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Unread 02/12/2008, 08:46 PM   #1
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Okay 1 week and this is my tests help..

I have had my 72 gallon bow front set up for one week now and I tested the water today.....

0 Ammona 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 8.4 Ph (The same as the first day)

Now when I started the tank my buddy gave me 100 pounds a free live rock that has been in his reef tank for 6 years. I am doing a FOWLR tank. I do not mind waiting for a cycle but I am going to have one? He said he didnt think so because of my live rock. So what do you guys and gals think?

I put new sand on the bottom of the tank and the rock on top of it.....

Any input would be great...

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Unread 02/12/2008, 08:56 PM   #2
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if that rock went directly from his tank to your tank I doubt you will see any spike in ammonia or nitrates
I still would wait another week before adding live things. There will be some cycling of bacteria in the substrate.


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Unread 02/12/2008, 08:58 PM   #3
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Yes it did go right from his tank to mine....Had a little hair alage but I got that under control by leaving the light off


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Unread 02/12/2008, 09:48 PM   #4
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Unread 02/12/2008, 09:53 PM   #5
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Any problem he had you may have and hair algea is one. Without LR and sand you wont see much spike.
You say FOWLR but are adding a SB. The type of fish really depend on type of tank you will have now.
But if his rock was fully cured you may get a cycle from dieoff on the rock.

With this said its a good guess without know your whl setup from amoun of LR and LS and all equipment use and water source?


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Unread 02/12/2008, 09:58 PM   #6
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110 pounds of live rock and 60 pounds of sand....Sorry what is a SB

I have a Wet Dry set up to run the tank with 4 power heads


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Unread 02/12/2008, 11:39 PM   #7
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SandBed.....and theres nothing wrong having a FO with a SB


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Unread 02/13/2008, 12:03 AM   #8
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Just wait a week b4 adding anything and you should be fine.


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Unread 02/13/2008, 07:20 AM   #9
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Great.....I am thinking of adding a clean u crew, the rock I got had some anenmes (spelled wrong) on them so I feed them so zoo plankton 2 days ago and the readings have not changed....If that helps at all


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Unread 02/13/2008, 07:38 AM   #10
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the rock I got had some anenmes

I'd bet you have aptasias. Although they are anemones they are really pests. If you post a pic of them here we'll give you an id. Chances are you are going to want to get rid of them as soon as possible before they take over your tank.


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Unread 02/13/2008, 07:40 AM   #11
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From someone who setup from an existing tank ......Your really not gonna see a cycle. The one thing I can stress is get yourself plenty of flow. I started with 40 lbs established live rock and doubled the amount the only thing I didnt have was flow and when I turned on those power heads.....woah Tons of detritus....took a few for that to clean out


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Do the anemones look anything like the one in this link?

http://www.melevsreef.com/id/aiptasia.html


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Unread 02/13/2008, 09:36 AM   #13
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No it is very small and all white..it is anchored into a rock....a little hole in the rock, it might look like the last one on the picture but a lot smaller I will take a picture tonight when I get home and post it....


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Unread 02/13/2008, 09:49 AM   #14
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Ok first how you spell anemone is that and I bet it is aptasias and it may be white because it may be bleached ( looses its microalgae). Aptasias can be very small too.


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Unread 02/13/2008, 10:00 AM   #15
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Bob,

I would wait at least 30 days before adding anything else, but I like taking things slow. Usually if you just move live rock over from an established tank the difference in salinity, Ph, and lack of ammonia and nitrites for the current level of bacteria will cause a slight die-back.

Many people like to add fish to increase the food for bacteria, but I am old school and like to allow a tank to find its level then slowly increase the bio-load.


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Unread 02/13/2008, 10:05 AM   #16
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I will post a picture, should i pull it out with pliers or take the whole rock out, and then try to go at it


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Unread 02/13/2008, 10:12 AM   #17
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Okay I found a picture of it, the two are Glass Anemones. So what should I do with them


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Unread 02/13/2008, 10:21 AM   #18
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Inject them with lemon juice.

P.S. sorry about calling you Bob. I actually cut and pasted my reply to an open word document to spell check it and I didn't erase the whole letter to a buddy of mine. LOL


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Unread 02/13/2008, 11:11 AM   #19
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From someone who setup from an existing tank ......Your really not gonna see a cycle
agreed ... provided the LR was not out of the water for more than an hour or two

be patient, go slowly, and don't worry if you don't see too much of a spike


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Unread 02/13/2008, 11:53 AM   #20
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Well my name is Bob anyway so there is no difference....that helps and no the rock was out of the water for about 10 seconds since we transported it in my water


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Unread 02/13/2008, 05:17 PM   #21
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Aptasias is a glass anemone but i bet you knew that. Kill it kill it kill it is all i have to say. You can pull all the rocks out and scrub the rocks with a clean brush and rinse in freash water. If its on one rock I bet its on more. After you do this though you will have to wait a month sence there will be die of after you rinse in the freash water to make shure all the Aptasias is gone.


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Unread 02/13/2008, 09:29 PM   #22
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Originally posted by pgaschulz
I will post a picture, should i pull it out with pliers or take the whole rock out, and then try to go at it
at this stage take out the whole rock and scrub it


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