Did I get ripped off?

treecowboy42 · 11/10/2008, 07:06 PM

I bought live rock, and was doing a cycle,curing on a new tank. I have alot of brown algae/ diatoms coming out of the rocks and all over the glass and substrate. I have have had the rock about a week and a half. I was wondering when the smell came in, or am I killing my rock?

kel2682 · 11/10/2008, 07:13 PM

Hopefully you are using RO/DI saltwater , also if your curing the rock no need for light if your using one also whats the temp of the tank???? Do you have flow in the tank????? These are things people would want to know to be able to help you out

Don-Coraleone · 11/10/2008, 07:21 PM

your always going to get die off on live rock. the diatoms will go away in a few days by themselves.

treecowboy42 · 11/10/2008, 07:39 PM

I have 2 hydros #2 and a over flow. My readings are KH 8/143.2 ppm KH/GH, salinity 1.022 I know it is low, Ca 360 ppm Mg/l , Ammonia .25-.5, Nitrite .25-.5, Nitrate 10, Ph 8.8 , temp is 79, and I run my light for 8 hours. Yes I use RO/DI water.

kel2682 · 11/10/2008, 08:16 PM

if its just rock leave the light off it will help prevent algea blooms/or kill off some of the already living

jprince58 · 11/10/2008, 08:23 PM

+1 on leaving the lights off until you need them for something. Sounds like you're having a perfectly normal cycle to me.

treecowboy42 · 11/10/2008, 08:26 PM

When does the smell come in, how far in to the cycle?

jprince58 · 11/10/2008, 08:30 PM

With fresh live rock, you can get the smell pretty quick...sometimes just a day or two...sometimes not at all If you haven't got it after a week and half, you probably won't get much.

MileHighFish · 11/10/2008, 08:43 PM

are you planning on getting a skimmer to help you along?

treecowboy42 · 11/10/2008, 08:51 PM

I have a Fission Skimmer for a 220 gal, I have a 55 gal tank.

FREEZY POP · 11/10/2008, 09:41 PM

You may also want to check for micro bubbles in your tank as well as increasing your water flow. My supplier recommened that i try to eliminate the bubbles and increase flow. this quickly resolved the algae issues!!!!!

jprince58 · 11/10/2008, 09:56 PM

Increase flow and decrease bubbles? To get rid of algae? That's a new one on me. And here I've spent all these years thinking I needed to decrease nutrient levels in the water column.

SEAFROG · 11/10/2008, 09:59 PM

do water changes will help a lot

FREEZY POP · 11/10/2008, 10:37 PM

the flow and bubble thing seemed to make a drastic change in the brown algae growth when i started my tank almost dissapeared in a coupie of days.

FREEZY POP · 11/10/2008, 11:09 PM

after a little research i found out that in the process of quantum fracturing used by algae oil manufacturers they use micro bubbles to deliver nutrients to the algae cells at an accelerated rate thus promoting faster growth!!!!!!!!!!

11/10/2008, 07:06 PM	#1
treecowboy42 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Motor Posts: 164	Did I get ripped off? I bought live rock, and was doing a cycle,curing on a new tank. I have alot of brown algae/ diatoms coming out of the rocks and all over the glass and substrate. I have have had the rock about a week and a half. I was wondering when the smell came in, or am I killing my rock?

11/10/2008, 08:23 PM	#6
jprince58 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jenks, OK, USA Posts: 751	+1 on leaving the lights off until you need them for something. Sounds like you're having a perfectly normal cycle to me. __________________ 'I refuse to discount another man's opinion -- until he opens his mouth to speak.' -- Anonymous Jeff Prince Current Tank Info: 72g bow mixed reef; 40g frag

11/10/2008, 08:30 PM	#8
jprince58 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jenks, OK, USA Posts: 751	With fresh live rock, you can get the smell pretty quick...sometimes just a day or two...sometimes not at all If you haven't got it after a week and half, you probably won't get much. __________________ 'I refuse to discount another man's opinion -- until he opens his mouth to speak.' -- Anonymous Jeff Prince Current Tank Info: 72g bow mixed reef; 40g frag

11/10/2008, 08:43 PM	#9
MileHighFish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NM. Posts: 1,722	are you planning on getting a skimmer to help you along? __________________ See "Red House" for pics!! I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. Mitch Hedberg Current Tank Info: Reef tank, 100 gal Lee Mar polished.. 60 sump.. 800 watts mh 20k radium..Ran on "Taiwan HQI Ballast" 330 watt VHO.. 48 watt compacts (dawn/dusk).. sps/lps tank..

