in a new pump, since the QuietOne I have is spoken for __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.