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Unread 09/04/2009, 01:55 PM   #126
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you can feed sharks everyday. and the skimmer is the best way to clean your water IMO. i'm not trying to just put you down and i shouldn't even be posting this thread because apparently i'm an idiot but i've hatched a baby banded cat shark out of an egg and it wasn't easy to take care of and eventually died. i really want a shark too but i just don't have the room ATM. so i know you think that your going to spend very little and it won't cost much to do but it will. no matter if you DIY everything or not. that will save you maybe a few hundred. your still looking at at LEAST. 5-6 grand. i spent close to 12 grand on my 180g and i know a shark tank will be at least close to the same price minus the lights, tank and CA rx because your building your own tank i guess. and how old are you if you don't mind me asking?
Congrats... you spent alot of money on a 180 lol I spent less then 500 on my 20 and thats including all livestock, 250w MH lighting... as well as a 75gallon that I am trading straight up for my 125 that I am getting along with.... I already have 6' of lighting for a bigger tank.. $30. I have a 1200 gph pump that I paid $25 for, timers got them too, powerheads..yup, I have 1 decent skimmer already, but it would be underrated for a tank of this size, but I could use it to suppliment the one(s) I would build. Oh yeah and a 100 gallon rubbermaid tank, again all for under $500. So yeah, I really don't think it would cost me all that much to set it up even if I went 8x8x4 with a plywood tank.

As stated above... Yes I am 26, your point??


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:00 PM   #127
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6 fish fed 3-4 times a day in a skimmerless 20 gallon sounds like a pretty heavy bioload. From what I understand of them (having never kept sharks or rays myself) they require very nutrient poor water or they stop eating. I would look at testing the limits of a DIY filtration setup before you get to the stage of actually putting a shark in.


And since folks keep asking; according to his birthdate on his profile he is 26.
Yeah it is a heavy bioload, however I have no problems and water quality is good. I use cabon and cheato... thats it. Like I said though I plan to do more if I even do the shark tank.

Yup 26, still don't see what it matters though.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:01 PM   #128
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You're an idiot... you're 100% correct, but an idiot. So am I. lol

Experience speaks volumes. 12 grand! Whoa. But did you put a venturi in a garbage pail? You coulda saved a FORTUNE! This should be considered the most important post in this thread.

Ah, its all in good fun. It fun to daydream about it, Chort. Imagination is free, and nothing dies. I would be lost without mine.
Yup great experience.... his died lol


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:13 PM   #129
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so why are all your responses very rude towards me? i try to help and you say something completely uncalled for? i asked your age because maybe your were just young and thats why you were being so immature but clearly you just have a maturity issue. i am only 16 and i act more mature then you. i honestly hope you do get a shark in the future but i hope it's under the right conditions and you have a very large tank with adequate filtration. have a good day.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:16 PM   #130
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and mine died because i was inexperienced and i was just like you. ignorant and didn't listen to what anyone told me. i did what i wanted to do. now almost 2 years later i understand why people tell me things and i listen to them even if i don't like the answer. i didn't have the proper set up for a shark and thats why it died.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:44 PM   #131
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I don't see what building a house has to do with it, sorry... and the age question comes in because of a response like that. And I read your signature, and I wonder. I never thought to look at the profile, if its correct... and a reluctance to answer.

What I am saying is somethings you can DIY, and some things you can not, effectively at least. I mean I could build a killer skimmer, for a modest bio-load tank, and I could save a fortune. It would be big and ugly but it would do the job. But a task of this size, I just don't see that happening. Like building a house, using your example... you BUY windows. You don't stick some glass in some frames, and call it a window. You buy a bathtub, instead of just hollowing out a portion of the basement floor, and filling it with bubbles. And the tank... again... is the LEAST of the worries. A big box full of water. Perfect. You're done. Its EVERYTHING else that will make or break this project, and the life of this wee fish.
This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read! I can just imagine the bath tub. I just hope the wood tank doesn't leak. There is no way I would consider building something that had to hold all that weight without help form someone who is experienced in tank building. But I'm not the handiest person either.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:46 PM   #132
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so why are all your responses very rude towards me? i try to help and you say something completely uncalled for? i asked your age because maybe your were just young and thats why you were being so immature but clearly you just have a maturity issue. i am only 16 and i act more mature then you. i honestly hope you do get a shark in the future but i hope it's under the right conditions and you have a very large tank with adequate filtration. have a good day.
Goes to show age does not equal maturity. You are a well mannered 16 year old, I must say... Wise beyond your years, so to speak.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 02:47 PM   #133
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This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read! I can just imagine the bath tub. I just hope the wood tank doesn't leak. There is no way I would consider building something that had to hold all that weight without help form someone who is experienced in tank building. But I'm not the handiest person either.
lol, it is a pretty funny thing to consider! lol


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Unread 09/04/2009, 03:06 PM   #134
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Goes to show age does not equal maturity. You are a well mannered 16 year old, I must say... Wise beyond your years, so to speak.
thank you.


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Unread 09/04/2009, 03:29 PM   #135
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so why are all your responses very rude towards me? i try to help and you say something completely uncalled for? i asked your age because maybe your were just young and thats why you were being so immature but clearly you just have a maturity issue. i am only 16 and i act more mature then you. i honestly hope you do get a shark in the future but i hope it's under the right conditions and you have a very large tank with adequate filtration. have a good day.
Lets see....
1. Your 1st post was entirely pointless (as most of them have been in this thread).
2. You decided to side with someone who admited to not reading the entire thread, and that I should not be calling anyone idiots (which until I called you an idiot for thinking I was the one calling everyone idiots and what not I had not called a single person an idiot.... although that douch from canada is one as well).
3. You think I am some little punk kid who is just like yourself, young and nieve. Sorry, I have already realized my plan needed more thought and a bigger tank so like I have said about 320384 times now... I plan to wait until I can give the shark a bigger and better home IF I EVEN DECIDE TO GET ONE. I already plan to research the hell out of it, did before I even made my 1st post about it here.
4. After 3 pages you finally decide to say something about you actually having one, and it died. Sorry if I don't find your advice all that helpful. Ever thing feeding it daily helped cause the water to not be so good which may have had a partial cause in its death??
5. Now your claiming you spent 12 grand on your 180... guessing by your age mommy/daddy may have spent that much but you probably didn't. And your guessing it would cost 5-6grand for my rough plan, which I highly doubt due to my extensive DIY plans.
6. I do not have a maturity problem, I have a problem with people running their mouth. All I asked was a simple question and people wanted to go on about other things that really weren't part of the question at hand. I was planning on asking other questions in the future when I gather more info and have more questions to ask. As I have said I do not plan on doing this if I even do it for atleast another 1-2 years. I just wanted to know if I could put it in a reef type environment.

Did that answer your question??


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Unread 09/04/2009, 03:31 PM   #136
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This mess has gone on long enough.

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