WATER STORAGE TANK SITES please help - Page 2

MrineLfRlz · 11/19/2009, 01:51 AM

whats even funnier is that something told me to move it out before i took some pics but i thought
who will notice

Flipper62 · 11/19/2009, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrineLfRlz

whats even funnier is that something told me to move it out before i took some pics but i thought
who will notice

SORRY....I'm a stickler....for detail......

My wife says I'm a perfectionist.......I disagree, Its just that everything has to be right & everything has its place, and it needs to be put back there when done using it. And if your not going to do it correctly...Dont do it at all.

BUT...I'm not a perfectionist.....

MrineLfRlz · 11/19/2009, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flipper62

SORRY....I'm a stickler....for detail......

My wife says I'm a perfectionist.......I disagree, Its just that everything has to be right & everything has its place, and it needs to be put back there when done using it. And if your not going to do it correctly...Dont do it at all.

BUT...I'm not a perfectionist.....

np @ all
it made me laugh!

Flipper62 · 11/19/2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrineLfRlz

np @ all
it made me laugh!

LOL......LOL....

You could have done PhotoShop.....LOL......Like This.......SORRY, I couldn't help myself....

sowellj · 11/19/2009, 08:30 AM

I am in the process of setting up my mixing/change station for a 180 and was just going to go with the standard brute set up (~$30 container). Since both containers are polyethylene ... why are folks going w/the water storage tanks as they are quite a bit more?

MrineLfRlz · 11/19/2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sowellj

I am in the process of setting up my mixing/change station for a 180 and was just going to go with the standard brute set up (~$30 container). Since both containers are polyethylene ... why are folks going w/the water storage tanks as they are quite a bit more?

i was thinking about doing the brutes but went this rout because one of my other trash cans 35 gal was really starting to slit badly and i had to trash it " trashed a trash can" lol

anyways
im just scared to get another trash can even a brute
ive been keeping a close eye on the one i have left now i wont fill it as high as i have before either

i know these are more expensive but they are made very well
solid and thick plastic and already have a bulkhead 1" in the bottom
also the gallon reading on the side is a nice touch!

MrineLfRlz · 11/19/2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipper62

LOL......LOL....

You could have done PhotoShop.....LOL......Like This.......SORRY, I couldn't help myself....

go back and fix my other pics

Merkurfan · 11/19/2009, 01:36 PM

I got both of my RO/Mixing tanks for free from the water softener guy. The large plastic tanks you dump the salt in. Mine where new, but used ones will work just fine to. It's food grade plastic so you just need to clean um out

jaypeeroe · 11/24/2009, 03:16 AM

probably the dumbest question posted ever.... but....

what is the gray powered box between the trash can and the tank. does that send water back to your tank?

MrineLfRlz · 11/24/2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jaypeeroe

probably the dumbest question posted ever.... but....

what is the gray powered box between the trash can and the tank. does that send water back to your tank?

not a dumb question @ all
it was my old return pump from my sump a MAG DRIVE 18 " 1800 gph" pump
yep it mixes the salt and water and it also sends water from the salt water container to the sump

MrineLfRlz · 11/24/2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkurfan

I got both of my RO/Mixing tanks for free from the water softener guy. The large plastic tanks you dump the salt in. Mine where new, but used ones will work just fine to. It's food grade plastic so you just need to clean um out

nice score
how many gallons each?

sirjohn · 11/24/2009, 10:30 AM

I've read from some reefers here that Brute trash cans may leak phosphates or something else into the water when the trash cans are used for water storage. I have no confirmation of this, and actually used Brutes for years. Perhaps I experienced more algae outbreaks as a result, but it's hard to tell.

I bought two 65 gallon poly tanks from U.S. plastics and I'm very happy with them. If you buy some poly tanks, just make sure they rated for potable water storage. That SHOULD ensure that the tanks do not leak anything into the water.

