Moon lighting? - Page 2

jyuen · 09/23/2009, 09:06 PM

if you do that, how will the unit simulate the moon cycle? sorry... may be a dumb question.

Aqua Keepers · 09/23/2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by jyuen
if you do that, how will the unit simulate the moon cycle? sorry... may be a dumb question.

Actually, that's a good question, and I'm glad you brought it up. Now that I think of it, I never used the moon cycle with a timer. When I used the timer, I had manually adjusted them where I liked them, and left them there.

cubsare1 · 09/24/2009, 06:48 AM

I leave mine on all the time and mine cycles thru the cycle

jyuen · 09/24/2009, 10:58 AM

so it'll also cycle thoughout the day?

DetroitCrow · 09/24/2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by jyuen
:-( guess i'll have to wait to hear back from fishbowl

I got a reply, they are saying the eta might be 2 months from now

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Originally posted by Aqua Keepers
Honestly, there's no reason to even turn them off during the day. Most people run moonlights 24/7. They barely use any power, and turning them off does not extend their life at all.

Well since the computer isn't going to be avil for about 2 months I might just get the step down model and run it 24/7 plus its like $30 cheaper...

jyuen · 09/24/2009, 11:23 AM

wow... hum gotta think on that... thx for the update!

DetroitCrow · 09/24/2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by jyuen
if you do that, how will the unit simulate the moon cycle? sorry... may be a dumb question.

if used with a timer it will not cycle correctly thru the moon cycle, he said if the timer was on a 12 hour run per night the moon cycle would be more like 60 days long insted of the 29.5 days, so I'm just going to leave them on 24/7 and let it run the 29.5 day moon cycle..

cubsare1 · 09/24/2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by jyuen
so it'll also cycle thoughout the day?

No, it cycle over a month not all in one day.
p.s. make sure to keep them away from water. They are not sealed up and just a little water will kill them. Trust me I know

DetroitCrow · 09/28/2009, 06:14 PM

These look like the same type of setup at a lower cost...

Controller : http://www.marinedepot.com/R2_Moonli...FIMLAC-vi.html

The LED's : http://www.marinedepot.com/R2_Soluti...LTFIML-vi.html

jyuen · 09/28/2009, 06:20 PM

HEY!!!! Cool finding! That totally looks like theirs!

DetroitCrow · 09/28/2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jyuen

HEY!!!! Cool finding! That totally looks like theirs!

I know right??

daveonbass · 09/28/2009, 06:43 PM

the leds are actually quite different in those two. The MD leds are like 5 little cluster of "bulbs" that are all pointed into the center led. looks like this....

//I\\ ---the slashes are two bulbs on each side...and the "I" is the center bulb wich is strait.

The Fishbowl leds are the flat square leds. [O][O][O] ---like this...

and both are in tubes. I can only speak for the FB leds, they are great...and the simple timer is all you need with them. anything more is kind of overkill since the moon LEDs don't actually do anything for our corals.

The use of the lunar cycle is a neat feature...But after a few months of it I decided to NOT use it and just pick a pleasing light level to view my tank at night with. The reason why is because my tank is in my bedroom and I acutally LIKE the blue light at night for seeing where I'm walking when I get up to let my dogs in and out (and to pee myself). So when the lunar cycle is at it's peak, the room is BLACK...and there is nothing to see anymore. So I finally just picked a nice level to see things at.

For a 48" tank...2 would be plenty. I think it actually says that each light has a good spread over 24".

If you want the lunar cycle you much keep it on all day...and no it's not going to waste much electricity, and no it's not even going to be "visible" when the lights are on durring the day. And the easy part is that with them on all day...you never need to worry about the timer situation. For my set up I just leave them on 24/7 anyways and I don't use the lunar cycle anymore.

If you WANT you can set the desired level and then put them on a timer...but that's if you just insist on having them off durring the day. But it will not cycle properly if the timer turns them off all day...they must be left on to cycle.

As far as being water tight...Mine are 100% sealed. I used to just have them held to the rim of the tank with tape...and so occasionally they would drop off and be swimming all day till I got back from work...and remember, they were ON. So I personally think they are great for the reason alone. But I'm sure others have had different experience.

But over all I like the blue color they give off and Would highly reccommend them.

good luck.

dave

DetroitCrow · 09/28/2009, 07:35 PM

Thanks for the info daveonbass..

jyuen · 09/28/2009, 07:58 PM

shoot.... Party Pooper... Just Kidding. Thanks for the great info. I guess I'm back to the waiting game with them.

