New reef tank from Vietnam - Page 2

rort · 03/28/2009, 02:28 AM

Looks great! Dont know any advice I can give you! Except to share with us what you did!

sunrise1982 · 03/28/2009, 09:36 AM

to vnreef: in fact, keeping a reef tank with basic equipiments is my goal because I know how much expensive the reef tank can cost me in long-term.

to rort: thank you for your reply. I think I still have some problems about Magnesium because I see the rapid fluctuation of KH affected by Magnesium (someone told me). Do you have any idea for that?

WaterKeeper · 03/28/2009, 09:56 AM

Some articles to guide you

Magnesium in the Reef Aquarium
Do It Yourself Magnesium Supplement
Guide to the Relationship Between Calcium, Magnesium, Alkalinity and pH
A Two Part Homemade Supplement for Calcium and Alkalinity

With the amount of snow that falls on Saigon it may be hard to get the Dowflake Magnesuim Ice Melter.

Fish_wiz2 · 03/28/2009, 10:48 PM

Quan, can you post more details about your tank? Equipment and livestock?

mattvisocky2003 · 03/29/2009, 12:17 AM

You have a good looking tank! BTW, your grammar is very well formed. Did you study English at your university?

dattong · 03/29/2009, 12:30 AM

wow, first time i've seen a tank from Vn. I'd never seen anyone keeping a reef tank when i was there. I still remember how amazed i was when i saw the lion fish for the firt time at Dam Sen Park. Anyway a very nice tank you got there Quan, Congrats!!!
You should make a trip to Hong Kong and grab some equipments from there. The tour ticket was about $300 when i was there back in 2001

sunrise1982 · 03/29/2009, 09:36 AM

to WaterKeeper: thank you very much for your useful links...I think I can learn more about it.

to mattvisocky2003: Yes, I studied English serveral years in university. I think my English is still bad and will try to learn more if I have chances to pratice.

to Fish_wiz2: my tank is very simple. I only use metal halide, Deep sand bed, skimmer, and some addititives from chemical stores. The whole structure of my tank is designed to serve my two goals: reduce cost as much as possible and keep the water as clean as possible. So, that is why I focus much on how to keep water cleanly in a cheap way.

to dattong: I think it has changed very much from the last time you were there. Although the number of fishkeepers and reefkeepers increases slowly, some people still want to own a beautiful tank in there living rooms. However, most of them will be disappointed after a few months because saltwater fish stores in Vietnam don't have knowledge in this field at all. As I know, they only buy corals and fish and resell to customers without guiding them how to keep corals and fish living in a long time. As a result, many customers lose money and quit this hobby after a few months. For those who are still in this hobby also feel discouraged because they continue to spend money hopelessly to have a beautiful tank like what the sellers said to them in the first time.

Fish_wiz2 · 03/29/2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by sunrise1982
to Fish_wiz2: my tank is very simple. I only use metal halide, Deep sand bed, skimmer, and some addititives from chemical stores. The whole structure of my tank is designed to serve my two goals: reduce cost as much as possible and keep the water as clean as possible. So, that is why I focus much on how to keep water cleanly in a cheap way.

Is it possible to list the brands or post pictures? At one time i had set up a tank for my aunt in Saigon (fresh water though) and i never saw halides or skimmers for sale (that was back in '06 though. . . ). also is the street that has all these fish shops still open (don't remember alot as it has been awhile).

Paul B · 03/29/2009, 10:21 AM

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I think my English is still bad and will try to learn more if I have chances to pratice.

Quan, don't worry about it, you speak much better English than Waterkeeper

Your tank looks beautiful and I would not hesitate to use the water from your coast, just add some artificial salt to bring up the salinity as I have to do with New York water.

I have been to Saigon many years ago but I was mostly north west of there in Tai Ninh.
There is some beautiful country there but unfortunately I never saw the ocean there.
Take care.

sunrise1982 · 03/30/2009, 09:42 AM

to Fish_wiz2:
My camera is broken and now is fixing in camera shop. So, I will post some pictures for you nextime.

I rememeber there were only about 5-6 saltwater fish shops in Saigon at that time. Most of them only have some experiences and basic knowledge about saltwaterfish. Therefore, although I learnt a lot from them, I could not keep fishes alive.

To Paul B: I think water from coasts is now very polluted, specially in Vung Tau. I see some people take the water which have low salinity and look very yellow.

WaterKeeper · 03/30/2009, 09:58 AM

I have gone swimming in the South China Sea and it is better water than you find in Long Island Sound and warmer too.

Were you losing fish to disease or were they just dying without apparent distress or disease. Sudden deaths usually echo cyanide collection and were a major cause of fish losses in the states for many years. Thankfully that practice is no longer routine.

Paul B · 03/30/2009, 10:55 AM

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I have gone swimming in the South China Sea and it is better water than you find in Long Island Sound and warmer too.

