clowns sick? Long, but need help!

miss neptune · 03/16/2008, 10:04 AM

I bought two true purcs from my LFS on Feb. 16th. The store had ordered them for me and they looked kinda beat up when I went to pick them up. They told me that 8 had been shipped together and they had been biting at each other. I asked them to take two out and put them in their own tank for a couple of days which they did. I got them a few days later they looked OK, just some slightly torn fins, but seemed very happy together. Home to quarentine...few days later what looked like the start of ich. I treated with QuICK cure according to directions for 6 days. The fish looked better. Stopped treatment. Two weeks later they have a white slimy look to them with what looked like the white cottony thing I've read about. Asked for advise from LFS. Treated with Triple Sulfa for the last 4 days. Now the larger one has a few pinkish areas on her. Both of the fish's "skin" does not look good. BUT, HERE'S THE THING... They are so HAPPY! They eat like pigs, interact with me, and "play" around with eachother! They never breathed heavy (a little during quick cure dosing) and I have to decied if I should start another 4 day dose of Triple Sulfa...WHAT SHOULD I DO?
I added a pic to my photo galery. Did the best I could....

miss neptune · 03/16/2008, 10:06 AM

Should of added that they are still in QT and all parms have been good. Am doing proper H2O changes ect...

kevin2000 · 03/16/2008, 10:18 AM

A picture would help.

Quick cure isn't considered all that effective in treating ich and in the future I would recommend either hyposalinity or copper.

White film on clowns is often a sign of brooklynella (aka clownfish disease) -- that's normally treated with formalin baths. If the problem is brook then your quick cure "ich" treatment may have had some nominal positive impact since one of its primary components is formalin.

Here's a link discussing formalin baths

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...alinbaths.html

This is probably not a great topic for the newbie forum and you should consider re-posting over at the disease forum.

Michael · 03/16/2008, 10:19 AM

if they are in quarantine, you could do a old fashioned freshwater trick and slowly raise the temperature to about 90 degrees, obviously oxygen levels will have to be increased and nothing else in the tank, i am not saying it will work with salt water fish but no one else has a suggestion at present and raising the temperature does sometimes help fish in ridding disease, i would not suggest this in reef tanks but in quaranteen it may be worth a shot at a last result, otherwise take the fish back to the shop and buy 2 more elsewhere

kevin2000 · 03/16/2008, 10:19 AM

A picture would help.

Quick cure isn't considered all that effective in treating ich and in the future I would recommend either hyposalinity or copper.

White film on clowns is often a sign of brooklynella (aka clownfish disease) -- that's normally treated with formalin baths. If the problem is brook then your quick cure "ich" treatment may have had some positive impact since one of its primary components is formalin.

Here's a link discussing formalin baths

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...alinbaths.html

This is probably not a great topic for the newbie forum and you should consider re-posting over at the disease forum.

kevin2000 · 03/16/2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikeydj
if they are in quarantine, you could do a old fashioned freshwater trick and slowly raise the temperature to about 90 degrees

That doesn't work in SW - harms the fish and helps the ich.

Michael · 03/16/2008, 10:21 AM

yeah or copper, good point kevin

miss neptune · 03/16/2008, 10:23 AM

I posted a pic in my gallery. I did not know how to post it in posting. Took me about 2 hours to even get one and download it. It is the best I can do. Please check it out.

kevin2000 · 03/16/2008, 10:28 AM

The picture is not clear enought to identify.

Here's a good link with pictures of various fish diseases .. take a look at the clowns with brooklynella.

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127010

miss neptune · 03/16/2008, 10:37 AM

Thank you for your help. The links were helpful. I am going to do the dips, but am a little scared. Sorry I can't get a better pic for you. I am too broke from my new hobby to get a new camera right now.

BTW, I did try to take the fish back and they would only take them back if they were dead...

03/16/2008, 10:04 AM	#1
miss neptune Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 46	clowns sick? Long, but need help! I bought two true purcs from my LFS on Feb. 16th. The store had ordered them for me and they looked kinda beat up when I went to pick them up. They told me that 8 had been shipped together and they had been biting at each other. I asked them to take two out and put them in their own tank for a couple of days which they did. I got them a few days later they looked OK, just some slightly torn fins, but seemed very happy together. Home to quarentine...few days later what looked like the start of ich. I treated with QuICK cure according to directions for 6 days. The fish looked better. Stopped treatment. Two weeks later they have a white slimy look to them with what looked like the white cottony thing I've read about. Asked for advise from LFS. Treated with Triple Sulfa for the last 4 days. Now the larger one has a few pinkish areas on her. Both of the fish's "skin" does not look good. BUT, HERE'S THE THING... They are so HAPPY! They eat like pigs, interact with me, and "play" around with eachother! They never breathed heavy (a little during quick cure dosing) and I have to decied if I should start another 4 day dose of Triple Sulfa...WHAT SHOULD I DO? I added a pic to my photo galery. Did the best I could.... __________________ Kimmy Current Tank Info: 40 gal. in wall oceanic tank, Sump, Mag Drive 500 Pump, #2 koralia, sunpod 250 watt 14,000K lighting

03/16/2008, 10:06 AM	#2
miss neptune Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 46	Should of added that they are still in QT and all parms have been good. Am doing proper H2O changes ect... __________________ Kimmy Current Tank Info: 40 gal. in wall oceanic tank, Sump, Mag Drive 500 Pump, #2 koralia, sunpod 250 watt 14,000K lighting

03/16/2008, 10:19 AM	#4
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	if they are in quarantine, you could do a old fashioned freshwater trick and slowly raise the temperature to about 90 degrees, obviously oxygen levels will have to be increased and nothing else in the tank, i am not saying it will work with salt water fish but no one else has a suggestion at present and raising the temperature does sometimes help fish in ridding disease, i would not suggest this in reef tanks but in quaranteen it may be worth a shot at a last result, otherwise take the fish back to the shop and buy 2 more elsewhere __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

03/16/2008, 10:21 AM	#7
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	yeah or copper, good point kevin __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

03/16/2008, 10:23 AM	#8
miss neptune Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 46	I posted a pic in my gallery. I did not know how to post it in posting. Took me about 2 hours to even get one and download it. It is the best I can do. Please check it out. __________________ Kimmy Current Tank Info: 40 gal. in wall oceanic tank, Sump, Mag Drive 500 Pump, #2 koralia, sunpod 250 watt 14,000K lighting

03/16/2008, 10:18 AM	#3
kevin2000 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,805	A picture would help. Quick cure isn't considered all that effective in treating ich and in the future I would recommend either hyposalinity or copper. White film on clowns is often a sign of brooklynella (aka clownfish disease) -- that's normally treated with formalin baths. If the problem is brook then your quick cure "ich" treatment may have had some nominal positive impact since one of its primary components is formalin. Here's a link discussing formalin baths http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...alinbaths.html This is probably not a great topic for the newbie forum and you should consider re-posting over at the disease forum.

03/16/2008, 10:28 AM	#9
kevin2000 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,805	The picture is not clear enought to identify. Here's a good link with pictures of various fish diseases .. take a look at the clowns with brooklynella. http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127010

03/16/2008, 10:37 AM	#10
miss neptune Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 46	Thank you for your help. The links were helpful. I am going to do the dips, but am a little scared. Sorry I can't get a better pic for you. I am too broke from my new hobby to get a new camera right now. BTW, I did try to take the fish back and they would only take them back if they were dead... __________________ Kimmy Current Tank Info: 40 gal. in wall oceanic tank, Sump, Mag Drive 500 Pump, #2 koralia, sunpod 250 watt 14,000K lighting