Rock

AGM1 · 11/14/2009, 01:22 PM

Hi,

I have a few questions about Live Rock. I have heard the term "seeding", and was wondering if its possible to use 50 percent lace rock (from an old african cichlid tank), and 50 percent purchased live rock. Would the live rock seed the lace rock? Would the lace rock be considered "base rock" or does it need to be rock composed of calcium carbonate to maintain ph? Sort of a new question but if I can cut down costs im all in for it considering the price of live rock.

thank you

Butterz · 11/14/2009, 01:27 PM

No, you can't just use any rock and expect it to work as well. Live rock is pourus and water literally goes through the rock...like a sponge. That's how you get your complete nitrogen process going with live rock.

bertoni · 11/14/2009, 07:33 PM

I don't know how effective lace rock will be, for the reason stated, but the live rock will seed it with some animals and microbes. I think some people have been happy with lace rock, but you might want to check around.

terri_ann · 11/15/2009, 03:17 AM

I had lace rock and it did not work well at all. I replaced mine...good luck :-)

Mentat · 11/15/2009, 10:36 AM

"Base Rock" comes from dry dead reefs or previous life systems and is carbonate based. Sources are locally from hobbyists that let tank dry out before selling stuff. Can also get from commercial sources like CaribSea or Marco Rocks, among others. When added to a tank, live bacteria will colonize the rock providing all the nitrogen reducing benefits of live rock. Depending upon aquarist desire, you can add some live rock to populate with other organisms or not.

arredondojason · 11/15/2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by terri_ann

I had lace rock and it did not work well at all. I replaced mine...good luck :-)

same thing for me. look into marcorocks.com the key largo is awsome stuff and about the same price as the lace rock you are looking at just put it in your tank and and some small peices of LR to seed it and it will turn into live rock during your tank cycle.

Aquarist007 · 11/15/2009, 11:33 AM

I would use the base rock as suggested by some above. I would not go more than 40 per cent base rock to 60 per cent live rock. You will also need to allow a longer time for cycling then 3-6 weeks before increasing the bioload too rapidly---at least for the first three months
eg as a suggestion add one small fish every two weeks instead of one week

Pylon · 11/15/2009, 02:30 PM

What is a good prive for live rock at a LFS?
Mine is selling ti for 6 dollars a pound. Is that to much?

Aquarist007 · 11/15/2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pylon

What is a good prive for live rock at a LFS?
Mine is selling ti for 6 dollars a pound. Is that to much?

depends for what kind----Figi--yes that is about the going price.

Indo rock in our area can be as high as 9 dollars a pound

Have you checked your local reef club, or www.kijiji.com for your area. Many times you can get quality reef rock, cycled and covered with corraline for 4 dollars a pound.

Pylon · 11/15/2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by capn_hylinur

depends for what kind----Figi--yes that is about the going price.

Indo rock in our area can be as high as 9 dollars a pound

Have you checked your local reef club, or www.kijiji.com for your area. Many times you can get quality reef rock, cycled and covered with corraline for 4 dollars a pound.

I don't have a local reef club. I live in the middle of no where :P I think the SW West Va is closest, but they are a good 4 hours away. I"ll check out your link and see what happens!
I was thinking about getting 20 pouds of dry rock for about 60 shipped and about 4 of live from my LFS.

Pylon · 11/15/2009, 07:33 PM

Nothing close to me on that site. I've checked everywhere. A major city close to me is Boone, NC. if anyone knows of a good site for that area.

11/14/2009, 01:22 PM	#1
AGM1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 141	Rock Hi, I have a few questions about Live Rock. I have heard the term "seeding", and was wondering if its possible to use 50 percent lace rock (from an old african cichlid tank), and 50 percent purchased live rock. Would the live rock seed the lace rock? Would the lace rock be considered "base rock" or does it need to be rock composed of calcium carbonate to maintain ph? Sort of a new question but if I can cut down costs im all in for it considering the price of live rock. thank you

11/14/2009, 07:33 PM	#3
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I don't know how effective lace rock will be, for the reason stated, but the live rock will seed it with some animals and microbes. I think some people have been happy with lace rock, but you might want to check around. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/15/2009, 03:17 AM	#4
terri_ann Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Marshalltown, IA Posts: 841	I had lace rock and it did not work well at all. I replaced mine...good luck :-) __________________ Happy Reefing!! :) Current Tank Info: 180g mixed 40B Anemone 5' raceway frag tank

11/15/2009, 11:33 AM	#7
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	I would use the base rock as suggested by some above. I would not go more than 40 per cent base rock to 60 per cent live rock. You will also need to allow a longer time for cycling then 3-6 weeks before increasing the bioload too rapidly---at least for the first three months eg as a suggestion add one small fish every two weeks instead of one week __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

11/14/2009, 01:27 PM	#2
Butterz Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 174	No, you can't just use any rock and expect it to work as well. Live rock is pourus and water literally goes through the rock...like a sponge. That's how you get your complete nitrogen process going with live rock.

11/15/2009, 10:36 AM	#5
Mentat Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA USA Posts: 1,173	"Base Rock" comes from dry dead reefs or previous life systems and is carbonate based. Sources are locally from hobbyists that let tank dry out before selling stuff. Can also get from commercial sources like CaribSea or Marco Rocks, among others. When added to a tank, live bacteria will colonize the rock providing all the nitrogen reducing benefits of live rock. Depending upon aquarist desire, you can add some live rock to populate with other organisms or not.

11/15/2009, 02:30 PM	#8
Pylon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Jefferson, NC Posts: 493	What is a good prive for live rock at a LFS? Mine is selling ti for 6 dollars a pound. Is that to much?

11/15/2009, 07:33 PM	#11
Pylon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Jefferson, NC Posts: 493	Nothing close to me on that site. I've checked everywhere. A major city close to me is Boone, NC. if anyone knows of a good site for that area.