DetroitCrow · 10/09/2009, 04:25 PM

I found that he also sells these on ebay and I ended up getting the whole setup with extra light for $86 shipped..

sg1838 · 10/21/2009, 01:52 PM

Any update on how pleased (or not) you are with the system?

corbett_n · 10/21/2009, 02:00 PM

Here is my 75g with R@ solutions moonlight:

JohnnyB in SD · 10/21/2009, 02:23 PM

I tried to order the moon computer late spring 2008, James finally contacted me in July saying soon soon soon..
His eventual response 09/26/08 was : "No its more like a logistical problem on our end. We are an the process of getting them made, but I don't have an ETA for you. One issue is we are doing a re-design to make the manufacturing easier as well as improving the design from a user standpoint. Many people have been asking and we are definitely working on it. I will keep you informed."
They have never had the computer in stock for the 18 months I've been looking for it. I made my own from some inexpensive parts, works ok but am looking to upgrade to a Reefkeeper anyway for improved overall system control, they can do lunar cycling.

09/28/2009, 06:43 PM	#37
daveonbass Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: texarkana, TX Posts: 1,364	the leds are actually quite different in those two. The MD leds are like 5 little cluster of "bulbs" that are all pointed into the center led. looks like this.... //I\\ ---the slashes are two bulbs on each side...and the "I" is the center bulb wich is strait. The Fishbowl leds are the flat square leds. [O][O][O] ---like this... and both are in tubes. I can only speak for the FB leds, they are great...and the simple timer is all you need with them. anything more is kind of overkill since the moon LEDs don't actually do anything for our corals. The use of the lunar cycle is a neat feature...But after a few months of it I decided to NOT use it and just pick a pleasing light level to view my tank at night with. The reason why is because my tank is in my bedroom and I acutally LIKE the blue light at night for seeing where I'm walking when I get up to let my dogs in and out (and to pee myself). So when the lunar cycle is at it's peak, the room is BLACK...and there is nothing to see anymore. So I finally just picked a nice level to see things at. For a 48" tank...2 would be plenty. I think it actually says that each light has a good spread over 24". If you want the lunar cycle you much keep it on all day...and no it's not going to waste much electricity, and no it's not even going to be "visible" when the lights are on durring the day. And the easy part is that with them on all day...you never need to worry about the timer situation. For my set up I just leave them on 24/7 anyways and I don't use the lunar cycle anymore. If you WANT you can set the desired level and then put them on a timer...but that's if you just insist on having them off durring the day. But it will not cycle properly if the timer turns them off all day...they must be left on to cycle. As far as being water tight...Mine are 100% sealed. I used to just have them held to the rim of the tank with tape...and so occasionally they would drop off and be swimming all day till I got back from work...and remember, they were ON. So I personally think they are great for the reason alone. But I'm sure others have had different experience. But over all I like the blue color they give off and Would highly reccommend them. good luck. dave __________________ dave Current Tank Info: 58g reef, 60 total gallons including rocks and sand, 36" 6 bulb ATI Powermodule, DAS skimmer, Bio pellets, 2 MP10 vortechs

09/23/2009, 09:06 PM	#26
jyuen Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saratoga Posts: 79	if you do that, how will the unit simulate the moon cycle? sorry... may be a dumb question.

09/24/2009, 06:48 AM	#28
cubsare1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: menasha Posts: 507	I leave mine on all the time and mine cycles thru the cycle

09/24/2009, 10:58 AM	#29
jyuen Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saratoga Posts: 79	so it'll also cycle thoughout the day?

09/24/2009, 11:23 AM	#31
jyuen Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saratoga Posts: 79	wow... hum gotta think on that... thx for the update!

09/28/2009, 06:14 PM	#34
DetroitCrow Moved On Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 206	These look like the same type of setup at a lower cost... Controller : http://www.marinedepot.com/R2_Moonli...FIMLAC-vi.html The LED's : http://www.marinedepot.com/R2_Soluti...LTFIML-vi.html

09/28/2009, 06:20 PM	#35
jyuen Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saratoga Posts: 79	HEY!!!! Cool finding! That totally looks like theirs!

09/28/2009, 07:35 PM	#38
DetroitCrow Moved On Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 206	Thanks for the info daveonbass..

09/28/2009, 07:58 PM	#39
jyuen Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saratoga Posts: 79	shoot.... Party Pooper... Just Kidding. Thanks for the great info. I guess I'm back to the waiting game with them.

10/09/2009, 04:25 PM	#40
DetroitCrow Moved On Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 206	I found that he also sells these on ebay and I ended up getting the whole setup with extra light for $86 shipped..

10/21/2009, 01:52 PM	#41
sg1838 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 415	Any update on how pleased (or not) you are with the system?

10/21/2009, 02:00 PM	#42
corbett_n Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SC Posts: 1,271	Here is my 75g with R@ solutions moonlight:

10/21/2009, 02:23 PM	#43
JohnnyB in SD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 261	I tried to order the moon computer late spring 2008, James finally contacted me in July saying soon soon soon.. His eventual response 09/26/08 was : "No its more like a logistical problem on our end. We are an the process of getting them made, but I don't have an ETA for you. One issue is we are doing a re-design to make the manufacturing easier as well as improving the design from a user standpoint. Many people have been asking and we are definitely working on it. I will keep you informed." They have never had the computer in stock for the 18 months I've been looking for it. I made my own from some inexpensive parts, works ok but am looking to upgrade to a Reefkeeper anyway for improved overall system control, they can do lunar cycling.