Here is a picture of mine:

Randy Holmes-Farley · 11/24/2009, 10:39 AM

I've read from some reefers here that Brute trash cans may leak phosphates or something else into the water when the trash cans are used for water storage. I have no confirmation of this, and actually used Brutes for years. Perhaps I experienced more algae outbreaks as a result, but it's hard to tell.

There will not be enough phosphate released from a clean Brute can to be any concern over time, even if there is a tiny bit at the start (and I'm skeptical of that even). Inorganic phosphate is just not something added in large amounts to polyethylene plastic, and even if it were, it will not readily diffuse through the plastic.

MrineLfRlz · 11/24/2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sirjohn

I've read from some reefers here that Brute trash cans may leak phosphates or something else into the water when the trash cans are used for water storage. I have no confirmation of this, and actually used Brutes for years. Perhaps I experienced more algae outbreaks as a result, but it's hard to tell.

I bought two 65 gallon poly tanks from U.S. plastics and I'm very happy with them. If you buy some poly tanks, just make sure they rated for potable water storage. That SHOULD ensure that the tanks do not leak anything into the water.

Here is a picture of mine:

i like the setup what pump do you have to transfer the water?

sirjohn · 11/26/2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MrineLfRlz

i like the setup what pump do you have to transfer the water?

Thanks. I actually use two pumps. I have the two tanks (left salt, right fresh) plumbed through the wall to my tank to a Litermeter3 and 2 remote pump modules. The Litermeter3 provides the freshwater top-off and exchanges about 3 gallons of salt water daily. You can't see the waste line from that shot, but it goes through the exterior wall to the outside, where it dumps the water. I can do up to 50 gallon water changes daily if I wanted to.

The plumbing on the bottom is connected to a GenX - PCX-55HP pump and is used for many things, including to transfer RO/DI water from the right tank to the left tank and for mixing the saltwater in the left tank. The pump is amazing and really quiet; I would not hesitate to use it as a main pump. I have other tanks in the house that are unfortunately not plumbed to these two tanks, so I also connect a long 1" hose to the Genx pump to do water changes for these tanks.

MrineLfRlz · 11/26/2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sirjohn

Thanks. I actually use two pumps. I have the two tanks (left salt, right fresh) plumbed through the wall to my tank to a Litermeter3 and 2 remote pump modules. The Litermeter3 provides the freshwater top-off and exchanges about 3 gallons of salt water daily. You can't see the waste line from that shot, but it goes through the exterior wall to the outside, where it dumps the water. I can do up to 50 gallon water changes daily if I wanted to.

The plumbing on the bottom is connected to a GenX - PCX-55HP pump and is used for many things, including to transfer RO/DI water from the right tank to the left tank and for mixing the saltwater in the left tank. The pump is amazing and really quiet; I would not hesitate to use it as a main pump. I have other tanks in the house that are unfortunately not plumbed to these two tanks, so I also connect a long 1" hose to the Genx pump to do water changes for these tanks.

very nice can i see some more pics of how you have it ran?

sirjohn · 11/26/2009, 12:59 PM

Sure. Here is an early picture of the supply and waste lines plumbed through the wall to behind the tank:

Sump area with Litermeter3 on the left:

Plumbing and the two remote pump modules inside of the cabinet:

If you look closely here at the back of the sump, you can see the three white .25" tubes, one for fresh, one for salt and one for waste:

Tank is still cycling, but here's a full tank shot from a couple of weeks ago:

Merkurfan · 11/26/2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrineLfRlz

nice score
how many gallons each?

roughly 35 but they come in larger and smaller sizes depending on the softener it comes from.

MrineLfRlz · 11/27/2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sirjohn

Sure. Here is an early picture of the supply and waste lines plumbed through the wall to behind the tank:

Sump area with Litermeter3 on the left:

Plumbing and the two remote pump modules inside of the cabinet:

If you look closely here at the back of the sump, you can see the three white .25" tubes, one for fresh, one for salt and one for waste:

Tank is still cycling, but here's a full tank shot from a couple of weeks ago:

thanks alot!
very nice and clean setup i love how you setup your control center
im really glad i asked

but do you have any air circulation on your icecap balast?

