Help Xenias

king1966 · 04/27/2009, 08:04 PM

I HAVE A HARDTIME KEEPING XENIAS IT WAS NICE AT FIRST WHEN I BROUGHT IT, THAN IT STARTED SLOWLY THINNING AWAY BUT THE REST OF THE CAROLS IS DOING GREAT. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?

MY WATER CONDITION IS:

CALCIUM 420
MAG 1320
ALK 10-12
PH 8.3
NIT NONE
PHOS NONE

redfishsc · 04/27/2009, 08:08 PM

A couple of things--

Don't type in all capitals, por favor

it is the electronic equivalent of SHOUTING.

Now that being said, get up in the middle of the night and check your pH.

If it's under 8.0 then this is part of your problem. Most xeniids HATE low pH.

Mine cannot stand it.

To solve the nighttime pH drop, run your refugium (or add one) with lights on ONLY at night when your main tank lights are off.

TONS of benefits to doing this (notice me raising my voice on that one

)

Also, if your nitrates and phosphates really are 0, then expect your xenia to not be all that happy--- -xenia kinda likes water with some nutrients in it.

Xenia can quickly over-run an older, "dirty" tank.

kb27973 · 04/27/2009, 08:11 PM

Yeah it's funny but in my last tank I couldn't keep xenia alive. In my current tank I can't kill it. Where do you have it in your tank? Is it getting light and good flow? Maybe you need some NO3 in your water. What kind is it brown, blue, white?

Ken

king1966 · 04/27/2009, 08:25 PM

Sorry redfishcs did not know caps means shouting. I will give that a try to test my ph at night will let you know if thats the problem thank you. My xenia is white.

Ehaze · 04/27/2009, 08:39 PM

Feed more? less lighting, more lighting??? more stats please!

kb27973 · 04/27/2009, 08:44 PM

King1966 - I would try moving it around to see if you find a spot it likes better.

Ehaze - You're in Thornton? I used to live at 104th and Colorado. Now I'm out in Brighton.

Ken

king1966 · 04/28/2009, 01:03 AM

Ehaze I feed every other day phytoplankin 6hours of metal halide 12 hours of actinic.

reefD · 04/28/2009, 01:09 AM

xenia are a funny coral...if ur tank is under 14 months throw everything out that u heard...wait till the tank is mature then try again and above info will help.

reefD · 04/28/2009, 01:12 AM

the key word u said..every other coral is fine so u must be doing sumting right...again xenias are fussie...just dont get anymore if tabk is under 14 months then try again...if tank is old ...check your nutrients...xenia dont tolerate water chemistry issues very well...when water is right they are weed!

also search xenia care as ull find there are a strange coral thats east care but some cant keep...

bgraves · 04/28/2009, 03:33 AM

I acutally threw 5 stalks away due to it taking over a corner of my tank. I also found out that a LFS will give you credit if you can frag it and it and bring it to them. I have a low ph of 8.0-8.1. other parameters

1.023
nitrate 0
nitrite 0
phosphate 0
ph 8.08
81deg
cal 360 a lil low
alk 13dkh a lil high

this was as of last night.

Ehaze · 04/28/2009, 08:15 AM

Yea, I tossed a huge colony away, I can't stand the stuff, it took over a huge part, I think it was like 2lbs of flesh/water in it(when I ripped it off)

chimmike · 04/28/2009, 08:30 AM

not sure I'd worry about xenia not growing. That stuff is the equivalent of a pesky weed.

Lt.Dan · 04/28/2009, 09:10 AM

I suggest not adding xenia to any tank. I run GFO and have a fuge and the pom pom has to be cut out all the time or it will block other corals. The LFS gives next to nothing for credit so its easier to flush than try to get credit.

04/27/2009, 08:04 PM	#1
king1966 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: alaska Posts: 22	Help Xenias I HAVE A HARDTIME KEEPING XENIAS IT WAS NICE AT FIRST WHEN I BROUGHT IT, THAN IT STARTED SLOWLY THINNING AWAY BUT THE REST OF THE CAROLS IS DOING GREAT. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? MY WATER CONDITION IS: CALCIUM 420 MAG 1320 ALK 10-12 PH 8.3 NIT NONE PHOS NONE

04/27/2009, 08:08 PM	#2
redfishsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,696	A couple of things-- Don't type in all capitals, por favor it is the electronic equivalent of SHOUTING. Now that being said, get up in the middle of the night and check your pH. If it's under 8.0 then this is part of your problem. Most xeniids HATE low pH. Mine cannot stand it. To solve the nighttime pH drop, run your refugium (or add one) with lights on ONLY at night when your main tank lights are off. TONS of benefits to doing this (notice me raising my voice on that one ) Also, if your nitrates and phosphates really are 0, then expect your xenia to not be all that happy--- -xenia kinda likes water with some nutrients in it. Xenia can quickly over-run an older, "dirty" tank. __________________ "The measure of a life is not its duration but its donation." Corrie Ten Boom “The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins” -- Søren Kierkegaard Current Tank Info: ghetto grad school reef.....11g rimless tank, 36X9X9, lit by Cree and Rebels scobbled together. Stocked mostly with free stuff I got from panhandling my fellow reefers.

