Garlic?? What are your experiences?

onevia_01 · 01/14/2009, 04:13 AM

Hi Guys.

I,ve been reading up on garlic and its possible ability to help with ich.
As there really isnt any fantastic scientific data on this topic I'm wondering if any one has any stories or experiences with this.

giapam · 01/14/2009, 07:08 AM

this helps fish to eat more = good and healthy fish = can combat itch

Michael · 01/14/2009, 07:24 AM

there will always be a debate on this subject as some guys swear by it and some think its an old wives tale, as far as i know there is no actual scientific data suggesting it aids the cure of itch in any way at all,it well may aid the fish to feed as it might be a stimulant, again though no data i know of, its all about personal opinion and what works for the indivigual reefer, there is also some opinions that in large quantities it can cause liver damage in fish, not my findings though, but it has been mentioned in previous conversations and articles, as i said at the front though its a debatebly subject and comes around several times quite regually here, try archiving it theres dozens of threads about it

will16 · 01/14/2009, 08:57 AM

IME I have found no benefits or drawbacks to it. Doesn't really alter how fish respond to the food. They don't eat any differently with or without it. Doesn't seem to make any difference for me. Just my experience.

Chris&Mel · 01/14/2009, 09:16 AM

The only thing it did for my fish was give them bad breath.....lol

JEFFR259 · 01/14/2009, 05:01 PM

^ Hahaha

I have used it since day one. It helped alot to get a finicky Coral Beauty Angel to eat.

Whether it's luck, good healthy fish from the get-go, or the garlic....I have never had Ich (knock on wood REAL hard). I feed garlic soaked food every-other day or so.

One thing to be cautious about is using the garlic supplement too much. Don't use it at every feeding as it can be harmful to the fish.

Josh Candiotti · 01/14/2009, 05:20 PM

From what ive heard is that it can help your fishes immune system. And my opinion is it does just that I dose everyday soaked into the food for about 5 mins before feeding. By having your fish healthy they can be better prepared to fight infections includeing Ich. I haven't heard of anyone using it after there fish got ich to cure it so my suggestion is that you should start dosing to help prevent it. It cost me $20 for 1 bottle of Kent Marine Garlic and I use only one to two drops a day and at this rate it may last a year so if it doesn't prove to help you how it helps me its not a huge waste of money. Hope you have as much success with Garlic as ive had the past 4 months.

returnofsid · 01/14/2009, 05:44 PM

Garlic does NOT help at all with immune systems. It also doesn't help with appetite, unless a certain fish is drawn to the smell. It also has no effect on Ich or the potential of a fish to get ich. It has shown to have some benefit to immune systems in freshwater fish, but all studies have shown it does absolutely nothing for saltwater fish.
Here's a good link... http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

shleprock30 · 01/14/2009, 08:24 PM

Gives me gas but I love to cook with it. LOL

Now when I am out fishing the Bass will take just about anything if it is sprayed with a Garlic spray so I have to believe that it triggers some kind of feeding response, but that is fresh water and when they ar not biting at all the spray makes the difference.

Rick

Freed · 01/14/2009, 08:31 PM

I never use it cause there is absolutely no proof, documentation, data, articles anywhere that says garlic will cure ich, invoke feeding responses, or boost anything's immune system anywhere. This way I save $20/month or so in buying snake oil just cause someone says it's a cure all and doesn't have anything to back them up with.

I do use hypo in QT because there is proof, there is data, and there is documentation on the other hand.

Flipper62 · 01/15/2009, 12:50 AM

FIRST....Garlic will NOT cure Ick...... Anyone that says that Their fish had ICK....Then they added Garlic & it went away...IS DELUSIONAL. Garlic will not take Ick away

Using Garlic.... along with the fish food will ONLY help to keep the fish Immune system up & running properly....Garlic will help to fight ick. BUT WILL NOT CURE IT

sminker · 01/15/2009, 12:59 AM

i love the stuff. i dose it in the food about 3-4 times a week. i might be "DELUSIONAL" but it seems to keep my fish nice and healthy. I dont think it cures Ich at all but helps keep their appetite up, which in turn keeps them healthier overall.

just about every LFS i go to seems to keep a bottle on hand for their use on their display tanks.

i will probably use the stuff till i die or i see some hardcore research sayin why i shouldnt use it. $14.95 for a bottle that will last me a year? what the heck, why not.

jvr1102 · 01/15/2009, 01:43 AM

My tang got ich and stopped eating. I tried all kinds of different foods and the only thing he would eat was garlic soaked nori. I QT'd my tang in a 10 gallon tank and my reef guy gave me some Ich-X medication. I put one tables spoon of this stuff in for 10 days and did 5 gallon water changes every day for a month and he was cured. I know everybody has methods that worked for them but this is what cured mine...thank god cuz I would have be Po'd if my 125$ fish died the first week

troyman · 01/15/2009, 04:48 AM

we all have differnt ways to make our tank work i for one use garlic in there food and they are happy and healthy as far as ick goes it keeps fish eating so he has a chance to fight it off ick is always in the tank unless you go fishless for months to kill it out garlic has a natural antibiotic in it it helps the fish immunity i also use spirinala in there food to prolly thats a myth to but it works for me and my fish friends happy reefkeeping

01/14/2009, 04:13 AM	#1
onevia_01 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104	Garlic?? What are your experiences? Hi Guys. I,ve been reading up on garlic and its possible ability to help with ich. As there really isnt any fantastic scientific data on this topic I'm wondering if any one has any stories or experiences with this.

