I dont know what's wrong!

TheGuyWho · 04/01/2009, 09:47 AM

First off water perams are fine. Phosphates are a little high, but this has been an ongoing issue and they are finally starting to come down this week.
Problem:
I have 2 spotted wrasse. One yellow tail and one red tail. I came home from work this morning and found my red tailed spotted wrasse awake and out. He's normally still hiding and asleep because my lights don't actually come on for another 3 hours or so. Anyways, I see him laying on the bottom sand bed, which is never a god sign, and looked like he had irregular breathing. Sometimes short, sometimes quick. So I grabbed my flashlight and shined the area he was in and he rolled upside down and then started swimming funny. He was bumping into the glass, then laying on the bottom again on his side, then swimming irratically and bumping into rocks and the glass. He has spurts of swimming aimlessly, but in a tight area and clumsily. This is very nerve racking. Ive only had him for about 3 weeks, and he was fine yesterday before I went to work. He was fed yesterday also, and HE DID eat! The most recent thing I added was yesterday when I added an orange tube anemone, 2 turbo snails, and 5 hermits. I don't understand it.
He is currently moved down into my SUMP. Im afraid Im going to lose him. It doesn't look good. Any help is appreciated! I want to save him!!!

TheGuyWho · 04/01/2009, 09:57 AM

The damn thing didnt even make it thru me typing this thread. Its dead. Ah Im so ****ed right now! How do things just up and die for no good reason with no warning and in no time!
I took some pictures. Does anyone see anything weird on it? Because it looks completely normal to me. Maybe around the eyes it looks weird? Both look identical, and have looked like that since we got it. I thought thats just how the fish was supposed to look... Sorry the pictures aren't that pretty, plus my camera sucks!

DANG IT! That was such a beautiful fIsh! He wasn't cheap either. I swear if I lose my yellow tail too Im going to put a hole in a wall!

Albanets202 · 04/01/2009, 10:26 AM

3 weeks... no signs... looks like cyanide poisoning during collection.

lkc · 04/01/2009, 10:52 AM

Or stung by the nem.

TheGuyWho · 04/01/2009, 11:11 AM

I thought possibly stung by the nem also, but kinda hard to believe. I have a second tube anemone thats been in there since the beginning and it never bothered the fish before. Even though my new one is bright, neon, orange I still don't see how??? Plus I thought those tube anemones weren't toxic enough to the fish to kill them? I know anemone's in general are, but I was told the tube anemone was less poisonous. That really sucks if that's what did it...

Cyanide!? How would that happen? And yes. 3 weeks, no signs or symptoms...

04/01/2009, 09:47 AM	#1
TheGuyWho Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 127	I dont know what's wrong! First off water perams are fine. Phosphates are a little high, but this has been an ongoing issue and they are finally starting to come down this week. Problem: I have 2 spotted wrasse. One yellow tail and one red tail. I came home from work this morning and found my red tailed spotted wrasse awake and out. He's normally still hiding and asleep because my lights don't actually come on for another 3 hours or so. Anyways, I see him laying on the bottom sand bed, which is never a god sign, and looked like he had irregular breathing. Sometimes short, sometimes quick. So I grabbed my flashlight and shined the area he was in and he rolled upside down and then started swimming funny. He was bumping into the glass, then laying on the bottom again on his side, then swimming irratically and bumping into rocks and the glass. He has spurts of swimming aimlessly, but in a tight area and clumsily. This is very nerve racking. Ive only had him for about 3 weeks, and he was fine yesterday before I went to work. He was fed yesterday also, and HE DID eat! The most recent thing I added was yesterday when I added an orange tube anemone, 2 turbo snails, and 5 hermits. I don't understand it. He is currently moved down into my SUMP. Im afraid Im going to lose him. It doesn't look good. Any help is appreciated! I want to save him!!! __________________ "The supreme irony of life......... .......... If nobody gets out alive.......... What's holding you back!?" "As with MOST things in life --- I used it as an excuse to buy a new tool." Current Tank Info: 100 Gallons!

04/01/2009, 09:57 AM	#2
TheGuyWho Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 127	The damn thing didnt even make it thru me typing this thread. Its dead. Ah Im so ****ed right now! How do things just up and die for no good reason with no warning and in no time! I took some pictures. Does anyone see anything weird on it? Because it looks completely normal to me. Maybe around the eyes it looks weird? Both look identical, and have looked like that since we got it. I thought thats just how the fish was supposed to look... Sorry the pictures aren't that pretty, plus my camera sucks! DANG IT! That was such a beautiful fIsh! He wasn't cheap either. I swear if I lose my yellow tail too Im going to put a hole in a wall! __________________ "The supreme irony of life......... .......... If nobody gets out alive.......... What's holding you back!?" "As with MOST things in life --- I used it as an excuse to buy a new tool." Current Tank Info: 100 Gallons!

04/01/2009, 11:11 AM	#5
TheGuyWho Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 127	I thought possibly stung by the nem also, but kinda hard to believe. I have a second tube anemone thats been in there since the beginning and it never bothered the fish before. Even though my new one is bright, neon, orange I still don't see how??? Plus I thought those tube anemones weren't toxic enough to the fish to kill them? I know anemone's in general are, but I was told the tube anemone was less poisonous. That really sucks if that's what did it... Cyanide!? How would that happen? And yes. 3 weeks, no signs or symptoms... __________________ "The supreme irony of life......... .......... If nobody gets out alive.......... What's holding you back!?" "As with MOST things in life --- I used it as an excuse to buy a new tool." Current Tank Info: 100 Gallons!

04/01/2009, 10:26 AM	#3
Albanets202 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Troy NY 12180 Posts: 133	3 weeks... no signs... looks like cyanide poisoning during collection.

04/01/2009, 10:52 AM	#4
lkc Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tarpon Springs Posts: 269	Or stung by the nem.