Help w/Nemo on its way out :(

sfarid123 · 05/28/2008, 06:33 PM

Hi guys,

My male perc for the past 4 years is not doing well

I came home from work today and saw it laying on its side. I found out that my N03 was high 10 ppm. I found out that my impellor's ceramic shaft on my Mag3 had broken down over the weekend and skimmer had not been functioning well.
I have separated my perc in a 5 gallon tank with fresh water and a heater. It moves very little and breathes very fast. Is there anything else I can do to help him? Is it too late or will he have a 2nd chance?

thanks.

mwmp5 · 05/28/2008, 06:42 PM

Sometimes your LFS will take him in and place it in a tank for a little rehab, depends on how much you trust them and their set up.

Aquarist007 · 05/28/2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by sfarid123
Hi guys,

My male perc for the past 4 years is not doing well I came home from work today and saw it laying on its side. I found out that my N03 was high 10 ppm. I found out that my impellor's ceramic shaft on my Mag3 had broken down over the weekend and skimmer had not been functioning well.
I have separated my perc in a 5 gallon tank with fresh water and a heater. It moves very little and breathes very fast. Is there anything else I can do to help him? Is it too late or will he have a 2nd chance?

thanks.

if your ammonia was high then a water change would have been the first step I would have taken==you did that in a way but stressed the fish out too by moving it.
Just monitor the ammonia good on the 5 gallon tank and hope the perc survives. If there is no visible signs of disease then it is hard to treat it other then what you did
I hope the outcome here is positive

orbit · 05/28/2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by sfarid123

I have separated my perc in a 5 gallon tank with fresh water and a heater.

u mean saltwater right?

if its breathing hard, maybe your oxygen level is low, how are your powerhead positioned?

sfarid123 · 05/28/2008, 07:04 PM

Yes it is fresh saltwater, I have a small pump running to circulate the water.
I checked NH4 and NO2 and they were both 0
I'm surprised that the female perc and my other fish were not affected by this??

I'm also making more new water to make water change. Is 20 gallons enough for a 55g? and I need to change water slowly to prevent shock?

thanks

Aquarist007 · 05/28/2008, 07:09 PM

I am sorry I read the post wrong--thought you meant ammonia not nitrites. That level of nitrites would not bother the perc.
Still do the water change as preventative in case there is something in the tank.
20 gals is great

sfarid123 · 05/28/2008, 07:31 PM

Thats what I was thinking, Nitrates (NO3) shouldn't kill a fish. I am not seeing anything physical such as damage or sign of disease. It is just laying on its side and breathing. It does however move close to the heater which I'm a bit nervous about.

guinness0514 · 05/28/2008, 08:08 PM

Good luck...Hang in there....

sfarid123 · 05/28/2008, 08:18 PM

Thanks, Guinness , I could definitely use one now

rjsilvers · 05/28/2008, 09:15 PM

Bought two false percs two days ago from LFS. Both had ich and both do the laying on the side thing...

The other two false percs I have in my other tank do not have ich and they do not lay on their sides...

Maybe he has ich or some other parasite?

drillsar · 05/28/2008, 10:34 PM

it could have a internal infection, is its stomach bloated? fins redish, some parasites we cant see until its to late, try some meds in the hospital tank or actually lowering Saltinity slowly can kill some parasites if thats what it is.

Marinekeeper · 05/28/2008, 10:52 PM

My clown had similar symptoms and I gave him a fresh water dip for 40 seconds to kill any parasites. These saltwater parasites need a certain sg level to live and once they hit fresh water, they die off. Just make sure your ph is the same as your saltwater and the temp is the same. My nemo is now doing the back stroke. Best of luck

Ps. If he is showing heavy signs of stress in the fresh water, get him out ASAP.

Bruno3047 · 05/29/2008, 04:57 PM

Maybe he's just old.

All living things eventually must die.

Aquarist007 · 05/29/2008, 06:44 PM

any news safarad??

demonsp · 05/29/2008, 06:47 PM

Do you have any powerheads?

Aquarist007 · 05/29/2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by demonsp
Do you have any powerheads?

who me?

demonsp · 05/29/2008, 07:39 PM

No , You is , is that a pic of your refug????? Any powerheads was for original thread starter.