01/14/2009, 07:08 AM	#2
giapam Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 67	hummm this helps fish to eat more = good and healthy fish = can combat itch

01/14/2009, 07:24 AM	#3
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	there will always be a debate on this subject as some guys swear by it and some think its an old wives tale, as far as i know there is no actual scientific data suggesting it aids the cure of itch in any way at all,it well may aid the fish to feed as it might be a stimulant, again though no data i know of, its all about personal opinion and what works for the indivigual reefer, there is also some opinions that in large quantities it can cause liver damage in fish, not my findings though, but it has been mentioned in previous conversations and articles, as i said at the front though its a debatebly subject and comes around several times quite regually here, try archiving it theres dozens of threads about it __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/14/2009, 09:16 AM	#5
Chris&Mel Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 597	The only thing it did for my fish was give them bad breath.....lol __________________ I let my wife think she is the brains of this operation Current Tank Info: 60 gal ,36" sun dial T-5, super skimmer 220, #2&#3 korilia's, marineland 20gal sump, 80pd's LR, 30 pd's LS

01/14/2009, 05:20 PM	#7
Josh Candiotti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 490	From what ive heard is that it can help your fishes immune system. And my opinion is it does just that I dose everyday soaked into the food for about 5 mins before feeding. By having your fish healthy they can be better prepared to fight infections includeing Ich. I haven't heard of anyone using it after there fish got ich to cure it so my suggestion is that you should start dosing to help prevent it. It cost me $20 for 1 bottle of Kent Marine Garlic and I use only one to two drops a day and at this rate it may last a year so if it doesn't prove to help you how it helps me its not a huge waste of money. Hope you have as much success with Garlic as ive had the past 4 months. __________________ JC Current Tank Info: 65 Reef Tank

01/14/2009, 08:57 AM	#4
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	IME I have found no benefits or drawbacks to it. Doesn't really alter how fish respond to the food. They don't eat any differently with or without it. Doesn't seem to make any difference for me. Just my experience.

01/14/2009, 05:01 PM	#6
JEFFR259 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 595	^ Hahaha I have used it since day one. It helped alot to get a finicky Coral Beauty Angel to eat. Whether it's luck, good healthy fish from the get-go, or the garlic....I have never had Ich (knock on wood REAL hard). I feed garlic soaked food every-other day or so. One thing to be cautious about is using the garlic supplement too much. Don't use it at every feeding as it can be harmful to the fish.

01/14/2009, 05:44 PM	#8
returnofsid Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,852	Garlic does NOT help at all with immune systems. It also doesn't help with appetite, unless a certain fish is drawn to the smell. It also has no effect on Ich or the potential of a fish to get ich. It has shown to have some benefit to immune systems in freshwater fish, but all studies have shown it does absolutely nothing for saltwater fish. Here's a good link... http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

01/14/2009, 08:24 PM	#9
shleprock30 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 177	Gives me gas but I love to cook with it. LOL Now when I am out fishing the Bass will take just about anything if it is sprayed with a Garlic spray so I have to believe that it triggers some kind of feeding response, but that is fresh water and when they ar not biting at all the spray makes the difference. Rick __________________ Rick Current Tank Info: Oceanic 37 gal reef. CPR MRT 13 gal. ETSS Sump buddy 40, 175watt MH 14K

01/14/2009, 08:31 PM	#10
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	I never use it cause there is absolutely no proof, documentation, data, articles anywhere that says garlic will cure ich, invoke feeding responses, or boost anything's immune system anywhere. This way I save $20/month or so in buying snake oil just cause someone says it's a cure all and doesn't have anything to back them up with. I do use hypo in QT because there is proof, there is data, and there is documentation on the other hand. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

01/15/2009, 12:50 AM	#11
Flipper62 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Naperville, Il. Business Owner, President & CEO Posts: 3,045	FIRST....Garlic will NOT cure Ick...... Anyone that says that Their fish had ICK....Then they added Garlic & it went away...IS DELUSIONAL. Garlic will not take Ick away Using Garlic.... along with the fish food will ONLY help to keep the fish Immune system up & running properly....Garlic will help to fight ick. BUT WILL NOT CURE IT __________________ If todays automobile had followed the same development as the computer, A Rolls Royce would cost $100.00. It would get a million miles per gallon, but it would explode once a year killing everyone inside." Current Tanks... 90 gal Reef... My awesome Office BioCube....( 180 was on hold ..no time ) ... The 180 gal has been sold...Yay..yay..yay. Hobby Experience: 19 years Reef...22 years FW

01/15/2009, 12:59 AM	#12
sminker Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 612	i love the stuff. i dose it in the food about 3-4 times a week. i might be "DELUSIONAL" but it seems to keep my fish nice and healthy. I dont think it cures Ich at all but helps keep their appetite up, which in turn keeps them healthier overall. just about every LFS i go to seems to keep a bottle on hand for their use on their display tanks. i will probably use the stuff till i die or i see some hardcore research sayin why i shouldnt use it. $14.95 for a bottle that will last me a year? what the heck, why not.

01/15/2009, 01:43 AM	#13
jvr1102 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 521	My tang got ich and stopped eating. I tried all kinds of different foods and the only thing he would eat was garlic soaked nori. I QT'd my tang in a 10 gallon tank and my reef guy gave me some Ich-X medication. I put one tables spoon of this stuff in for 10 days and did 5 gallon water changes every day for a month and he was cured. I know everybody has methods that worked for them but this is what cured mine...thank god cuz I would have be Po'd if my 125$ fish died the first week

01/15/2009, 04:48 AM	#14
troyman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: troy ny Posts: 1,025	we all have differnt ways to make our tank work i for one use garlic in there food and they are happy and healthy as far as ick goes it keeps fish eating so he has a chance to fight it off ick is always in the tank unless you go fishless for months to kill it out garlic has a natural antibiotic in it it helps the fish immunity i also use spirinala in there food to prolly thats a myth to but it works for me and my fish friends happy reefkeeping