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Unread 07/02/2008, 08:50 AM   #1
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Question ASM G-1 Protein Skimmer help

Ok since the person on the last thread I started thinks I am a complete idiot I will start a new one that states what I need better. I knowprotein skimmers are a nessecity not an accesory as the other person so kindly put it. I am asking for someone to please tell me how to set up the one I have which is an ASM G-1 that I bought off of ebay. The pump that came with it was shot when I got it. I have tried 3 different pump since then and I cant figure out what size pump to get. I have a Rio 8+ right now that I would like to put on it. I need to figure out what depth to put it at and what I am doing wrong with it. If anyone has advise I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance. Also if you want to critisize me for not having a protein skimmer in there right now please save it for someone else. I take constructive critisizum well but not destructive. Thank you again.


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Unread 07/02/2008, 09:00 AM   #2
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I know several people who do not run skimmers, and do it successfully. Anyone who criticises on the RC "NEW TO HOBBY" forum must have issues. There are a million different ways to do things, so to say someone is wrong or make them feel unwelcome is....well.....wrong....

Anyway, ASM, nice choice. Have you tried going to the site and replacing the pump that came stock? Sedra 3000

Do you have a venturi on the pump you're attempting to use? barrel shaped nozzle on pumps intake.

Did it come with rubber tubing to connect to the venturi? You can see it on the left of the skimmer in pic. It needs to be up like that.

I run my ASM in water about 2/3rds of the way up the body. ON THE INSIDE, i run the water at the base of the neck, just below the collection cup.

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...s~vendor~.html

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Unread 07/02/2008, 09:13 AM   #3
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Yes it does. The only thing is that the pump is freaky looking lol. I am just getting really frustrated with it. It does have venturi on it and I have the hose connected right but it puts the bubbles back into the sump. I think I will go and look at the ASm website to see if they have the pump. I have been looking for it but havent found it yet. Thnak you


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Unread 07/02/2008, 09:42 AM   #4
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Are you just running a stock pump on the skimmer?

Does it have a mesh wheel or needle wheel impeller?


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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:00 AM   #5
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Re: ASM G-1 Protein Skimmer help

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Originally posted by Allanira
Ok since the person on the last thread I started thinks I am a complete idiot I will start a new one that states what I need better. I knowprotein skimmers are a nessecity not an accesory as the other person so kindly put it. I am asking for someone to please tell me how to set up the one I have which is an ASM G-1 that I bought off of ebay. The pump that came with it was shot when I got it. I have tried 3 different pump since then and I cant figure out what size pump to get. I have a Rio 8+ right now that I would like to put on it. I need to figure out what depth to put it at and what I am doing wrong with it. If anyone has advise I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance. Also if you want to critisize me for not having a protein skimmer in there right now please save it for someone else. I take constructive critisizum well but not destructive. Thank you again.
I have the same ASM G-1. While I'm not familiar with the RIO pumps I can tell you that this particular ASM model came with the Sedra 2500. You can pick one up at http://www.fishsupply.com/sspax-000g1.html

They also sell parts and supplies. TJ is making a point by mentioning the mesh mod, which I did to mine along with the gate valve mod...both are highly recommended and will boost skimmate production. You can purchase the gate valve kit from here: http://www.asmskimmer.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22 , or piece it together like I did. I found all the parts locally including the gate valve. As far as water depth..I have mine in 8" of water. This seems to be the best height for my setup. Anything deeper or shallower doesn't produce well. Hope that helps out a little.

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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:29 AM   #6
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The pump that came with it didnt work. It would work for a minute then shut off. It was clean and I didnt see any mess on it just impellers.I guess I need to get that pump you just mentioned the Sedra 2500 thank you for telling me what pump I needed. Everytime I tried to ask someone they basicly called me an idiot. I didnt appreciate it at all. I know I am new to all of this but still you know? I really do appreciate all the info you have given. When I get the new pump I will do the mods. I dont understand the gate valve part though. Thanks everyone again for being patient with me.


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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:34 AM   #7
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Ok I went to both websites and they dont have the pump. I tried to look at the different things on the ASM one and it kept taking me to the same place. I have looked that website before and its not user freindly (atleast to me it isnt lol). I guess I have to make an account on there. Thank you again.


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Current Tank Info: 55 gal fresh, and 55 gal salt with a 55 gallon sump 75 lb LR, live sand, 2 koralia 3s, 2 koralia 2s, 2 maroon clown, 1 green chromis, 1 firefish, 1 starry blenny, 2 red legged hermit crabs, 2 turbo snails, 1 cleaner shrimp
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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:37 AM   #8
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A gate valve is just an easier more precise way of controlling the water level inside the skimmer body.

