reef crystals is a scam!! - Page 4

Rybren · 02/08/2010, 04:30 PM

$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale.

FWIW, I generally use just under 3 cups to mix up a 5 gal pail to 35ppt.

The thing I find odd, is that the instructions tell you to mix 1/2 cup per gallon with no indication of what the salinity will be. But they also state how much wieght will produce 1.021. Seems to me that since most people use a volume measurement, that they should tell you what salinity that volume will produce.

mano84 · 02/08/2010, 05:33 PM

I think that the scary part in this thread is that you all refer to the salt buckets as a 160 gallon bucket or a 200 gallon box. I've never heard or seen anyone (before reading this thread) referring it to anything other than a 25 kilogram bucket or whatever the amount is.

Don't get me wrong I think that it's great if it says on the bucket about how much saltwater it will produce so that I'll get a general idea of the amount but when I buy it I still buy 25 kilograms of salt (or ~55 pounds if you prefer that).

eyebedam · 02/08/2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mano84

I think that the scary part in this thread is that you all refer to the salt buckets as a 160 gallon bucket or a 200 gallon box. I've never heard or seen anyone (before reading this thread) referring it to anything other than a 25 kilogram bucket or whatever the amount is.

Don't get me wrong I think that it's great if it says on the bucket about how much saltwater it will produce so that I'll get a general idea of the amount but when I buy it I still buy 25 kilograms of salt (or ~55 pounds if you prefer that).

Maybe that's because your in Sweden & most of these post are from here in the US

jhawkor · 02/08/2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SDguy

I would SO quadruple check everything before starting a thread like this.

Agreed. Calling Reef Crystals a scam is quite a claim.

Metal Man 1221 · 02/08/2010, 06:23 PM

im sorry i didnt read every ones comments so im sorry if this has been said
but the point here that needs to be understood is that on every salt mix container it gives an apropriate SG, i.e. i use oceanic, because it has higher Mg and Ca but on the back it says (NOTE:recommended specific gravity is 1.021-1.024 for marine fish....) and its basicly the same on every other container, the reason "Reef Cryistals" is called such, is because of the higher amount of supplements, reef crystals has a higher Alk and Ca levels than most salt mixes its for tanks with stony corals that take up a lot of the above supplements.

so im sorry to say but no, reef crystals is not ripping you off, and with all do respect its your fault for not reading the directions well enough

speedo2wet · 02/08/2010, 06:31 PM

I agree... Listen, the question is: can you make 160 gallons at the sg 1.021 or so that is stated on the label???

eric@tampa · 02/08/2010, 06:50 PM

User error I think,didn't do his homework.jmo

evsalty · 02/08/2010, 06:54 PM

I made 25g's last week with RC at 35ppt @78* and I know I did not use 1/4 of the bucket. I do agree that you have to use a little bit more then 1/2 cup per gallon to get there but to loose 60g's I just don't buy that.

tarpon12 · 02/08/2010, 08:45 PM

Im not your friend, buddy! Im not your buddy, guy! Im not your guy, friend!

burtonpj48 · 02/08/2010, 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=Rybren;16548452]$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale.

The cheapest i have seen reef crystal is 55 dollars canadian, in our city another shop is is 60, and most i have seen it is 75. I just dont understand why there is such a big difference in price. What im really concerned about, if using reef crystal, how much do u have to spend on dosing elements.

graveyardworm · 02/08/2010, 09:05 PM

Metal Man 1221 · 02/08/2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by graveyardworm

LMAO!!

[QUOTE=burtonpj48;16550224]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybren

$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale.

The cheapest i have seen reef crystal is 55 dollars canadian, in our city another shop is is 60, and most i have seen it is 75. I just dont understand why there is such a big difference in price. What im really concerned about, if using reef crystal, how much do u have to spend on dosing elements.

actually with reef crystals i wouldnt dose any thing, the reason its more pricey than other salts is because its more aboundant with trace elements and vital supplents that other salt mixes

Nanook · 02/08/2010, 10:00 PM

That's a wrap!!