Oh really!

Yellow water is not usually a good sign

WaterKeeper · 03/30/2009, 10:57 AM

I think that is caused by silt in that area Paul and not organic content but I could be wrong.

Paul B · 03/30/2009, 11:03 AM

Don't know, some of us never had the pleasure of swimming in the South China Sea and had other things to do

But I did watch the TV show "China Beach"

reefizzhle · 04/16/2009, 06:16 PM

your tank look way better than my tank here in the US lol.. i'll be in vietnam this summer on june, i hope i can come to take a look at your tank.

03/28/2009, 02:28 AM	#26
rort Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,934	Looks great! Dont know any advice I can give you! Except to share with us what you did! __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: Aquanano 60

03/28/2009, 09:36 AM	#27
sunrise1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	to vnreef: in fact, keeping a reef tank with basic equipiments is my goal because I know how much expensive the reef tank can cost me in long-term. to rort: thank you for your reply. I think I still have some problems about Magnesium because I see the rapid fluctuation of KH affected by Magnesium (someone told me). Do you have any idea for that? __________________ quan

03/28/2009, 09:56 AM	#28
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	Some articles to guide you Magnesium in the Reef Aquarium Do It Yourself Magnesium Supplement Guide to the Relationship Between Calcium, Magnesium, Alkalinity and pH A Two Part Homemade Supplement for Calcium and Alkalinity With the amount of snow that falls on Saigon it may be hard to get the Dowflake Magnesuim Ice Melter. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

03/28/2009, 10:48 PM	#29
Fish_wiz2 Mangroves are kool. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,246	Quan, can you post more details about your tank? Equipment and livestock? __________________ -The Wiz Current Tank Info: Elos Mini Seahorse Tank, 2500 gallon Koi pond

03/29/2009, 09:36 AM	#32
sunrise1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	to WaterKeeper: thank you very much for your useful links...I think I can learn more about it. to mattvisocky2003: Yes, I studied English serveral years in university. I think my English is still bad and will try to learn more if I have chances to pratice. to Fish_wiz2: my tank is very simple. I only use metal halide, Deep sand bed, skimmer, and some addititives from chemical stores. The whole structure of my tank is designed to serve my two goals: reduce cost as much as possible and keep the water as clean as possible. So, that is why I focus much on how to keep water cleanly in a cheap way. to dattong: I think it has changed very much from the last time you were there. Although the number of fishkeepers and reefkeepers increases slowly, some people still want to own a beautiful tank in there living rooms. However, most of them will be disappointed after a few months because saltwater fish stores in Vietnam don't have knowledge in this field at all. As I know, they only buy corals and fish and resell to customers without guiding them how to keep corals and fish living in a long time. As a result, many customers lose money and quit this hobby after a few months. For those who are still in this hobby also feel discouraged because they continue to spend money hopelessly to have a beautiful tank like what the sellers said to them in the first time. __________________ quan

03/29/2009, 12:17 AM	#30
mattvisocky2003 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 354	You have a good looking tank! BTW, your grammar is very well formed. Did you study English at your university?

03/29/2009, 12:30 AM	#31
dattong Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 690	wow, first time i've seen a tank from Vn. I'd never seen anyone keeping a reef tank when i was there. I still remember how amazed i was when i saw the lion fish for the firt time at Dam Sen Park. Anyway a very nice tank you got there Quan, Congrats!!! You should make a trip to Hong Kong and grab some equipments from there. The tour ticket was about $300 when i was there back in 2001

03/30/2009, 09:42 AM	#35
sunrise1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	to Fish_wiz2: My camera is broken and now is fixing in camera shop. So, I will post some pictures for you nextime. I rememeber there were only about 5-6 saltwater fish shops in Saigon at that time. Most of them only have some experiences and basic knowledge about saltwaterfish. Therefore, although I learnt a lot from them, I could not keep fishes alive. To Paul B: I think water from coasts is now very polluted, specially in Vung Tau. I see some people take the water which have low salinity and look very yellow. __________________ quan

03/30/2009, 09:58 AM	#36
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	I have gone swimming in the South China Sea and it is better water than you find in Long Island Sound and warmer too. Were you losing fish to disease or were they just dying without apparent distress or disease. Sudden deaths usually echo cyanide collection and were a major cause of fish losses in the states for many years. Thankfully that practice is no longer routine. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

03/30/2009, 10:57 AM	#38
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	I think that is caused by silt in that area Paul and not organic content but I could be wrong. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

03/30/2009, 11:03 AM	#39
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Don't know, some of us never had the pleasure of swimming in the South China Sea and had other things to do But I did watch the TV show "China Beach" __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

04/16/2009, 06:16 PM	#40
reefizzhle Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: So_Cal Posts: 19	your tank look way better than my tank here in the US lol.. i'll be in vietnam this summer on june, i hope i can come to take a look at your tank.