It is placed on the pipe where the water flows out of the skimmer. By tightening it, you allow less water to flow out of the skimmer creating backpressure, which raises the water level inside the skimmer.... by opening it, less pressure and a lower level in the skimmer.

The reason I asked about the impeller is that skimmer impellers are different than just stock water pump impellers.

They have modifications on them which chop the water up into finer bubbles to enhance skimming. Meshwheel and needlewheel seem to be the most common.


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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:44 AM   #9
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Needlewheel:



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Unread 07/02/2008, 10:56 AM   #10
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Rio 1400 plus worked fine as a replacement pump for me


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Unread 07/02/2008, 11:01 AM   #11
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Thats what it looked like minus the meshing. It wouldnt work passed 30 secs though. I want to apologize if anyone on here thought that I was talking about them when I said that some one earlier made me feel like an idiot because I dont have a protein skimmer yet. Everyone on this thread and my other main thread have been really nice. Thank you again for all the advise that you have given me I really appreciate it and am looking for a Sedra 2500 now. Wish me luck lol


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Unread 07/02/2008, 11:06 AM   #12
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Huh. I am going to have to find out if they have a gate valve for my skimmer then. I have heard that as long as you learn something new everyday you stay younger. I guess I am learning a lot of things new lately. Wish me a lot of luck on this guys I think I am gonna need it lol


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Unread 07/02/2008, 11:23 AM   #13
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Here's a link right to the pump.
http://www.fishsupply.com/spksp-s2500.html

Not sure why you would need any luck.It seems to me you know what you're doing maybe just have a hard time navigating the web.
BTW,I wouldn't even think of doing a mesh mod like above.It's just a good way to wreck a very expensive needle wheel impeller.
The only mods that really improve a ASM is the gate and recirc. mods.But as you're just getting you're sea legs I would just focus on getting it running normal first.
I have a picture of my G2 set up in my gallery.........works great.
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Unread 07/02/2008, 12:55 PM   #14
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I beg to differ on the improvement a mesh mod will bring. If done right it will GREATLY improve the performance of the skimmer.

Also you don't need to perform the mod on the existing impeller, buy a replacement for $15 if you are that worried, or pop the top off and fabricate one.

Mesh mods only wreck pumps when done improperly or become poorly maintained. Pieces will break off or come loose and can ruin a pump. Also, if the mod is made too large it will not allow the pump to start up properly. You just need to take the time to do it right the first time... as with anything.

I agree with the statement, that she should focus on just getting the skimmer working at this point though.


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Unread 07/02/2008, 01:39 PM   #15
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Tswifty,

A needle wheel impeller cost $32.99.
Not sure if you can do it on the regular impeller,but I've seen hobbiest cut the needles off.
Don't know if you ever considered the recirc. mod.
But I have to tell you that it's absolutely amazing the amount of bubbles swirling in the skimmer body.It's one of the reasons I didn't go on to doing a mesh mod.
The skimmer is performing great with just the gate and recirc mods.


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Unread 07/02/2008, 01:59 PM   #16
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A recirc mod is in a completely different league than a mesh mod in my opinion. You're now talking about drilling holes in your skimmer's body versus zip tieing some mesh.

I don't know where you're buying impeller's though... $23... and that's without even looking for a better deal, just a simple google search.

http://www.dtpetsupplies.com/catalog...oducts_id=2850


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Unread 07/02/2008, 02:34 PM   #17
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Ok y'all are startin to lose me. In both of your opinions 1 way is great for 1 person and the other way is great for the other. Sting if your way works great for you then do it that way. Swift if your way works great for you then do it your way. Dont argue over inconsequencial things. Everyone is right in some ways. Or as I was raised everyone has an opinion it may be right for 1 person but not another. Keep smiling guys and dont get mad at eachother please. I know this comin from someone that got mad for someone callin her an idiot lol. No worries though. I bet both of your tanks are gorgeous.


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Unread 07/08/2008, 03:28 PM   #18
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Ok people. I have good news. My new pump for this protein skimmer will be in this Thursday. WOO HOO!!!!!! Finally lol. I wanted to say thank you again to everyone that has helped me on this. I really appreciated it.


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Unread 07/08/2008, 06:42 PM   #19
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Here's a link for the ASM skimmer club. There are posts for just about everything you can think of.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1356569


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Unread 07/08/2008, 07:54 PM   #20
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Cool thank you.


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