Looking for bluer 175 Watt 10K or 14k Mogul Halide Lamp

Buganddoug · 02/12/2009, 03:18 PM

Hi I am looking to replace my 15K 175watt Metal Halide Bulb - Iwasaki for somthing little bluer. They are now more than one year old. But I would like to keep good PAR. I use 3 Blueline Electronic Halide Ballast and I have 2 72" URI 72in - 160 watt Actinic Blue - VHO
What I am looking at is.
Icecap 175 Watt 14K Mogul Halide Lamp,
175 Watt 14000K Metal Halide Bulb - Phoenix, Mogul Base,
14k 175watt Hamilton Halide Bulb - mogule,
or do you think I should just stay with 15K 175watt Metal Halide Bulb - Iwasaki

Any info would be great. If you have photos of your tank so I can see the coloring would really help

spazthecat · 02/12/2009, 07:45 PM

Hi,

I recently switched from the Iwasaki 15k's to the Hamilton 14k. I'm still on the fence about it. But, I think I'm so accustomed to the blinding white of the Iwasaki that the Hamiltons look really blue to me. These pictures are without actinic supplementation.

Iwasaki 15k:

http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...90001953395426

Hamilton 14k:

http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...90124772295714

Iwasaki on the left, Hamilton on the right:

http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...89852059602514

Hope that helps.

Andy

shleprock30 · 02/12/2009, 08:34 PM

Well the Iwasaki is the monster PAR bulb, it looks like according to Sanjay's site you will be cutting your PAR in half by moving to the Hamilton 14K, he doesn't have the Icecap on there but most of the 14K bulbs are pretty low on PAR.

Can you just add some supplemental lighting? That way you keep your PAR and get the color you want. I am on the other end slowly working my way up the PAR ladder. I was using an SPS14K which is way loooow on PAR.

reefdude135 · 02/12/2009, 09:36 PM

The PAR on the Hamilton 14K goes up if you use it with an electronic ballast....

Buganddoug · 02/13/2009, 05:59 AM

Nice photos and thank you all for your info. Now on supplemental lighting I have two 72in - 160 watt Actinic Blue - VHO and I do not thing I can fit any more in the hood. I will have to take a good look to see if I can put more in.

Buganddoug · 02/13/2009, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shleprock30
Well the Iwasaki is the monster PAR bulb, it looks like according to Sanjay's site you will be cutting your PAR in half by moving to the Hamilton 14K, he doesn't have the Icecap on there but most of the 14K bulbs are pretty low on PAR.

Can you just add some supplemental lighting? That way you keep your PAR and get the color you want. I am on the other end slowly working my way up the PAR ladder. I was using an SPS14K which is way loooow on PAR.

Do you have a link to Sajay's site?

sgarron · 02/13/2009, 06:25 AM

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/lighting

Buganddoug · 02/13/2009, 07:42 PM

I am maxed out for supplemental lighting in my hood.
Has any one seen the new Icecap lamps?

Vegas RN · 02/14/2009, 09:16 AM

might want to check out the reeflux 20k's also. Good par with great color. Check out reefspecialty forum.

02/12/2009, 03:18 PM	#1
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	Looking for bluer 175 Watt 10K or 14k Mogul Halide Lamp Hi I am looking to replace my 15K 175watt Metal Halide Bulb - Iwasaki for somthing little bluer. They are now more than one year old. But I would like to keep good PAR. I use 3 Blueline Electronic Halide Ballast and I have 2 72" URI 72in - 160 watt Actinic Blue - VHO What I am looking at is. Icecap 175 Watt 14K Mogul Halide Lamp, 175 Watt 14000K Metal Halide Bulb - Phoenix, Mogul Base, 14k 175watt Hamilton Halide Bulb - mogule, or do you think I should just stay with 15K 175watt Metal Halide Bulb - Iwasaki Any info would be great. If you have photos of your tank so I can see the coloring would really help

02/12/2009, 08:34 PM	#3
shleprock30 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 177	Well the Iwasaki is the monster PAR bulb, it looks like according to Sanjay's site you will be cutting your PAR in half by moving to the Hamilton 14K, he doesn't have the Icecap on there but most of the 14K bulbs are pretty low on PAR. Can you just add some supplemental lighting? That way you keep your PAR and get the color you want. I am on the other end slowly working my way up the PAR ladder. I was using an SPS14K which is way loooow on PAR. __________________ Rick Current Tank Info: Oceanic 37 gal reef. CPR MRT 13 gal. ETSS Sump buddy 40, 175watt MH 14K

02/13/2009, 05:59 AM	#5
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	Nice photos and thank you all for your info. Now on supplemental lighting I have two 72in - 160 watt Actinic Blue - VHO and I do not thing I can fit any more in the hood. I will have to take a good look to see if I can put more in. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

02/13/2009, 06:25 AM	#7
sgarron Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 651	http://www.manhattanreefs.com/lighting __________________ You want cheap, Get a goldfish.

02/13/2009, 07:42 PM	#8
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	I am maxed out for supplemental lighting in my hood. Has any one seen the new Icecap lamps? __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

02/12/2009, 07:45 PM	#2
spazthecat Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pickerington, OH Posts: 220	Hi, I recently switched from the Iwasaki 15k's to the Hamilton 14k. I'm still on the fence about it. But, I think I'm so accustomed to the blinding white of the Iwasaki that the Hamiltons look really blue to me. These pictures are without actinic supplementation. Iwasaki 15k: http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...90001953395426 Hamilton 14k: http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...90124772295714 Iwasaki on the left, Hamilton on the right: http://picasaweb.google.com/spazthec...89852059602514 Hope that helps. Andy

02/12/2009, 09:36 PM	#4
reefdude135 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 334	The PAR on the Hamilton 14K goes up if you use it with an electronic ballast....

02/14/2009, 09:16 AM	#9
Vegas RN Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 286	might want to check out the reeflux 20k's also. Good par with great color. Check out reefspecialty forum. __________________ I'd rather beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.