Vortech MP40 or Tunze 6105 Pump + 7091 Single Controller

Montreal Ray · 02/08/2010, 06:32 PM

I know Vortech is all the rage and it's sexy with it's wet/dry application. However, what is a better and more reliable set-up?

I've been reading allot about the Vortechs being sent in for repairs, while you never hear that about the Tunze Turbelle.

I've see a lot of Vortech vids and they look sweet!

Both Vortech and Tunze 7091 have many wave choices and both use a single pump.

Vortech MP40

$499 (i'm in Canada)
3200 GPH
Sexy wet/dry

Tunze 6105 Pump + 7091 Single Controller

$430
3434 GPH
Takes up more room

Lets here your opinions please

Tajjo · 02/08/2010, 07:46 PM

I went with the tunze because of the same reasons. I thought if they sell the wet side it's obviously meant to break down here and there.

herozero · 02/08/2010, 07:52 PM

I would not say the wet/dry is sexy, it is a noticable difference in the tank. However, they are not silent. And while they cannot be directed like a tunze, they have a very broad flow. There are MANY threads you can search thru on these forums discussing the ups and downs.

Montreal Ray · 02/08/2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tajjo

I went with the tunze because of the same reasons. I thought if they sell the wet side it's obviously meant to break down here and there.

How do you like it, nice motion?

Quote:

Originally Posted by herozero

I would not say the wet/dry is sexy, it is a noticable difference in the tank. However, they are not silent. And while they cannot be directed like a tunze, they have a very broad flow. There are MANY threads you can search thru on these forums discussing the ups and downs.

Yeah, there are many Vortech threads not many Tunze + controller (or I just cant find em)

Tajjo · 02/08/2010, 08:02 PM

I love my tunze I'm getting another

jhc · 02/08/2010, 08:28 PM

Oceanic Corals in BC has them on sale for $440CAD. I've dealt with Oceanic corals for livestock and they are a good dependable store. nice frags.

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...&productId=326

Montreal Ray · 02/08/2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhc

Oceanic Corals in BC has them on sale for $440CAD. I've dealt with Oceanic corals for livestock and they are a good dependable store. nice frags.

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...&productId=326

Thanks for the link man!

jhc · 02/08/2010, 09:26 PM

I would email oceanic corals first to see if the sale is still on.

They are in a mad scramble to open up a retail store so they haven't been updating their site as much.

You can go on canreef as well since they have a forum there.

shandy_say · 02/09/2010, 12:09 AM

Vortech all the way! I use just one in my 70gal and all my sps are absolutely loving it!

drparker · 02/09/2010, 09:46 AM

I've got both Tunze 6055s with a 7095 controller and MP40w Gen 2 pumps. Bottom line they're both great pumps and both companies have great customer service.

What do you want pumps with a more concentrated flow pattern that is aim able or pumps with a broad gentler flow and great undertow?

If I went with just one it would be MP40 for the undertow and broad flow.

No the spare wet side is not a sign of failure. It allows you to swap a wet side for cleaning and maintenance while still having a functional pump at fraction of the price of owning a spare pump.

200mfromocean · 02/10/2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drparker

I've got both Tunze 6055s with a 7095 controller and MP40w Gen 2 pumps. Bottom line they're both great pumps and both companies have great customer service.

What do you want pumps with a more concentrated flow pattern that is aim able or pumps with a broad gentler flow and great undertow?

If I went with just one it would be MP40 for the undertow and broad flow.

No the spare wet side is not a sign of failure. It allows you to swap a wet side for cleaning and maintenance while still having a functional pump at fraction of the price of owning a spare pump.

+1 one here. I own both the 6105 with 7096 and MP40. The quality and amount of the flow of 6105 does not come close to the mp40. Nothing beats the reefcrest mode. However, The MP40 is much more delicate and you can count on sending the MP40 back for service. The effective cost of the MP40 is going to be higher assuming that the flow rates are the same.

ECFENCING · 02/11/2010, 01:41 PM

I guess if you can stand the noise or do not mind that your pump may potentially have more problems than the tunzes then go with ecotech....

Both are good pumps. Obviously the tunze is much more quiet but you can get some nice patterns from the tunze as well. I haven't experimented as much with the 7096 and I would disagree about the quality of flow being better from ecotech. You can get a broad flow pattern by replacing the 6105 covers with 6205 covers and alternating flow with the controller settings.

The look of a vortech IMO without wires is nicer than a tunze in tank but when your tank is all grown out you won't notice and I think that's what we all aim for.