StrategicReef · 01/02/2010, 03:53 PM

If you were to place one of these tanks outside in the yard.. how would you cover it up to protect from the sunlight? I think algae would grow if it is not in a dark enough.

11/19/2009, 01:51 AM	#26
MrineLfRlz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: eldon M.O. Posts: 1,167	whats even funnier is that something told me to move it out before i took some pics but i thought who will notice __________________ Jim its not a obsession its a way of life!--75g DT/125g sump/40g growout/30g frag/ATI sun power x8/t5 on DT/X2 D120 leds 40g/Sun blaze x4/t5 30g Current Tank Info: BubbleMagus(calc.,alk/Clearwater CW-300 Scrubber//56wAQUA UV/Reef Oct.SRO6000SSS Protein sk./1/10HP Chiller/GENESIS AWC

11/24/2009, 10:30 AM	#37
sirjohn Feeding Frenzied Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: miami, fl Posts: 516	I've read from some reefers here that Brute trash cans may leak phosphates or something else into the water when the trash cans are used for water storage. I have no confirmation of this, and actually used Brutes for years. Perhaps I experienced more algae outbreaks as a result, but it's hard to tell. I bought two 65 gallon poly tanks from U.S. plastics and I'm very happy with them. If you buy some poly tanks, just make sure they rated for potable water storage. That SHOULD ensure that the tanks do not leak anything into the water. Here is a picture of mine: __________________ "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." -- Ronald Reagan Current Tank Info: Elos 160XL (200 gal) -- Mixed Reef

11/24/2009, 10:39 AM	#38
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 86,233	I've read from some reefers here that Brute trash cans may leak phosphates or something else into the water when the trash cans are used for water storage. I have no confirmation of this, and actually used Brutes for years. Perhaps I experienced more algae outbreaks as a result, but it's hard to tell. There will not be enough phosphate released from a clean Brute can to be any concern over time, even if there is a tiny bit at the start (and I'm skeptical of that even). Inorganic phosphate is just not something added in large amounts to polyethylene plastic, and even if it were, it will not readily diffuse through the plastic. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

11/26/2009, 12:59 PM	#42
sirjohn Feeding Frenzied Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: miami, fl Posts: 516	Sure. Here is an early picture of the supply and waste lines plumbed through the wall to behind the tank: Sump area with Litermeter3 on the left: Plumbing and the two remote pump modules inside of the cabinet: If you look closely here at the back of the sump, you can see the three white .25" tubes, one for fresh, one for salt and one for waste: Tank is still cycling, but here's a full tank shot from a couple of weeks ago: __________________ "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." -- Ronald Reagan Current Tank Info: Elos 160XL (200 gal) -- Mixed Reef

11/19/2009, 08:30 AM	#30
sowellj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: greenwood, sc Posts: 712	I am in the process of setting up my mixing/change station for a 180 and was just going to go with the standard brute set up (~$30 container). Since both containers are polyethylene ... why are folks going w/the water storage tanks as they are quite a bit more?

11/19/2009, 01:36 PM	#33
Merkurfan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 54	I got both of my RO/Mixing tanks for free from the water softener guy. The large plastic tanks you dump the salt in. Mine where new, but used ones will work just fine to. It's food grade plastic so you just need to clean um out

11/24/2009, 03:16 AM	#34
jaypeeroe Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 71	probably the dumbest question posted ever.... but.... what is the gray powered box between the trash can and the tank. does that send water back to your tank?

01/02/2010, 03:53 PM	#45
StrategicReef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Livermore CA Posts: 1,659	If you were to place one of these tanks outside in the yard.. how would you cover it up to protect from the sunlight? I think algae would grow if it is not in a dark enough.