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Originally posted by capn_hylinur
who me?

Aquarist007 · 05/29/2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by demonsp
No , You is , is that a pic of your refug????? Any powerheads was for original thread starter.

I think you have had a few of those brown pops up there yourself tonight
lance, your post no, you is

but cheers anyways

demonsp · 05/29/2008, 08:22 PM

LOL you know it. On #10 it was a long day. I think cause you responded with a quote i had the other thread with your fuge pic on my mind.
And you is , you makes sence to me which is scary.

05/28/2008, 06:42 PM	#2
mwmp5 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Posts: 51	Sometimes your LFS will take him in and place it in a tank for a little rehab, depends on how much you trust them and their set up. __________________ Mike Current Tank Info: 90g Reef, SPS, LPS, Anenome, 8 fish, 100 lbs LR, LED only

05/28/2008, 07:09 PM	#6
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	I am sorry I read the post wrong--thought you meant ammonia not nitrites. That level of nitrites would not bother the perc. Still do the water change as preventative in case there is something in the tank. 20 gals is great __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

05/29/2008, 06:44 PM	#14
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	any news safarad?? __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

05/28/2008, 06:33 PM	#1
sfarid123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 456	Help w/Nemo on its way out :( Hi guys, My male perc for the past 4 years is not doing well I came home from work today and saw it laying on its side. I found out that my N03 was high 10 ppm. I found out that my impellor's ceramic shaft on my Mag3 had broken down over the weekend and skimmer had not been functioning well. I have separated my perc in a 5 gallon tank with fresh water and a heater. It moves very little and breathes very fast. Is there anything else I can do to help him? Is it too late or will he have a 2nd chance? thanks.

05/28/2008, 07:04 PM	#5
sfarid123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 456	Yes it is fresh saltwater, I have a small pump running to circulate the water. I checked NH4 and NO2 and they were both 0 I'm surprised that the female perc and my other fish were not affected by this?? I'm also making more new water to make water change. Is 20 gallons enough for a 55g? and I need to change water slowly to prevent shock? thanks

05/28/2008, 07:31 PM	#7
sfarid123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 456	Thats what I was thinking, Nitrates (NO3) shouldn't kill a fish. I am not seeing anything physical such as damage or sign of disease. It is just laying on its side and breathing. It does however move close to the heater which I'm a bit nervous about.

05/28/2008, 08:08 PM	#8
guinness0514 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 404	Good luck...Hang in there....

05/28/2008, 08:18 PM	#9
sfarid123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 456	Thanks, Guinness , I could definitely use one now

05/28/2008, 09:15 PM	#10
rjsilvers Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 537	Bought two false percs two days ago from LFS. Both had ich and both do the laying on the side thing... The other two false percs I have in my other tank do not have ich and they do not lay on their sides... Maybe he has ich or some other parasite?

05/28/2008, 10:34 PM	#11
drillsar Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Orange, NJ Posts: 2,838	it could have a internal infection, is its stomach bloated? fins redish, some parasites we cant see until its to late, try some meds in the hospital tank or actually lowering Saltinity slowly can kill some parasites if thats what it is.

05/28/2008, 10:52 PM	#12
Marinekeeper Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Posts: 4	My clown had similar symptoms and I gave him a fresh water dip for 40 seconds to kill any parasites. These saltwater parasites need a certain sg level to live and once they hit fresh water, they die off. Just make sure your ph is the same as your saltwater and the temp is the same. My nemo is now doing the back stroke. Best of luck Ps. If he is showing heavy signs of stress in the fresh water, get him out ASAP.

05/29/2008, 04:57 PM	#13
Bruno3047 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,018	Maybe he's just old. All living things eventually must die.

05/29/2008, 06:47 PM	#15
demonsp Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: el paso tx Posts: 7,634	Do you have any powerheads?

05/29/2008, 08:22 PM	#19
demonsp Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: el paso tx Posts: 7,634	LOL you know it. On #10 it was a long day. I think cause you responded with a quote i had the other thread with your fuge pic on my mind. And you is , you makes sence to me which is scary.