11/10/2008, 09:56 PM	#12
jprince58 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jenks, OK, USA Posts: 751	Increase flow and decrease bubbles? To get rid of algae? That's a new one on me. And here I've spent all these years thinking I needed to decrease nutrient levels in the water column. __________________ 'I refuse to discount another man's opinion -- until he opens his mouth to speak.' -- Anonymous Jeff Prince Current Tank Info: 72g bow mixed reef; 40g frag

11/10/2008, 07:13 PM	#2
kel2682 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CT Posts: 532	Hopefully you are using RO/DI saltwater , also if your curing the rock no need for light if your using one also whats the temp of the tank???? Do you have flow in the tank????? These are things people would want to know to be able to help you out

11/10/2008, 07:21 PM	#3
Don-Coraleone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: east coast Posts: 1,478	your always going to get die off on live rock. the diatoms will go away in a few days by themselves.

11/10/2008, 07:39 PM	#4
treecowboy42 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Motor Posts: 164	I have 2 hydros #2 and a over flow. My readings are KH 8/143.2 ppm KH/GH, salinity 1.022 I know it is low, Ca 360 ppm Mg/l , Ammonia .25-.5, Nitrite .25-.5, Nitrate 10, Ph 8.8 , temp is 79, and I run my light for 8 hours. Yes I use RO/DI water.

11/10/2008, 08:16 PM	#5
kel2682 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CT Posts: 532	if its just rock leave the light off it will help prevent algea blooms/or kill off some of the already living

11/10/2008, 08:26 PM	#7
treecowboy42 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Motor Posts: 164	When does the smell come in, how far in to the cycle?

11/10/2008, 08:51 PM	#10
treecowboy42 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Motor Posts: 164	I have a Fission Skimmer for a 220 gal, I have a 55 gal tank.

11/10/2008, 09:41 PM	#11
FREEZY POP Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 110	You may also want to check for micro bubbles in your tank as well as increasing your water flow. My supplier recommened that i try to eliminate the bubbles and increase flow. this quickly resolved the algae issues!!!!!

11/10/2008, 09:59 PM	#13
SEAFROG Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: OHIO BELLEFONTAINE Posts: 54	cycle do water changes will help a lot

11/10/2008, 10:37 PM	#14
FREEZY POP Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 110	the flow and bubble thing seemed to make a drastic change in the brown algae growth when i started my tank almost dissapeared in a coupie of days. __________________ THE THINGS I THINK AND DO NOT SAY ARE THE THINGS YOU SAY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT THINK! IM NOT FALLIN FOR ANOUTHER BANANA IN THE TAILPIPE!!! Current Tank Info: 55 GAL MIXED REEF 5X 54W T5'S + HIGH OUTPUT LED'S 20 GAL FUGE MRC SKIMMER PHOSBAN REACTOR

11/10/2008, 11:09 PM	#15
FREEZY POP Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 110	after a little research i found out that in the process of quantum fracturing used by algae oil manufacturers they use micro bubbles to deliver nutrients to the algae cells at an accelerated rate thus promoting faster growth!!!!!!!!!! __________________ THE THINGS I THINK AND DO NOT SAY ARE THE THINGS YOU SAY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT THINK! IM NOT FALLIN FOR ANOUTHER BANANA IN THE TAILPIPE!!! Current Tank Info: 55 GAL MIXED REEF 5X 54W T5'S + HIGH OUTPUT LED'S 20 GAL FUGE MRC SKIMMER PHOSBAN REACTOR Last edited by FREEZY POP; 11/10/2008 at 11:20 PM.