Need some advice

1602reefer · 04/22/2009, 10:17 AM

I have had a constant outbreak of Ich in my tank and have decided to go the raise the temperature route for 7 weeks. And I think I'm going to completely redo my aqua scape to get better flow. I've already had two fish die because of this. My question is I have a 30 gal tank that I was going to use for quarantine and was wondering can I put all my corals in there also? I have a good size frogspawn, A pocillopora, a acropora, a favia, a birdsnest, some green bubble coral, some zoo's, and a mushroom colony. And should I go bare bottom with a few pieces of live rock? And should I use water from the tank or start with fresh sea water? I get my water from an oceanography institute by my house, do you think I should just start the quarantine with the fresh sea water or mix it with some of my tank water? Oh and one more question,will my coral won't carry the ich with them or are they not suceptible? Thanks, I need to make decisions soon.

Rjukan · 04/22/2009, 10:29 AM

If I were you I would just put the fish in the QT so you can treat them. Unfortunately the ich can be on the coral/rock and it's going to have to be fishless for 8 weeks. During that time you can do all of your re-aquascaping at least. Also I would just use your tank water for the QT to start so the fish are less stressed and use new water for water changes.

1602reefer · 04/22/2009, 10:52 AM

So leave the corals in the display tank even with temperature raise? The raise won't effect them? Funny thing I'm more concerned about the well being of my corals because I've invested more money into them

WaterKeeper · 04/22/2009, 11:07 AM

Are you trying to rid a tank of Cryptocaryon (SW ich) by raising the temperature alone? That works for FW ich but not the SW type. Place all the fish in the hospital tank and use the methods Outlined here to combat the disease. Although the ich is present in the display it will die off in a little over a month without a fish to use as a host.

1602reefer · 04/22/2009, 01:27 PM

Waterkeeper, What has worked best for you? And you are saying just leave all the corals in the tank and perform normal water changes and cal/alk additives? And should I put any live rock in the QT?

Gtstricky · 04/22/2009, 01:40 PM

He is saying do not treat the tank. With no fish the parisite will not survive much more then a month. Coral can stay in. Check or levels and adjust as needed. Treat the fish in the QT tank with either copper or hyposalinity.

The link he provide has all the info.

Sisterlimonpot · 04/22/2009, 04:45 PM

Between copper and hypo everyone has differing opinions on them both. Read and make a decision based on your findings. As far as LR in the QT tank, if you do, I would advise against putting it back into the display after treating the QT. a better substrate would be pieces of PVC for the fish to hide in.

WaterKeeper · 04/22/2009, 04:57 PM

You got it Sis,

If the QT is not treated with meds or hypo, then decorate it as you like but, if you are treating sick fish, then place them in a bare bones hospital tank. That way the meds don't reach the inverts.

Aquarist007 · 04/22/2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by WaterKeeper
Are you trying to rid a tank of Cryptocaryon (SW ich) by raising the temperature alone? That works for FW ich but not the SW type. Place all the fish in the hospital tank and use the methods Outlined here to combat the disease. Although the ich is present in the display it will die off in a little over a month without a fish to use as a host.

just checking here--how many fish do you have and what size of a qt tank.
I would not put more then two fish at a time in a 10-15 gal qt especially if you have not established filtration yet

eg use a hob filter on the display tank for 3 days and then transfer it over. Plus add a piece of live rock at first until you decide what treatment you are going to use. If using hyposalination you don't need to worry about the rock but if using copper as already suggested you will want to remove that rock first

Aquarist007 · 04/22/2009, 05:06 PM

I am also glad that Wk pointed out that raising the temp does not work on marine ich.
also he mentioned briefly but in case it was missed---the tank needs to remain fishless for 4 weeks.

04/22/2009, 10:17 AM	#1
1602reefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	Need some advice I have had a constant outbreak of Ich in my tank and have decided to go the raise the temperature route for 7 weeks. And I think I'm going to completely redo my aqua scape to get better flow. I've already had two fish die because of this. My question is I have a 30 gal tank that I was going to use for quarantine and was wondering can I put all my corals in there also? I have a good size frogspawn, A pocillopora, a acropora, a favia, a birdsnest, some green bubble coral, some zoo's, and a mushroom colony. And should I go bare bottom with a few pieces of live rock? And should I use water from the tank or start with fresh sea water? I get my water from an oceanography institute by my house, do you think I should just start the quarantine with the fresh sea water or mix it with some of my tank water? Oh and one more question,will my coral won't carry the ich with them or are they not suceptible? Thanks, I need to make decisions soon. __________________ want to learn. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef tank, 4 x 54 watt t5 light, 60+ lbs of figi live rock, backpack2 skimmer, 2 korallia 3's.

04/22/2009, 10:29 AM	#2
Rjukan Day Dreamer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SINY Posts: 625	If I were you I would just put the fish in the QT so you can treat them. Unfortunately the ich can be on the coral/rock and it's going to have to be fishless for 8 weeks. During that time you can do all of your re-aquascaping at least. Also I would just use your tank water for the QT to start so the fish are less stressed and use new water for water changes. __________________ - Pete Current Tank Info: 60 gal Deep Blue cube, AquaC EV180, Kessil H80 fuge, A360WE TB

04/22/2009, 10:52 AM	#3
1602reefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	So leave the corals in the display tank even with temperature raise? The raise won't effect them? Funny thing I'm more concerned about the well being of my corals because I've invested more money into them __________________ want to learn. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef tank, 4 x 54 watt t5 light, 60+ lbs of figi live rock, backpack2 skimmer, 2 korallia 3's.

04/22/2009, 11:07 AM	#4
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	Are you trying to rid a tank of Cryptocaryon (SW ich) by raising the temperature alone? That works for FW ich but not the SW type. Place all the fish in the hospital tank and use the methods Outlined here to combat the disease. Although the ich is present in the display it will die off in a little over a month without a fish to use as a host. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

04/22/2009, 01:27 PM	#5
1602reefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	Waterkeeper, What has worked best for you? And you are saying just leave all the corals in the tank and perform normal water changes and cal/alk additives? And should I put any live rock in the QT? __________________ want to learn. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef tank, 4 x 54 watt t5 light, 60+ lbs of figi live rock, backpack2 skimmer, 2 korallia 3's.

04/22/2009, 01:40 PM	#6
Gtstricky Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kennett Sq, PA Posts: 496	He is saying do not treat the tank. With no fish the parisite will not survive much more then a month. Coral can stay in. Check or levels and adjust as needed. Treat the fish in the QT tank with either copper or hyposalinity. The link he provide has all the info.

04/22/2009, 04:45 PM	#7
Sisterlimonpot R.C. Fraternity President Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Litchfeild Park AZ Posts: 11,490 Blog Entries: 2	Between copper and hypo everyone has differing opinions on them both. Read and make a decision based on your findings. As far as LR in the QT tank, if you do, I would advise against putting it back into the display after treating the QT. a better substrate would be pieces of PVC for the fish to hide in. __________________ Jimmy MASVC President Dishes are done man! Current Tank Info: 300 in progress

04/22/2009, 04:57 PM	#8
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	You got it Sis, If the QT is not treated with meds or hypo, then decorate it as you like but, if you are treating sick fish, then place them in a bare bones hospital tank. That way the meds don't reach the inverts. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

04/22/2009, 05:06 PM	#10
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	I am also glad that Wk pointed out that raising the temp does not work on marine ich. also he mentioned briefly but in case it was missed---the tank needs to remain fishless for 4 weeks. __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock