Chemi-pure Elite Question

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 07:35 PM

Has any one used this stuff to help battle nitrates and phosphates? I was told to just put the bag in the sump in a high flow area and it will work. If I put it in the sump should I put it before or after the cheato? Because dosent' the cheato need the nitrates to grow?

Matthewe · 08/04/2009, 08:20 PM

I have used it. Buy regular chemi-pure and use GFO for PO$ removal. I thing they overstate their claims. I used chemi pure exclusively changing it monthly for discus in freshwater and it worked great. I am now trying bulkreefsupply.com carbon to see how well it works in my reef tank.

Matt

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 08:41 PM

Thanks. Now I just need to find out if I should put it before the chanber with the cheato in it or after.

ReefWreak · 08/04/2009, 08:44 PM

I love it, and use it now and then in my reef tank. I don't expect it to reduce nitrates, but it reduces organics and other crap from the water column, and clears up my water very quickly. Highly recommended

I would put it after the cheato, to absorb the "gelbstoff" that comes from the algae in the refugium.

badwrasse · 08/04/2009, 08:46 PM

we need cheato to consume nitrates 'not' feed the cheato nitrates in other words if own tanks didn't produce nitrates, cheato's only purpose would be to grow pods and liverock will do that. So don't worry if there is no nitrates for the cheato because thats the goal anyway. Don't worry the cheato won't starve it feeds of the light too and nitrate only aids in its growth.

On to the chemi-pure IMO you shouldn't use a chemical to battle water chemistry"problems", there are exceptions but it is usualy when something is low like Ca or Mg. Find out why you have phosphates or nitrates and fix that problem first but nomatter what you can bet it will end in a water change any way.

low flow.
flake food.
tap water
and lack of water changes are all 'some' of the things that can phos and/or trate problems

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 08:53 PM

badwrasse, I can't figure out why I have a po4 and nitrate problem. I was doing a 20 gal water change every week, now I'm doing a 3-6 gal change every other day and still have the problem. I use only RO/DI and feed frozen food after it has been thawed and drained and I have lots of flow.

badwrasse · 08/04/2009, 09:28 PM

are you over feeding? you might need to run phosban or gfo if your live rock aborbed some. do you run carbon?

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 09:31 PM

I barley feed them as it is. No, I don't run any carbon or anything. I know it sounds dumb, but what is gfo?

badwrasse · 08/04/2009, 09:40 PM

its a media for removing phosphates same thing as phosban in a nutshell.

badwrasse · 08/04/2009, 09:42 PM

please describe you system to me how many powerhead what size what skimmer what test you use how many fish, what fish etc.

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 09:43 PM

ok, thanks. I'm going to let this chemi-pure run for a couple of days and see if there is a change if not then I guess I will have to get phosban or gfo.

seapug · 08/04/2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badwrasse
its a media for removing phosphates same thing as phosban in a nutshell.

Exactly, it's regular chemi pure with GFO (granular ferric oxide) added. GFO is very good for reducing phosphate, but if you really want to deal with phosphate, get a PhosBan reactor setup. A few bags of chemi-pure elite will cost the same and the reactor will be more effective.

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 09:47 PM

I have 4 koralias 2 #4's, a #2 and a#3. I use API test kit and I don't know what brand name skimmer it is, it came with the tank. I turned my old 55 gal tank into my sump. My DT is 85gal.

wondermidget · 08/04/2009, 09:53 PM

seapug, this stuff says it has ferric oxide in it. I will have to use this for a few days at least untill I can get a PhosBan reactor. By the way sweet tank and congrats on the tank of the month.

badwrasse · 08/04/2009, 10:34 PM

mabe run your skimmer a little wet too. and one more question how deep is your sandbed

08/04/2009, 07:35 PM	#1
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	Chemi-pure Elite Question Has any one used this stuff to help battle nitrates and phosphates? I was told to just put the bag in the sump in a high flow area and it will work. If I put it in the sump should I put it before or after the cheato? Because dosent' the cheato need the nitrates to grow? __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 08:46 PM	#5
badwrasse Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. louis Posts: 1,203	we need cheato to consume nitrates 'not' feed the cheato nitrates in other words if own tanks didn't produce nitrates, cheato's only purpose would be to grow pods and liverock will do that. So don't worry if there is no nitrates for the cheato because thats the goal anyway. Don't worry the cheato won't starve it feeds of the light too and nitrate only aids in its growth. On to the chemi-pure IMO you shouldn't use a chemical to battle water chemistry"problems", there are exceptions but it is usualy when something is low like Ca or Mg. Find out why you have phosphates or nitrates and fix that problem first but nomatter what you can bet it will end in a water change any way. low flow. flake food. tap water and lack of water changes are all 'some' of the things that can phos and/or trate problems __________________ GOT CRABS? Current Tank Info: 90gal RR,rock wall in progress, MRC sump, reef octopus XP2000I skimmer, marineland pro lighting 2-150w MH 4-54w T5's, hydor wavemaker with 2 #4 controllable pumps, and QuietOne 4000HH return pump.

08/04/2009, 08:53 PM	#6
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	badwrasse, I can't figure out why I have a po4 and nitrate problem. I was doing a 20 gal water change every week, now I'm doing a 3-6 gal change every other day and still have the problem. I use only RO/DI and feed frozen food after it has been thawed and drained and I have lots of flow. __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 09:28 PM	#7
badwrasse Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. louis Posts: 1,203	are you over feeding? you might need to run phosban or gfo if your live rock aborbed some. do you run carbon? __________________ GOT CRABS? Current Tank Info: 90gal RR,rock wall in progress, MRC sump, reef octopus XP2000I skimmer, marineland pro lighting 2-150w MH 4-54w T5's, hydor wavemaker with 2 #4 controllable pumps, and QuietOne 4000HH return pump.

08/04/2009, 09:31 PM	#8
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	I barley feed them as it is. No, I don't run any carbon or anything. I know it sounds dumb, but what is gfo? __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 08:20 PM	#2
Matthewe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3	I have used it. Buy regular chemi-pure and use GFO for PO$ removal. I thing they overstate their claims. I used chemi pure exclusively changing it monthly for discus in freshwater and it worked great. I am now trying bulkreefsupply.com carbon to see how well it works in my reef tank. Matt

08/04/2009, 08:41 PM	#3
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	Thanks. Now I just need to find out if I should put it before the chanber with the cheato in it or after. __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 08:44 PM	#4
ReefWreak Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Astoria, NYC Posts: 10,159	I love it, and use it now and then in my reef tank. I don't expect it to reduce nitrates, but it reduces organics and other crap from the water column, and clears up my water very quickly. Highly recommended I would put it after the cheato, to absorb the "gelbstoff" that comes from the algae in the refugium.

08/04/2009, 09:40 PM	#9
badwrasse Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. louis Posts: 1,203	its a media for removing phosphates same thing as phosban in a nutshell. __________________ GOT CRABS? Current Tank Info: 90gal RR,rock wall in progress, MRC sump, reef octopus XP2000I skimmer, marineland pro lighting 2-150w MH 4-54w T5's, hydor wavemaker with 2 #4 controllable pumps, and QuietOne 4000HH return pump.

08/04/2009, 09:42 PM	#10
badwrasse Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. louis Posts: 1,203	please describe you system to me how many powerhead what size what skimmer what test you use how many fish, what fish etc. __________________ GOT CRABS? Current Tank Info: 90gal RR,rock wall in progress, MRC sump, reef octopus XP2000I skimmer, marineland pro lighting 2-150w MH 4-54w T5's, hydor wavemaker with 2 #4 controllable pumps, and QuietOne 4000HH return pump.

08/04/2009, 09:43 PM	#11
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	ok, thanks. I'm going to let this chemi-pure run for a couple of days and see if there is a change if not then I guess I will have to get phosban or gfo. __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 09:47 PM	#13
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	I have 4 koralias 2 #4's, a #2 and a#3. I use API test kit and I don't know what brand name skimmer it is, it came with the tank. I turned my old 55 gal tank into my sump. My DT is 85gal. __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 09:53 PM	#14
wondermidget Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadillac, MI (BFE) Posts: 279	seapug, this stuff says it has ferric oxide in it. I will have to use this for a few days at least untill I can get a PhosBan reactor. By the way sweet tank and congrats on the tank of the month. __________________ Cheri Current Tank Info: 85 gal. reef.

08/04/2009, 10:34 PM	#15
badwrasse Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. louis Posts: 1,203	mabe run your skimmer a little wet too. and one more question how deep is your sandbed __________________ GOT CRABS? Current Tank Info: 90gal RR,rock wall in progress, MRC sump, reef octopus XP2000I skimmer, marineland pro lighting 2-150w MH 4-54w T5's, hydor wavemaker with 2 #4 controllable pumps, and QuietOne 4000HH return pump.