panther grouper in reef

Chago09 · 09/02/2008, 06:43 AM

I know these guys are not reef safe. Although my question is are they not reef safe because they eat fish?? Like would these guys even bother with corals?

I was told they are actually not aggressive at all and won't bother anything unless it fits in its mouth. If small enough then its as good as dead. is this correct

crvz · 09/02/2008, 06:52 AM

probably wouldnt bother corals, but it would absolutely devour anything it could. and you'd be surprised what can fit in their mouths. not sure about snails and hermit crabs, but shrimp would be a risk as well.

adunne · 09/02/2008, 07:03 AM

I think the reason they say these guys are not reef safe is because you can kiss you clean up crew good buy and they are clunky swimmers and might (prally will) knock over frags etc as they swim around. But i dont think they will intentionally harm corals.

Sk8r · 09/02/2008, 07:27 AM

from LiveAquaria.com: "This is a very hardy and long-lived animal provided it is kept in an ample-sized, fish-only aquarium of 300 gallons or larger, with sufficient filtration. They grow rapidly, so be sure that the tank you have them in is of sufficient size. The Panther Grouper will eat any fish and invertebrates it can swallow."
Adult size 1 foot 8 inches.
There is one danger besides the obvious, that that large a meateater in the tank will have to be the only fish, and that his high-protein-based fish poo as he approaches adult will ultimately require an extraordinarily potent and expensive skimmer. At that point he may be eating a pound of shrimp a day.

phish guy · 09/02/2008, 07:47 AM

yeah small panther groupers are adorable but grow very quick and eat alot, ALOT.

09/02/2008, 06:43 AM	#1
Chago09 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Georgetown Posts: 1,132	panther grouper in reef I know these guys are not reef safe. Although my question is are they not reef safe because they eat fish?? Like would these guys even bother with corals? I was told they are actually not aggressive at all and won't bother anything unless it fits in its mouth. If small enough then its as good as dead. is this correct __________________ Currently no tank!

09/02/2008, 06:52 AM	#2
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	probably wouldnt bother corals, but it would absolutely devour anything it could. and you'd be surprised what can fit in their mouths. not sure about snails and hermit crabs, but shrimp would be a risk as well. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

09/02/2008, 07:27 AM	#4
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	from LiveAquaria.com: "This is a very hardy and long-lived animal provided it is kept in an ample-sized, fish-only aquarium of 300 gallons or larger, with sufficient filtration. They grow rapidly, so be sure that the tank you have them in is of sufficient size. The Panther Grouper will eat any fish and invertebrates it can swallow." Adult size 1 foot 8 inches. There is one danger besides the obvious, that that large a meateater in the tank will have to be the only fish, and that his high-protein-based fish poo as he approaches adult will ultimately require an extraordinarily potent and expensive skimmer. At that point he may be eating a pound of shrimp a day. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

09/02/2008, 07:47 AM	#5
phish guy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South NJ Posts: 1,003	yeah small panther groupers are adorable but grow very quick and eat alot, ALOT. __________________ Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon Reef, Reeftech LEDs ( on their way out for reefbreeder Photons), Reef Octoput NWB250, Custom made Sump/Refufium, Mp40wES, Koralia's. SPS, LPS, Zoas/Palys

09/02/2008, 07:03 AM	#3
adunne Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: enfield ct Posts: 498	I think the reason they say these guys are not reef safe is because you can kiss you clean up crew good buy and they are clunky swimmers and might (prally will) knock over frags etc as they swim around. But i dont think they will intentionally harm corals.