I would go on the tunze forums...There are nice tanks with vortechs and tunzes..what matters is consistent water quality proper lighting and good flow and you can't go wrong with either one. It's a matter of personal preference.

I like the tunzes over vortech for:

(1) Reliability
(2) Quiet operation
(3) Ability to direct or point the flow
(4) You can experiment with different settings on the 7096. It's much more customizable than the vortech (But again look at the tunze forums. I don't have as much experience with the 7096)

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02/08/2010, 06:32 PM	#1
Montreal Ray Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 428	Vortech MP40 or Tunze 6105 Pump + 7091 Single Controller I know Vortech is all the rage and it's sexy with it's wet/dry application. However, what is a better and more reliable set-up? I've been reading allot about the Vortechs being sent in for repairs, while you never hear that about the Tunze Turbelle. I've see a lot of Vortech vids and they look sweet! Both Vortech and Tunze 7091 have many wave choices and both use a single pump. Vortech MP40 $499 (i'm in Canada) 3200 GPH Sexy wet/dry Tunze 6105 Pump + 7091 Single Controller $430 3434 GPH Takes up more room Lets here your opinions please

02/08/2010, 07:46 PM	#2
Tajjo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,039	I went with the tunze because of the same reasons. I thought if they sell the wet side it's obviously meant to break down here and there. __________________ Expect the worst and hope for the best! Current Tank Info: 75 gal display, 40 breeder sump. 1 Tunze 6105, 1 Maxi Jet mod, octopuss nw 200, 618 GEO calcium reactor, 2 250w mh icecap pendant with icecap ballast, pheonix bulbs, with 4 t5 VHO actinic

02/08/2010, 07:52 PM	#3
herozero Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 717	Re: Vortech MP40 or Tunze 6105 Pump + 7091 Single Controller I would not say the wet/dry is sexy, it is a noticable difference in the tank. However, they are not silent. And while they cannot be directed like a tunze, they have a very broad flow. There are MANY threads you can search thru on these forums discussing the ups and downs.

02/08/2010, 08:02 PM	#5
Tajjo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,039	I love my tunze I'm getting another __________________ Expect the worst and hope for the best! Current Tank Info: 75 gal display, 40 breeder sump. 1 Tunze 6105, 1 Maxi Jet mod, octopuss nw 200, 618 GEO calcium reactor, 2 250w mh icecap pendant with icecap ballast, pheonix bulbs, with 4 t5 VHO actinic

02/08/2010, 08:28 PM	#6
jhc Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: citizen of the world Posts: 48	Oceanic Corals in BC has them on sale for $440CAD. I've dealt with Oceanic corals for livestock and they are a good dependable store. nice frags. http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...&productId=326

02/08/2010, 09:26 PM	#8
jhc Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: citizen of the world Posts: 48	I would email oceanic corals first to see if the sale is still on. They are in a mad scramble to open up a retail store so they haven't been updating their site as much. You can go on canreef as well since they have a forum there.

02/09/2010, 12:09 AM	#9
shandy_say Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 625	Vortech all the way! I use just one in my 70gal and all my sps are absolutely loving it!

02/09/2010, 09:46 AM	#10
drparker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 2,652	I've got both Tunze 6055s with a 7095 controller and MP40w Gen 2 pumps. Bottom line they're both great pumps and both companies have great customer service. What do you want pumps with a more concentrated flow pattern that is aim able or pumps with a broad gentler flow and great undertow? If I went with just one it would be MP40 for the undertow and broad flow. No the spare wet side is not a sign of failure. It allows you to swap a wet side for cleaning and maintenance while still having a functional pump at fraction of the price of owning a spare pump.

02/11/2010, 01:41 PM	#12
ECFENCING Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 608	I guess if you can stand the noise or do not mind that your pump may potentially have more problems than the tunzes then go with ecotech.... Both are good pumps. Obviously the tunze is much more quiet but you can get some nice patterns from the tunze as well. I haven't experimented as much with the 7096 and I would disagree about the quality of flow being better from ecotech. You can get a broad flow pattern by replacing the 6105 covers with 6205 covers and alternating flow with the controller settings. The look of a vortech IMO without wires is nicer than a tunze in tank but when your tank is all grown out you won't notice and I think that's what we all aim for. I would go on the tunze forums...There are nice tanks with vortechs and tunzes..what matters is consistent water quality proper lighting and good flow and you can't go wrong with either one. It's a matter of personal preference. I like the tunzes over vortech for: (1) Reliability (2) Quiet operation (3) Ability to direct or point the flow (4) You can experiment with different settings on the 7096. It's much more customizable than the vortech (But again look at the tunze forums. I don't have as much experience with the 7096)