02/08/2010, 04:30 PM	#76
Rybren Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,642	$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale. FWIW, I generally use just under 3 cups to mix up a 5 gal pail to 35ppt. The thing I find odd, is that the instructions tell you to mix 1/2 cup per gallon with no indication of what the salinity will be. But they also state how much wieght will produce 1.021. Seems to me that since most people use a volume measurement, that they should tell you what salinity that volume will produce. __________________ 120G Mixed Reef, 28G AIO zoa/pipefish tank

02/08/2010, 06:23 PM	#80
Metal Man 1221 FMMAS Executive Director Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fargo ND Posts: 1,504	im sorry i didnt read every ones comments so im sorry if this has been said but the point here that needs to be understood is that on every salt mix container it gives an apropriate SG, i.e. i use oceanic, because it has higher Mg and Ca but on the back it says (NOTE:recommended specific gravity is 1.021-1.024 for marine fish....) and its basicly the same on every other container, the reason "Reef Cryistals" is called such, is because of the higher amount of supplements, reef crystals has a higher Alk and Ca levels than most salt mixes its for tanks with stony corals that take up a lot of the above supplements. so im sorry to say but no, reef crystals is not ripping you off, and with all do respect its your fault for not reading the directions well enough __________________ "My advise is, always look at their aquarium before you take their advise. Because alot of people give advise and they havnt got a clue" ~David Saxby~ "Only after the last tree's cut and the last river poisoned only after the last fish is caught will you find that money cannot be eaten" ~Lamb of God~ Current Tank Info: 125g DT, 45g sump ---- 57g Illuminata, custom sump

02/08/2010, 09:05 PM	#86
graveyardworm Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nottingham, NH Posts: 7,251	__________________ -David- President - New Hampshire Reef Club There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave Current Tank Info: 100 gal lagoon/seagrass, 100 gal sump, Lifereef 72" skimmer, 180 inwall, 125 inwall seagrass/lagoon in progress

02/08/2010, 10:00 PM	#88
Nanook Ancient Eskimo Legend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 41,852 Blog Entries: 11	That's a wrap!! __________________ The wind blew, the chit flew, and then they came two by two. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Tank Info: 375g Tanganyikan Tank & 470g mixed reef

02/08/2010, 05:33 PM	#77
mano84 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 82	I think that the scary part in this thread is that you all refer to the salt buckets as a 160 gallon bucket or a 200 gallon box. I've never heard or seen anyone (before reading this thread) referring it to anything other than a 25 kilogram bucket or whatever the amount is. Don't get me wrong I think that it's great if it says on the bucket about how much saltwater it will produce so that I'll get a general idea of the amount but when I buy it I still buy 25 kilograms of salt (or ~55 pounds if you prefer that).

02/08/2010, 06:31 PM	#81
speedo2wet Sharks!!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Apopka, Florida Posts: 478	I agree... Listen, the question is: can you make 160 gallons at the sg 1.021 or so that is stated on the label???

02/08/2010, 06:50 PM	#82
eric@tampa Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tampa,Fla Posts: 322	User error I think,didn't do his homework.jmo

02/08/2010, 06:54 PM	#83
evsalty hmmmmmm Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NW Mesa, AZ Posts: 3,531	I made 25g's last week with RC at 35ppt @78* and I know I did not use 1/4 of the bucket. I do agree that you have to use a little bit more then 1/2 cup per gallon to get there but to loose 60g's I just don't buy that.

02/08/2010, 08:45 PM	#84
tarpon12 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kingsbay GA Posts: 112	Im not your friend, buddy! Im not your buddy, guy! Im not your guy, friend!

02/08/2010, 08:58 PM	#85
burtonpj48 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 79	[QUOTE=Rybren;16548452]$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale. The cheapest i have seen reef crystal is 55 dollars canadian, in our city another shop is is 60, and most i have seen it is 75. I just dont understand why there is such a big difference in price. What im really concerned about, if using reef crystal, how much do u have to spend on dosing elements.