paraguard and hypo

pugmommie · 03/25/2009, 11:29 AM

I have 2 clown fish in a qt tank. I have been doing hypo-salinity for 2 weeks for ich. I also have a secondary infection, I think it is Lymphocystis on his lip. It is puffy like a piece of Cauliflower. My other clown also has some white on the back fin. Is it safe to use paraguard along with hypo salinity?

I know Lymphocystis is a virus but since I'm not 100% this is it I thought if I treat with paraguard at least I might be helping them.

YE||0W TA|\|G · 03/25/2009, 12:03 PM

ill tag along on this as well. Im treating my fish with ich in a QT with paraguard and keeping the salinity at 1.012.

My fish look like they are getting better from it

pugmommie · 03/25/2009, 02:47 PM

I have my salinity down to 1.009 and I wanted to make sure I can treat with paraguard without stressing out the fish.

pugmommie · 03/25/2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by YE||0W TA|\|G
ill tag along on this as well. Im treating my fish with ich in a QT with paraguard and keeping the salinity at 1.012.

My fish look like they are getting better from it

How long have you been using the paraguard?

MotherFish · 03/25/2009, 04:40 PM

Don't use Paragard during hypo.
http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...ead.php?t=2101

I frequently use a broad spectrum antibiotic for fungal/bacterial treatment during hypo, but not other treatments such as Paragard or copper.

Since the fish have been in hypo for two weeks, any Ich will have dropped off the fish and encysted on the substrate by now.
If you have another hospital/quarantine tank that you can setup, then you can match the hypo tank parameters, move the fish to the new tank leaving the encysted Ich behind, slowly raise the salinity to normal levels, and then treat with another medication like Paragard or copper to kill any other types of hypo-resistant parasites.

pugmommie · 03/25/2009, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the info motherfish. I did put some paraguard in the tank, but will not add anymore until hypo is finished.

kraze3 · 03/25/2009, 07:02 PM

BTW 1.009 is the correct sg for hypo not 1.012

wab · 03/25/2009, 08:14 PM

+1 for 09 not 12

pugmommie · 03/29/2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MotherFish
Don't use Paragard during hypo.
http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...ead.php?t=2101

I frequently use a broad spectrum antibiotic for fungal/bacterial treatment during hypo, but not other treatments such as Paragard or copper.

Since the fish have been in hypo for two weeks, any Ich will have dropped off the fish and encysted on the substrate by now.
If you have another hospital/quarantine tank that you can setup, then you can match the hypo tank parameters, move the fish to the new tank leaving the encysted Ich behind, slowly raise the salinity to normal levels, and then treat with another medication like Paragard or copper to kill any other types of hypo-resistant parasites.

I got some e.m. erythromycin from my lfs today and gave them their 1st dose of it. Hopefully this will take care of it. The picture on the box of the mouth fungus does look like his symptoms.

ajolie30 · 03/30/2009, 12:36 AM

what broad spectrum antibiotic do u use and do u use it while doing hypo or do u wait till the hypo is done???? also during the 4 weeks that u stay in hypo at 1.009 does the ich die or does it stay encrusted in the botom of the qt tank????

03/25/2009, 11:29 AM	#1
pugmommie Griffy Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Crestview, Fl Posts: 383	paraguard and hypo I have 2 clown fish in a qt tank. I have been doing hypo-salinity for 2 weeks for ich. I also have a secondary infection, I think it is Lymphocystis on his lip. It is puffy like a piece of Cauliflower. My other clown also has some white on the back fin. Is it safe to use paraguard along with hypo salinity? I know Lymphocystis is a virus but since I'm not 100% this is it I thought if I treat with paraguard at least I might be helping them.

03/25/2009, 12:03 PM	#2
YE\|\|0W TA\|\\|G Registered Member $YE\|\|0W TA\|\\|G's Avatar$ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hillsborough New Jersey Posts: 699	ill tag along on this as well. Im treating my fish with ich in a QT with paraguard and keeping the salinity at 1.012. My fish look like they are getting better from it __________________ Rome was not built in a day, and neither was the ocean.. or our aquariums.. patience is they key to success.
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03/25/2009, 02:47 PM	#3
pugmommie Griffy Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Crestview, Fl Posts: 383	I have my salinity down to 1.009 and I wanted to make sure I can treat with paraguard without stressing out the fish. __________________ 120 gal with 75 gal sump, aqua c ev180 skimmer, 4 x t5's and 2x kessil a350w, with an attached 29 gal along for the ride! New setup innovative marine nuvo 16 with 1x kessil a350w Current Tank Info: 2 each 30 gal saltwater, and a 120 gal tank, Typhoon Reefkeeping RODI

03/25/2009, 06:22 PM	#6
pugmommie Griffy Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Crestview, Fl Posts: 383	Thanks for the info motherfish. I did put some paraguard in the tank, but will not add anymore until hypo is finished. __________________ 120 gal with 75 gal sump, aqua c ev180 skimmer, 4 x t5's and 2x kessil a350w, with an attached 29 gal along for the ride! New setup innovative marine nuvo 16 with 1x kessil a350w Current Tank Info: 2 each 30 gal saltwater, and a 120 gal tank, Typhoon Reefkeeping RODI

03/25/2009, 08:14 PM	#8
wab Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: nj Posts: 512	+1 for 09 not 12 __________________ 1 year plus and still I DON'T KNOW!!!! LOL Current Tank Info: 45 high 30 breeder sump/refuge diy

03/25/2009, 04:40 PM	#5
MotherFish Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 208	Don't use Paragard during hypo. http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...ead.php?t=2101 I frequently use a broad spectrum antibiotic for fungal/bacterial treatment during hypo, but not other treatments such as Paragard or copper. Since the fish have been in hypo for two weeks, any Ich will have dropped off the fish and encysted on the substrate by now. If you have another hospital/quarantine tank that you can setup, then you can match the hypo tank parameters, move the fish to the new tank leaving the encysted Ich behind, slowly raise the salinity to normal levels, and then treat with another medication like Paragard or copper to kill any other types of hypo-resistant parasites.

03/25/2009, 07:02 PM	#7
kraze3 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: RI Posts: 2,373	BTW 1.009 is the correct sg for hypo not 1.012

03/30/2009, 12:36 AM	#10
ajolie30 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ct Posts: 300	what broad spectrum antibiotic do u use and do u use it while doing hypo or do u wait till the hypo is done???? also during the 4 weeks that u stay in hypo at 1.009 does the ich die or does it stay encrusted in the botom of the qt tank????