J Juice alternative?

jjlove · 05/28/2009, 04:55 PM

okay, so ive had alot of luck with J Juice for aptasia BUT was told i could use straight calcium instead. is it true?

Agu · 05/28/2009, 04:57 PM

Pickling lime or Kalk mix from the LFS are essentially the same thing as Joes Juice.

staninct · 05/28/2009, 05:00 PM

Take some Kalkwasser and mix it with RO water - use enough so it just barely dilutes. Then inject using a syringe into the base of the majano/aptasia. Many people prefer to make a paste out of it, but I can't see how that is easily applied under water.

jjlove · 05/28/2009, 05:00 PM

Pickling lime, like from the grocer?

xJake · 05/28/2009, 05:52 PM

Here is the patent for Joe's Juice. You be the judge...

http://www.google.com/patents?id=KfZ-AAAAEBAJ&dq

If you don't feel like reading through it, then here is the basic premise...
"An anemone killing mixture comprises effective amounts of calcium hydroxide and non-iodized salt dissolved into and mixed in boiling purified water."

Basically it's just calcium hydroxide (kalkwasser, pickling lime, etc.), salt, and some water. It dumbfounds me that people still actually spend their money on Joe's Juice.

Agu · 05/28/2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by jjlove
Pickling lime, like from the grocer?

That's the stuff. I use it instead of Kalk for topoff and to kill aiptasia

gutter · 05/28/2009, 07:57 PM

I injected some aiptasia with b-ionic a few years ago, dont remember which bottle I used. It worked on the first try though. If i remember correctly half is for alk and half is calc, i'd assume i used the calc half.

snorvich · 05/28/2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by jjlove
Pickling lime, like from the grocer?

Yes. I use Mrs. Wages mixed with RO water and glycerol.

05/28/2009, 04:55 PM	#1
jjlove Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 236	J Juice alternative? okay, so ive had alot of luck with J Juice for aptasia BUT was told i could use straight calcium instead. is it true?

05/28/2009, 04:57 PM	#2
Agu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 30,279	Pickling lime or Kalk mix from the LFS are essentially the same thing as Joes Juice. __________________ Less technology , more biology . Current Tank Info: 30 gallon half cube and 5.5, both reef tanks

05/28/2009, 05:00 PM	#3
staninct Zoanthid/SPS Killer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Branford, CT 06405 Posts: 1,660	Take some Kalkwasser and mix it with RO water - use enough so it just barely dilutes. Then inject using a syringe into the base of the majano/aptasia. Many people prefer to make a paste out of it, but I can't see how that is easily applied under water. __________________ Cheers! Stan Current Tank Info: 58g w/ 20g sump/fuge, TX5 T5s, Tunze 6045s and SC150 Skimmer

05/28/2009, 05:52 PM	#5
xJake Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,385	Here is the patent for Joe's Juice. You be the judge... http://www.google.com/patents?id=KfZ-AAAAEBAJ&dq If you don't feel like reading through it, then here is the basic premise... "An anemone killing mixture comprises effective amounts of calcium hydroxide and non-iodized salt dissolved into and mixed in boiling purified water." Basically it's just calcium hydroxide (kalkwasser, pickling lime, etc.), salt, and some water. It dumbfounds me that people still actually spend their money on Joe's Juice.

05/28/2009, 07:57 PM	#7
gutter Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34	I injected some aiptasia with b-ionic a few years ago, dont remember which bottle I used. It worked on the first try though. If i remember correctly half is for alk and half is calc, i'd assume i used the calc half.