Is my 150 overlaoded?

Pinchy · 11/06/2009, 12:27 PM

Hello all! I have a 150 mixed reef with 350+ live rock a 50gal breeder made into a sump/refugium (bag filter). My tank is doing great and I have really had no problem keeping the water quality good. Currently in the tank I have:

1 Blue Hippo Tang 2 medium (6-8in) frogspawn
1 Chevron Tang 1 Large (9in) Toadstool leather
1 Yellow Tang 1 medium green tree leather
1 Sailfin Tang 3 colonies of Zoas (4-6 inch)
1 Maroon Clown 1 group of mushrooms (10in area)
1 Coral Beauty 1 5 inch Ricordia(I think)
1 Mandrin 1 red nobby sponge (6-7in)
1 Purple reef lobster
2 cleaner shrimp
50+ Hermits
1 sand star

All of the tangs are between 3-4 inches the Sailfin is pushing 4. Everybody
coexists very well with no problems or harrassment.

I would like to get some of your opinions on if I have too many fish in this tank of if I could add a few later on?

Thank you

am3gross · 11/06/2009, 12:35 PM

depends on your skimmer i think... i would say you are pushing the max though. 4 tangs i am sure are a poop factory!

Pinchy · 11/06/2009, 12:36 PM

I tried to seperate the Corals and the fish but when I posted this it came out all bunched up together.. The fish are on the left and corals are on the right.

jbird69 · 11/06/2009, 12:40 PM

If your skimmer is efficient you should be ok with bio. Id be more concerned about 350+# of LR in a 150. That does not leave much swim space for your tangs.

Pinchy · 11/06/2009, 12:49 PM

I have had a few people say that, but they seem to do fine... I have it stacked far enough away from the front glass that they have the full 6' of the tank to swim.. it is kind of hard to see here... There is also a lot of caves etc they weave through. I reall dont think that is an issue at all.

noahm · 11/06/2009, 12:57 PM

The real concern is going to be as the tangs get larger. It will just be physically limiting space-wise. At that point though, you can upgrade

. Seriously though, it is probably ok now as long as you have a good skimmer and good husbandry, but the tangs will get bigger. Maybe trade them down to 2 or so at that point for some corals or something.

Love the croc btw. That is one cool piece of LR

arredondojason · 11/06/2009, 01:03 PM

+1 on when the tangs grow.
i have a 240 gallon and only plan on putting in 1 or 2 tangs and that is it.

Pinchy · 11/06/2009, 01:14 PM

Ok, thanks everyone I really value your advice. I didn't plan on having this many Tangs but through a long series of events I ended up with them! I am planning on setting up a 300 gallon tank at my buisness within 6 months to a year, Soo, a few of them will be relocating! Lol thanks again!

Erniethisle · 11/06/2009, 01:26 PM

hope you dont feed more than 1 x a day?

Pinchy · 11/06/2009, 01:34 PM

Ummm, I do I feed usually 2 or 3... But like I have said I haven't had any problems with water quality... Sooo, is this bad?

noahm · 11/06/2009, 02:20 PM

It is not so much how often you feed, as much as whether you overfeed at any given time. Obviously more food=more poop, but there are people who overfeed every other day, and there are people who feed 5x/day without problems. If your params are fine, you are probably feeding fine 3x day.

11/06/2009, 12:27 PM	#1
Pinchy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 53	Is my 150 overlaoded? Hello all! I have a 150 mixed reef with 350+ live rock a 50gal breeder made into a sump/refugium (bag filter). My tank is doing great and I have really had no problem keeping the water quality good. Currently in the tank I have: 1 Blue Hippo Tang 2 medium (6-8in) frogspawn 1 Chevron Tang 1 Large (9in) Toadstool leather 1 Yellow Tang 1 medium green tree leather 1 Sailfin Tang 3 colonies of Zoas (4-6 inch) 1 Maroon Clown 1 group of mushrooms (10in area) 1 Coral Beauty 1 5 inch Ricordia(I think) 1 Mandrin 1 red nobby sponge (6-7in) 1 Purple reef lobster 2 cleaner shrimp 50+ Hermits 1 sand star All of the tangs are between 3-4 inches the Sailfin is pushing 4. Everybody coexists very well with no problems or harrassment. I would like to get some of your opinions on if I have too many fish in this tank of if I could add a few later on? Thank you Last edited by Pinchy; 11/06/2009 at 12:29 PM. Reason: added info

11/06/2009, 12:40 PM	#4
jbird69 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The beautiful State of Jefferson Posts: 2,751	If your skimmer is efficient you should be ok with bio. Id be more concerned about 350+# of LR in a 150. That does not leave much swim space for your tangs. __________________ Broke Back Mountain is not a movie, its the pile of dead ninjas in Chuck Norris' back yard

11/06/2009, 12:35 PM	#2
am3gross Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: va Posts: 1,243	depends on your skimmer i think... i would say you are pushing the max though. 4 tangs i am sure are a poop factory!

11/06/2009, 12:36 PM	#3
Pinchy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 53	I tried to seperate the Corals and the fish but when I posted this it came out all bunched up together.. The fish are on the left and corals are on the right.

11/06/2009, 12:49 PM	#5
Pinchy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 53	I have had a few people say that, but they seem to do fine... I have it stacked far enough away from the front glass that they have the full 6' of the tank to swim.. it is kind of hard to see here... There is also a lot of caves etc they weave through. I reall dont think that is an issue at all.

11/06/2009, 12:57 PM	#6
noahm Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,736	The real concern is going to be as the tangs get larger. It will just be physically limiting space-wise. At that point though, you can upgrade . Seriously though, it is probably ok now as long as you have a good skimmer and good husbandry, but the tangs will get bigger. Maybe trade them down to 2 or so at that point for some corals or something. Love the croc btw. That is one cool piece of LR

11/06/2009, 01:03 PM	#7
arredondojason Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 988	+1 on when the tangs grow. i have a 240 gallon and only plan on putting in 1 or 2 tangs and that is it.

11/06/2009, 01:14 PM	#8
Pinchy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 53	Ok, thanks everyone I really value your advice. I didn't plan on having this many Tangs but through a long series of events I ended up with them! I am planning on setting up a 300 gallon tank at my buisness within 6 months to a year, Soo, a few of them will be relocating! Lol thanks again!

11/06/2009, 01:26 PM	#9
Erniethisle Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 57	hope you dont feed more than 1 x a day?

11/06/2009, 01:34 PM	#10
Pinchy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 53	Ummm, I do I feed usually 2 or 3... But like I have said I haven't had any problems with water quality... Sooo, is this bad?

11/06/2009, 02:20 PM	#11
noahm Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,736	It is not so much how often you feed, as much as whether you overfeed at any given time. Obviously more food=more poop, but there are people who overfeed every other day, and there are people who feed 5x/day without problems. If your params are fine, you are probably feeding fine 3x day.