what can be placed near frogspawn?

[pjewett]

I have some branching frogspawn attached to a fairly big rock and they are well clear of the rock surface. I'd like to put something on the surface to cover the rock that can be that close to the FS?

Do I have any options?

[JEFFR259]

Ummmm, you can put more Frogspawn around there

If the FS is basically covering all the real estate of the LR it's on when it's open, then you can't really put anything else there IMO, or the FS will kill it or be killed by the new addition if it's stronger than the FS.

[JEFFR259]

Ok, after re-reading your post, I see you say that the rock below the FS isn't touched by the FS.

If there's a good 3-4" of clearance between the bottom of the FS and the rock, you could probably get away with something very flat, like mushrooms.

Sounds kinda dicey to me tho

[reefworm]

other Euphylia sp. such as hammer/anchor etc. will be fine. they recognize each other as the same species so don't sting. I would have a few inches between it and anything else as the stinger tentacles - usually out at night- can stretch a good distance. it's also a function of flow - direction and velocity. I've had both frogspawn and hammer and observed that the tentacles tended to follow flow direction, obviously, and also that they tended to extend farther in stronger flow. watch at night with a red light to see how far yours go, and give it a bit more to safe.

[monti1]

I have a frogspawn and hammer that touch with no issues.

[Aquabucket]

If you are looking a surface coral ~ shrooms, GSPs and plays will be able to grow with the FS touching them. Be careful though some shrooms like rhodactus can sting the FS.

[birdman1979]

my fs and gsp touch with no signs of damage. both fs and gsp have stung my sps though.

[Merfin70]

My fs doesn't seem to bother anything ...... at least so far. It gets tangled in my pocillipora and is also touching an acan with no ill effects. I had plans to move it but he seems happy so I decided not to until he stings something.

[giambi4343]

could zoas touch GSP? just wondering

[pjewett]

thanks for all the suggestions!

What about Elegance Coral or Torch?

[reefworm]

It's been awhile and things may have changed by now, but I remember hearing that both, and particularly elegance had dismal survival rates. may have had something to do with collection techniques. rule of thumb, however, is to keep some distance as those sp. can sting as well

[woodiecrafts]

I have GSP and a Frogspawn growing together without any problems as well.

[Agu]

You could grow GSP or zoanthids on the rock under the frogspawn but I wouldn't recommend growing anything there. Any coral hardy enough to survive in the shade will spread towards the light, which will be right up the stalk of the frogspawn.

Lost a large montipora digitata that way .

[aquaman67]

I have a frogspawn and toadstool that touch, your mileage may very. Here's a pic.

[billet22]

I keep reading that FS put out stinger tentacles at night. However, mine always closes up at night. Is this a sign of trouble? It seems to be fine, I've had it around 3-4 months.

[pjewett]

mine closes too but seems healthy otherwise.

[BetterMetalReef]

My .02

They say that you can place hammers / torches / FS next to each other and be fine. My personal experience, I had a hammer for over a year. I then added a FS next to the hammer and within a day they had killed each other, which then led to a crash for my tank. I seem to be in the slim minority, but I'd just be careful all the same. Best of luck!

[reefworm]

good cautionary note, metal. sorry to hear about your crash. been there. ain't pretty.

[pixburg-reefer]

You can try to put another Euphyllia next to it, but it may not be completely harmless. If you just want to cover the rock, I also agree with GSP. Zoanthids may be a possibility but if they grow onto the frogspawn and need to be removed, you can't easily remove the large rock to get the zoas off.

K

[mg426]

I have one large mound in my display that I covered with FS torch and hammer. Everyone has been happy for over two years.

[pixburg-reefer]

also, be careful of placing soft corals near LPS because many of them send toxins out and impact LPS by showing receding tissue near where the soft coral is.

K

[Frick-n-Frags]

classic discussion

here's some notes:

mushrooms usually kill stony corals when the two touch

two stony coral GENERALLY fight. certain genus relatives do not, but the whole euphyllia thing is a crapshoot and has to be tested on individuals to find out

zooanthids/paly's etc get along with almost all other corals as a rule. of course certain spunky sps like acros and hydnos tolerate almost nothing

the odds of LPS and softies together are better than sps.


I would say zooanthids is the safest bet in this case. shrooms would have a tough time touching, but if the thing ever fell over into the shrooms, they will kill it.

watch stuff like GSP, which could actually cause trouble by overgrowing its neighbors

[reefworm]

good note on the GSP, and ditto for xenia

frick - thanks for the run down on who tolerates whom, or not

[JEFFR259]

Originally posted by billet22
I keep reading that FS put out stinger tentacles at night. However, mine always closes up at night. Is this a sign of trouble? It seems to be fine, I've had it around 3-4 months.

Ya know Billet, I keep seeing that too, and read it before I bought my FS. However, neither my FS or Torch has extended sweepers at night....

Mine close up more or less at night.

Now, my Galaxea and Fungia (Plate) corals definetely get larger at night. Especially the Galaxea! 10" sweepers at night are for real! And it's nothing but a 1" in frag, so the sweepers extend WAYYYYYY out!

[mhaith]

My Euphyllia close at night.