04/27/2009, 08:11 PM	#3
kb27973 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 715	Yeah it's funny but in my last tank I couldn't keep xenia alive. In my current tank I can't kill it. Where do you have it in your tank? Is it getting light and good flow? Maybe you need some NO3 in your water. What kind is it brown, blue, white? Ken __________________ Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the prospect is staggering! - Arthur C. Clarke Current Tank Info: 125G SPS - Regal Angel (3 yrs and going), Pascalus Anthia, Bartletts Anthias, spawning pairs of Six Line Wrasse, Mandarin Gobies, P. Fridmani, Gold Stripe Maroon Clowns

04/27/2009, 08:39 PM	#5
Ehaze Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 1,259	Feed more? less lighting, more lighting??? more stats please! __________________ 75g SPS tank, 30gal sump/refuge. Melev RO/DI, Coravue duel calc reactor, MSP 200 skimmer, 2 Vortech MP40, Mag drive 9.5 return, autotopoff.com ATO, 2 CoralVue 250W SE finished pendants(with 20k Radium bulbs), powered by 2x Icecap ballasts, controlled by a ACJR.

04/27/2009, 08:44 PM	#6
kb27973 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 715	King1966 - I would try moving it around to see if you find a spot it likes better. Ehaze - You're in Thornton? I used to live at 104th and Colorado. Now I'm out in Brighton. Ken __________________ Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the prospect is staggering! - Arthur C. Clarke Current Tank Info: 125G SPS - Regal Angel (3 yrs and going), Pascalus Anthia, Bartletts Anthias, spawning pairs of Six Line Wrasse, Mandarin Gobies, P. Fridmani, Gold Stripe Maroon Clowns

04/27/2009, 08:25 PM	#4
king1966 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: alaska Posts: 22	Sorry redfishcs did not know caps means shouting. I will give that a try to test my ph at night will let you know if thats the problem thank you. My xenia is white.

04/28/2009, 01:03 AM	#7
king1966 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: alaska Posts: 22	Ehaze I feed every other day phytoplankin 6hours of metal halide 12 hours of actinic.

04/28/2009, 01:09 AM	#8
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	xenia are a funny coral...if ur tank is under 14 months throw everything out that u heard...wait till the tank is mature then try again and above info will help. __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

04/28/2009, 01:12 AM	#9
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	the key word u said..every other coral is fine so u must be doing sumting right...again xenias are fussie...just dont get anymore if tabk is under 14 months then try again...if tank is old ...check your nutrients...xenia dont tolerate water chemistry issues very well...when water is right they are weed! also search xenia care as ull find there are a strange coral thats east care but some cant keep... __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

04/28/2009, 03:33 AM	#10
bgraves Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 366	I acutally threw 5 stalks away due to it taking over a corner of my tank. I also found out that a LFS will give you credit if you can frag it and it and bring it to them. I have a low ph of 8.0-8.1. other parameters 1.023 nitrate 0 nitrite 0 phosphate 0 ph 8.08 81deg cal 360 a lil low alk 13dkh a lil high this was as of last night.

04/28/2009, 08:15 AM	#11
Ehaze Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 1,259	Yea, I tossed a huge colony away, I can't stand the stuff, it took over a huge part, I think it was like 2lbs of flesh/water in it(when I ripped it off) __________________ 75g SPS tank, 30gal sump/refuge. Melev RO/DI, Coravue duel calc reactor, MSP 200 skimmer, 2 Vortech MP40, Mag drive 9.5 return, autotopoff.com ATO, 2 CoralVue 250W SE finished pendants(with 20k Radium bulbs), powered by 2x Icecap ballasts, controlled by a ACJR.

04/28/2009, 08:30 AM	#12
chimmike oxygen abuser Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 2	not sure I'd worry about xenia not growing. That stuff is the equivalent of a pesky weed. __________________ -Mike Tankless wonder Geaux Noles!

04/28/2009, 09:10 AM	#13
Lt.Dan Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 52	I suggest not adding xenia to any tank. I run GFO and have a fuge and the pom pom has to be cut out all the time or it will block other corals. The LFS gives next to nothing for credit so its easier to flush than try to get credit.