Is Flame a big risk?

Jpergamo · 03/01/2008, 06:18 PM

would a flame angel be a big risk of picking at sps and other mixed corals in a 180? ive heard some horror stories but then heard they are perfectly safe...ive had a coral beauty for a long time with no problems and love the pygmys.

fancyfish · 03/01/2008, 06:23 PM

I have a cherub, a flame and a potters in my 180. I have mostly zoo's and lps. some mushrooms and two anemones. no sps and I have no problem. I have had the cherub for over 3 years and I have had the others for about one year.

Gools · 03/01/2008, 06:23 PM

your going to here both sides. It all depends on which one you get. He may be perfect or he may be the devil. I'm going to put one in a Q tank with some digi, and a few small frags and see what happens, unless I can find someone who is getting rid of one that was fine in a reef.

Jpergamo · 03/01/2008, 06:28 PM

good call ill QT him with a frag or 2 if i decide to go with him...anyone with some negatives to sway me the other way?

Bonebrake · 03/01/2008, 06:29 PM

I have a flame in a 90 and he recently started nipping at corals about one month ago and I have had him for a little over five months. The nipping is pretty harmless just the occasional peck at a clam and it will close up. No noticeable damage. I would assume even if you had a real nipper and had enough corals the buck would get passed around enough to not cause any real damage. Keep them well fed and they may be less apt to forage on their own.

Pepito · 03/01/2008, 06:35 PM

I would just ask if its worth the risk? They are awesome fish, but its like playing with matches imo

I think the QT with frags idea is a good one tho for sure.

By the way I did own one before in a 65 reef tank, so it was worth the risk to me. That said, it did very aggressively go after my lps corals only and was impossible to catch.

erendon · 03/01/2008, 06:48 PM

I had a Flame Angel in my 180, when it died I got a Coral Beauty angel now and I see it NIP at my SPS's every now and then. I wish I could put a Flame in there now but they would fight.
I see my Yellow Tangs nip at my SPS's more than the Angel.
I say go for it.

jadeguppy · 03/01/2008, 07:02 PM

I am wondering if the nipping is picking of pods in most cases or if they are doing real damage. I have seen my bi-color and coral beauty appear to nip at a coral, but I see no evidence of damage and have figured they must have been going after a pod.

AquamanE · 03/01/2008, 07:05 PM

ive had mine in my mixed, lps, softies, and some sps for a few months. like said before it harmlessly nips at things. then again so does my purple tank. no harm done. my lfs guys keeps telling me its a matter of time before i have to take him out. i will wait before getting a clam.

Beach Bum 70 · 03/01/2008, 07:25 PM

i have a 90 gal with SPS and zoos some LPS but also feed heavy to keep them happy and have had no problems I a Flame CB and MAle female watanbei in there

03/01/2008, 06:18 PM	#1
Jpergamo Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Queens NY Posts: 142	Is Flame a big risk? would a flame angel be a big risk of picking at sps and other mixed corals in a 180? ive heard some horror stories but then heard they are perfectly safe...ive had a coral beauty for a long time with no problems and love the pygmys. __________________ Put a sweater on babe, your gonna get ich. Current Tank Info: 180 aga RR/ DIY sump-fuge with cheato, aqua c EV 240 mag18 driven, mag 18 return, 2xKorilia 4. DIY light 4X39 T-5 actinic, 2x 400w 10k.

03/01/2008, 06:23 PM	#2
fancyfish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,418	I have a cherub, a flame and a potters in my 180. I have mostly zoo's and lps. some mushrooms and two anemones. no sps and I have no problem. I have had the cherub for over 3 years and I have had the others for about one year. __________________ The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax. Albert Einstein I hate micro-bubbles!! Current Tank Info: 215 gallon oceanic Ultimate with starfire front, 3-250 watt metal halide, 4-36 inch 39 watt T-5 actinic and daylight bulbs, aquamedic turboflotor shorty with mesh mod 3-Tunze Turbelle® stream 6105 with controller, 40 gallon sump

03/01/2008, 06:28 PM	#4
Jpergamo Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Queens NY Posts: 142	good call ill QT him with a frag or 2 if i decide to go with him...anyone with some negatives to sway me the other way? __________________ Put a sweater on babe, your gonna get ich. Current Tank Info: 180 aga RR/ DIY sump-fuge with cheato, aqua c EV 240 mag18 driven, mag 18 return, 2xKorilia 4. DIY light 4X39 T-5 actinic, 2x 400w 10k.

03/01/2008, 06:35 PM	#6
Pepito Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las vegas Posts: 355	I would just ask if its worth the risk? They are awesome fish, but its like playing with matches imo I think the QT with frags idea is a good one tho for sure. By the way I did own one before in a 65 reef tank, so it was worth the risk to me. That said, it did very aggressively go after my lps corals only and was impossible to catch. __________________ MOO MOO I'm VooDoo CuRsInG yOu!!! Current Tank Info: Setting up 50 gal w/ 20 sump

03/01/2008, 06:48 PM	#7
erendon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chicago, Il. Posts: 444	I had a Flame Angel in my 180, when it died I got a Coral Beauty angel now and I see it NIP at my SPS's every now and then. I wish I could put a Flame in there now but they would fight. I see my Yellow Tangs nip at my SPS's more than the Angel. I say go for it. __________________ He who tries and fails is wiser than he who does not try out of fear of failure. Current Tank Info: 180 Gal Reef, DYI fuge/sump, 3x 250's, 1400 K phoenix.

03/01/2008, 06:23 PM	#3
Gools Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vernon, BC Posts: 795	your going to here both sides. It all depends on which one you get. He may be perfect or he may be the devil. I'm going to put one in a Q tank with some digi, and a few small frags and see what happens, unless I can find someone who is getting rid of one that was fine in a reef.

03/01/2008, 06:29 PM	#5
Bonebrake Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Danville, PA Posts: 519	I have a flame in a 90 and he recently started nipping at corals about one month ago and I have had him for a little over five months. The nipping is pretty harmless just the occasional peck at a clam and it will close up. No noticeable damage. I would assume even if you had a real nipper and had enough corals the buck would get passed around enough to not cause any real damage. Keep them well fed and they may be less apt to forage on their own.

03/01/2008, 07:02 PM	#8
jadeguppy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: nw Florida Posts: 2,611	I am wondering if the nipping is picking of pods in most cases or if they are doing real damage. I have seen my bi-color and coral beauty appear to nip at a coral, but I see no evidence of damage and have figured they must have been going after a pod.

03/01/2008, 07:05 PM	#9
AquamanE Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 6,544	ive had mine in my mixed, lps, softies, and some sps for a few months. like said before it harmlessly nips at things. then again so does my purple tank. no harm done. my lfs guys keeps telling me its a matter of time before i have to take him out. i will wait before getting a clam. __________________ Eddie Soler FMAS BOD Member MACNA 2013 Chairman "I'd rather die living than live to die" Current Tank Info: 200G mixed reef with 60G sump, Radion LED’s , Bubble King skimmer, blah blah blah.

03/01/2008, 07:25 PM	#10
Beach Bum 70 Beach Bum 70 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sunny Isles Beach Fl Posts: 777	i have a 90 gal with SPS and zoos some LPS but also feed heavy to keep them happy and have had no problems I a Flame CB and MAle female watanbei in there