clown fisha and anemone

[ReefCrazy101]

how long does it take for a clown fish start going in a anemone ive had them both the clown fish and the anemone for a day now

[thebkramer]

My pair took 2 days to find the anemone

[Shane Hoffman]

If its a tank bread clown it may never go in the anemone. If you want a gauranteed sybiotic relationship you will need to get a wild caught clown. Ive never seen a maroon clown not host.

[Shane Hoffman]

Welcome to Reef central!!! Also, it isnt very helpful to post the same post in several different forums. If you post in new to the hobby or reef discussions you should get a response fairly quickly. You should always give it a bit of time for people to respond. If you go many hours without a response maybe then try another forum. No biggy just a heads up.

[IslandCrow]

Actually, there's no evidence that tank bred clownfish are any less likely to take to an anemone. Now, the more important question is what type of clownfish do you have, and what type of anemone? Each anemone is only a natural host to certain clownfish (assuming it's a natural host to any clownfish at all). That's not to say that a clownfish won't choose an anemone that's not it's host, nor is it to say that a clownfish (captive bred or wild caught) will necessarily accept its natural host. You definitely have a better chance if you match the anemone and clownfish species correctly, though.

[ReefCrazy101]

i have a pair of perks sea bay as for a anemone

[Chiefsurfer]

i think a sabae nem will play host to a clown. Just from reeding the clown/nem subforum, it can take anywhere from a few hours to weeks, even months. They will find it eventually(unless they are currently hosting something else, which they can do)

[ReefCrazy101]

not yet i do have a little anchor coral in there

[IslandCrow]

Well, you jumped right into the fire with a Sebae, didn't you. In case you didn't know, they tend to be some of the more difficult anemones to keep. The good news is, I believe Sebae anemones are in fact natural hosts to percula clownfish. Most of my books (including my clownfish book) are in boxes right now, though, so can anyone back me up on that?

[ReefCrazy101]

ok thanks man hope it works out

[Chiefsurfer]

well, looking it up, seems as if islandcrow and I are both wrong. Looking at 4 different sites with clownfish/anemone compatability charts, the perc will not host a sebae.

Clownfish that host sebae are skunks, tomatoes, and maroons.

[ReefCrazy101]

ok thanks cheif ill give the clownfish by the end of the week to go in and if not ill just get another anemone

[elegance coral]

Originally Posted by ReefCrazy101

ok thanks cheif ill give the clownfish by the end of the week to go in and if not ill just get another anemone

Patience my friend, patience. Perculas do use crispa (one of the anemones known as "sebae") as a host in the wild. The other natural hosts for percula are among the most difficult animals we keep in the hobby. You would be much better off sticking with the anemone you have and trying to keep it healthy. The perc's will find it. just give them time. While I believe the clown will move into the anemone within a week, that really isn't enough time to say that it won't.

[IslandCrow]

You know what. . .H. crispa is probably what I was thinking of. . .see, Chiefsurfer, we were'nt wrong afterall.

By the way, here's some info on anemones I found in my links. The information seems to be pretty consistent with my own experiences and what I've found in other articles and books: http://fins.actwin.com/species/anemone.html

And this article has information on the natural host anemones for different species of clownfish: http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/ane...onematches.htm

And just as a parting point. Although the interaction between a clownfish and and anemone is definitely intriguing, anemones are certainly not a requirement for a captive clownfish, so definitely only get an anemone because you want the anemone and not because you think the clownfish needs it. Either way, hopefully everything works out for you. Best of luck.

[Mike in AZ]

I had an Ocellaris pair for 6 months (tank bred) that never went near my RBTA. The male died and the female begin slowly going near the anemone for a few weeks. The day I added another, smaller Ocellaris to the tank she jumped into the anemone that night when the lights went out and within a few days the male joined her. Recently it split and now they can't decide which one they like more, so they spend equaly time in each one.

Like most posters have said, it just takes time. Sometimes days, sometimes months, and ocasionally never. They will host in other things like Frogspawn or Xenia as well sometimes. At one point mine were living in a large patch of bryopsis just to spite me.

[Lifefreak0007]

time, time, time, with this hobby all most any thing can happen. I am sure we have all seen the normal but its the not so normal that make the hobby great give it time and see what happens. And read, research, and read some more. Good luck

[garzaci]

Just wait. It might take some time. Just focus on keepin the fish and nem healthy and nature will take its course.

[Chris27]

I have two percs and a cinnamon clown - the cinnamon is hosting an RBTA and one of the two percs is in a seabae.

As for how long it took to establish the relationship, the cinnamon first hosted the seabae, but after being in the tank with it for almost 6 months. When I added the RBTA and two percs later down the road, the cinnamon abandoned the seabae and went to the RBTA almost immediately. As for the percs, the one that is now hosting the seabae, took approximately 4 months before it moved in.

Nature will eventually run it's course, clowns are funny little fish, they may never find a nem, or they may bed anything they can wiggle their little bodies into. I've seen them in brain corals, hammer/frogspawn corals and different leathers. The trick is to keep nice clean water and a healthy dose of light from quality bulbs.

[ReefCrazy101]

Thanks you guys for your help my anemone is doing good hes bigger today and i feed him today and he ate it i hope well he closed all over it so im pretty sure he ate it

[ReefCrazy101]

ok so now my anemone wont put his foot down

[Chiefsurfer]

how old is the tank? Anemones are very sensitive to "newer" tanks. Most don't reccomend adding nems until at least 6 months after the cycle is done. Also, have heard the sebae are tougher than some other nems, and have an even tougher time. Did the nem attach his foot initially, and now it broke free and won't re-plant? What kind of flow is there in your tank, and where is it aimed, in regards to where you want him?

[ReefCrazy101]

well its not 6 months old maybe 4 months and well it looks like a attached but he isnt and theres flow in the tank but hes got a liitle flow to him not all of it

[Chiefsurfer]

What's happening to him if he's not attached? Is he floating around the tank? If it looks like he's attached, and he's not beind blown around, I would think he is attached. Is he sticky?

[Toddrtrex]

Originally Posted by ReefCrazy101

ok so now my anemone wont put his foot down

For the same reason I mentioned in your other thread. White/bleached Sebaes have an awful track record.

Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

I took a look at your video, and hate to say it but that Sebae (( H. crispa )) is in pretty poor condition. Besides being bleached (( white )), its mouth is slightly open, and lastly its tentacles are too short -- meaning that it is most likely been consuming itself for energy.

What are your water parameters (( with numbers )) and what lights do you have?

Lastly, a healthy Crispa will out grow that tank is short order.

[ReefCrazy101]

my big clown is in the anemone!!! but my little was is about to die for some reason



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